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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: DowVooVoo on 18 September 2011, 12:53:11 PM
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Was talking to some buds and they said that the germans ,late war put the panther 2 turret on panzer4 hull? If true does anyone have pics? I thought the turret ring was smaller on the mk4 then the panther. Thanks for any help.
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Never went beyond the planning stage as the Panther 2 (which was to have a narrower turret than the production Panther) never made it beyond the prototype stage (there's one on display in the US).
Could find a drawing if that helps....
(http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/pz4_pz5.jpg)
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And to mix it up a bit further there was a unit that had a Panther with a P1V turret :D
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Thanks much!
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The remains of the Panther 2 turret are at Bovington.
Was outside for years, till someone pointed out that the rusty lump of metal by the car park was in fact a Panther 2 turret...
The design on the Panzer IV chassis was flawed, the uell couldnt take the weight and the gun barrels weight put immense strain on the front running gear.
I still built one in 20mm though...
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Yup, and here it is (on a new base):
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20WW2/Berlin/PzIVNeufull.jpg)
Might rebase it again at a later date.
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The remains of the Panther 2 turret are at Bovington.
Was outside for years, till someone pointed out that the rusty lump of metal by the car park was in fact a Panther 2 turret...
The design on the Panzer IV chassis was flawed, the uell couldnt take the weight and the gun barrels weight put immense strain on the front running gear.
I still built one in 20mm though...
That was me actually :D
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Very interesting, thank you all.
Helen
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thats not a Panther 2 turret thats a Panther F turret also called schmalturn designed in 1944 the Panther 2 in 1942 2 really different beasts, as far as I know there was no new turret designed for the Panther 2.
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There was a new turret designed for the Panther 2 that was very similar to the F but significantly better in armour protection.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/barryslemmings/4787775812/
The visual difference with an F turret is hardly noticable on a model.
The original statement of the posters mates that a Panther II turret was mated with a Panzer IV is wrong though.
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For those who are confused by the Panther familly tree :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank#Panther_II
Yes I know its Wikipedia, but it saves me typing half a page and its not bad actually ;)
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The remains of the Panther 2 turret are at Bovington.
Was outside for years, till someone pointed out that the rusty lump of metal by the car park was in fact a Panther 2 turret...
The design on the Panzer IV chassis was flawed, the uell couldnt take the weight and the gun barrels weight put immense strain on the front running gear.
I still built one in 20mm though...
It wasn't in the car park, it was in the scrap pile in the workshops.
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When I last saw it, it was beside the main car park. The corner opposite the old entrance.
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When I last saw it, it was beside the main car park. The corner opposite the old entrance.
it was indeed by the old carpark... had been a sodding range target for years.... oh if only they knew :'(
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Not when it was found