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Title: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Hammers on September 05, 2011, 07:43:46 AM
If you're like me, a lazy bum with no particular concerns about the environment, may I suggest the Terracotta effect spray way of creating rust effects?

(http://www.clasohlson.se/Archive/Images/Products/Hi/34-4417_1.jpg)

This product is used to spray various gardening items for a terracotta effect. The paint, beside the iron oxide colour, has a slightly grainy texture which makes it very suitable as rust. In Sweden it can be found  at Clas Ohlsson, I am sure there are equivalents in your country to.

I apply this over a black base coat and top off with a few moderate spurts of a another can of Terracotta spray containing a redder nuance. This method is particularly suitable for large items or if you want to undercoat a whole object in rust, like when you employ the  Maskol peel-off method (described in other  threads).

I am currently using this method for a tugboat, which paining I will be posting about shortly. Previous to that  I have  used  it for a LPL armoured school bus.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28388.0;attach=3522;image)

Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Argonor on September 05, 2011, 08:01:58 AM
Hmmm.. schoolgirls in bowlers and miniskirts... with guns...  :)

Actually, spraypaints with some texture can be used for many purposes, I think. If a white one was available, it would be good for snow/frost effects on terrain/structures.
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 05, 2011, 08:23:37 AM
You know, when I read this I thought another calamity had befallen your tug  lol

Glad to see this isn't the case  :)

Great little tip there and I think we have Clas Ohlsson shop over here now (they seem to have taken the place of Woolworths, at least in Kingston anyway).

cheers

James
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Argonor on September 05, 2011, 08:25:56 AM
First IKEA, then Clas Ohlsson. The Swedes are taking over the world....  :o
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: dijit on September 05, 2011, 10:01:56 AM
I've used a red/brown Hammerite (a little ironic maybe?) metal primer for exactly the same effect. If you base the model in the spray then spray it with hairspray add salt to the places you want rust then paint the final layer of paint. Once it's dry take a toothbrush and brush off the salt you get a truly fantastic rust effect. It leaves the paint a little bubbled around the rust and you get a great random rust effect showing through under the final paint layer.
Unfortunately I don't have any photos of anything I've done with it to show it off. But Fichtenfoo has a great tutorial here:
http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/rusty-texture/ (http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/rusty-texture/)
To see the effect properly:
(http://www.fichtenfoo.com/images/prog-scopedog/scopedog-29.jpg)
http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/desert-scopedog/ (http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/desert-scopedog/)
Duncan
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Westfalia Chris on September 05, 2011, 10:59:41 AM
First IKEA, then Clas Ohlsson. The Swedes are taking over the world....  :o

I, for one, welcome our new nordic Overlords and -ladies.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Restricted%20Access/810_ABBA.jpg)

lol

But as for topic, that does look very effective, if a bit unwieldy if you only want to do spots - but if you have a whole car rusting in a lot or something, it will certainly produce a more even effect than my preferred method of rust-tone acrylic and quartz sand. Have to try it when I get back to working on my Fallout stuff.
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Hammers on September 05, 2011, 11:55:09 AM
Great little tip there and I think we have Clas Ohlsson shop over here now (they seem to have taken the place of Woolworths, at least in Kingston anyway).

So I've heard. It's not a bad thing you know, they supply me with a lot of stuff for my hobby needs.
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Hammers on September 05, 2011, 11:57:02 AM
I've used a red/brown Hammerite (a little ironic maybe?) metal primer for exactly the same effect. If you base the model in the spray then spray it with hairspray add salt to the places you want rust then paint the final layer of paint. Once it's dry take a toothbrush and brush off the salt you get a truly fantastic rust effect. It leaves the paint a little bubbled around the rust and you get a great random rust effect showing through under the final paint layer.
Unfortunately I don't have any photos of anything I've done with it to show it off. But Fichtenfoo has a great tutorial here:
http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/rusty-texture/ (http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/rusty-texture/)
To see the effect properly:
(http://www.fichtenfoo.com/images/prog-scopedog/scopedog-29.jpg)
http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/desert-scopedog/ (http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/desert-scopedog/)
Duncan

That's the other way of doing it. There has been at least a couple of threads about both the Maskol and hairspray/salt methods.
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 05, 2011, 12:34:10 PM
So I've heard. It's not a bad thing you know, they supply me with a lot of stuff for my hobby needs.

Never been in yet but I think that will change at the weekend  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Argonor on September 05, 2011, 12:53:56 PM
I had forgotten those legs...  ::)

I shall have to see if I can find some of that stuff here in my little duck-pond. Should come in handy for both pulp (remote farm machinery/stills and the likes), and post apocalyptic (nearly everything).

I take it, that the second, more red-ish colour could be stippled/stricken on with a fairly large old brush, too?
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Hammers on September 05, 2011, 01:14:53 PM

I take it, that the second, more red-ish colour could be stippled/stricken on with a fairly large old brush, too?

Surely they can. Some people like to top off their rust-jobs with a smidgen of cadmium orange to. Don't think you'll find that in a can.
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Col.Stone on September 05, 2011, 01:17:44 PM
Hammers, Biltema has oxide red aswell, i think that one works rather nicely :)
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Marine0846 on September 06, 2011, 03:19:30 PM
Thanks for the great tip.
Will have to look for something like it here in the U.S.

Westfalia Chris, did you paint those four figures in the photo?
They look so lifelike.  lol
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: dijit on September 06, 2011, 05:50:57 PM
Thanks for the great tip.
Will have to look for something like it here in the U.S.

Westfalia Chris, did you paint those four figures in the photo?
They look so lifelike.  lol
Yeah they sort of remind me of someone too, can't quite place them though  ;)
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Ramshackle_Curtis on September 06, 2011, 06:02:52 PM
I saw a guy doing the do with jam instead of hairspray. Worked well! I think the jam holds the salt on easier....
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Henrix on September 06, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
They look so lifelike.  lol

Aw, come on... the poses are awful, and the proportions! Look at the guy to the left!  :D
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: Thunderchicken on September 07, 2011, 02:34:02 PM
Great little tip there and I think we have Clas Ohlsson shop over here now (they seem to have taken the place of Woolworths, at least in Kingston anyway).

Blimey! We got a Poundland. Then again Kingston is posh.

Thanks for the tip Hammers, will look out for this stuff.
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 07, 2011, 04:35:24 PM
Then again Kingston is posh.

I know  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: janner on September 08, 2011, 08:57:04 AM
I know  ;D

cheers

James

Posh! Compared to White City, maybe.  lol lol lol

We are talking about the same Kingston that's just across the park from Richmond right?
Title: Re: Rust, lots of it...
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 08, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
Posh! Compared to White City, maybe.  lol lol lol

We are talking about the same Kingston that's just across the park from Richmond right?

Shut it you  ;D

cheers

James