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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Bezzo on September 24, 2011, 05:32:57 PM
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Anyone in UK wishing to watch "Zulu Dawn" on Channel 5 should know it starts at 6.00pm (about 27 minutes time).
Okay it is not "Zulu" but it is not that bad.
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A pity about Robert Mitchum, though............ :D
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Okay it is not "Zulu" but it is not that bad.
I think it's better than Zulu (!).
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A pity about Robert Mitchum, though............ :D
What about him?
I think it's better than Zulu (!).
I like it too. Good film. I'm not sure which I like better. Depends on what kind of film I'm in the mood for. The atmosphere of the two is quite different.
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Great film!
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I think it's better than Zulu (!).
Jimbibbly said exactly the same thing yesterday...
I think, for me, the difference is, I've only seen Zulu Dawn once, at the cinema, when it came out. Whereas Zulu, I've only seen - oooh - 200 - 300 times? ;)
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I did :D
cheers
James
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Channel 5 is the blacked out channel for HBO on the old non-digital channels.
:)
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D'oh! Robert Mitchum............ Meant Burt Lancaster.......... :D
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Burt Lancaster
Yeah, shame that ::)
cheers
James
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Sawing his head off...
>:D
cheers
James
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It would be the epitome of stupidity considering that Durnford had the full quota of two arms right up to his death, and as far as I know still has two to this day, unless worms have eaten them.
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Oh! That explains why Kirk Douglas, the other half of the double act, was not in it. :o
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Method acting eh? ;D
cheers
James
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Plynkes, you need to tell Empress, their Durnford only has one arm:
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/Shaz4/DURNFORD.jpg)
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I believe the figure shows Durnford correctly with his hand tucked into his patrol jacket.
His arm was disabled, not missing, a combination of a fall from his horse and an Assegai thrust I believe to the elbow or the other way around.
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That sleeve looks awfully empty and flat to me. :o
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As Nick says, he lost the use of his left arm at Bushman's Pass, but as far as I am aware he did not lose the arm itself.
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That sleeve looks awfully empty and flat to me. :o
You are right, especially on the mounted one, the dismount less so.
Although they have got his droopy moustache spot on, which I believe is far more important to represent. Something Burt failed to do in the film along with his terrible Irish accent lol
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Yes, I took a look at Dave Bickley's painted one, there does not appear to be any depth in the lower sleeve or a corresponding bulge in the jacket.....
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/Shaz4/war/6c5e7af3aaebb8daf39106115e695442.jpg)
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As Nick says, he lost the use of his left arm at Bushman's Pass, but as far as I am aware he did not lose the arm itself.
Absolutely, he was reported at Isandlwana by some of his Edendale troopers who escaped to have assisted those whose carbines had jammed. He would stick the carbine between his disabled arm and body and extract the Jammed cartridge with his hunting knife in his right hand.
I believe the damage was done at the Bushmans pass fight. I have heard reference to the arm being"withered" years later.
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Hollywood misrepesents history again..............
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Hollywood misrepesents history again..............
Not really, as Burt did have two arms, and he quite clearly has one of them tucked in his jacket for the entire film. This time the blame belongs to Bezzo and Empress, not Hollywood. :D
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He was still shit in the role though ;D
cheers
James
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No one is slagging you off, Bezzo. I cannot see where I slagged you off. It was a joke, merely referencing your own joke earlier about Burt cutting his arm off for the role. Please do not turn this into another drama, as there was no ill intent here, merely friendly banter.
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If anybody should feel slagged off I think it's Burt Lancaster lol
Could have been worse, could have been Burt Reynolds :D
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The Osprey picture, although captioned as his arm, disabled years before, is tucked into his jacket, but the picture shows a thin sleeve. I wonder if his arm had lost muscle through lack of use and was, therefore, atrophied. I sense a Master's Degree thesis here............. ???
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Well after this long debating on Burt 's arms , has somebody there seen the film? lol
Piero
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Nah, got it on DVD... good shout on Bezzo's part though.
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Hey Guys,
Lets go and dig him up.
That will settle the arguement. :D
Always wanted to go to South Africa.
Who's paying? lol
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Durnford did indeed have both his arms although he had lost the use of one of them, and so tucked it into the front of his tunic. Our figure was sculpted to show this. :P Not much more I can say on the subject really ;)
As for the film I personally do not think that the two films can be compared. Both are good for different reasons although if I am honest I prefer Zulu. Worth noting is that the Boer wagon that gets turned over in Zulu was an original as were the cartridge boxes that are being opened in Zulu Dawn. Evidently the boxes were borrowed from a collection and trashed in good Hollywood style. :o
Paul
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But were the Martini Henry carbines used by the 24th in a couple of scenes (in Zulu Dawn) original or was the ' bolt action' rifle used by one heroic extra in the final battle scene of Zulu, original?
It could have been worse - Burt could have used Colin 'Feckin' Farrel's Oirish accent......but then again both of Burt parents were of Irish descent.
It was just Hollywood's way of showing that AWD was Irish born however he lived in Germany for some years.......
;)
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STOP picking on good old Burt. As it happens I will be on the next series of Mastermind, answering questions on the Zulu War. I will let you know when its on. THE CID
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STOP picking on good old Burt. As it happens I will be on the next series of Mastermind, answering questions on the Zulu War. I will let you know when its on. THE CID
Good luck - don't let us know your total before hand for suspense.
First time I've seen Zulu Dawn (at 40+ that's shame on me!) and rather enjoyed it!