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Miniatures Adventure => Pulp => Topic started by: Johnnytodd on 05 October 2011, 12:22:45 AM
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As a vehicle for my Pulp Sailors I've decided on a subchaser model. Following a set of relatively simple plans I've adjusted the scale to 1/56th. The finished boat should be just under 24" long. I prefer to work in wood so I've started the basic hull out of thin sheets of hobby plywood:
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc1.jpg)
Here are the plans:
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/Sub_Chaser.jpg)
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I shall enjoy watching this come together!
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Ambitious!! Good luck to you sir!
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Looks interesting - keep us posted with progress.
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A fine looking project 8)
You can't beat a full set of drawings to build from :)
cheers
James
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If anybody is interested in building this boat, send me a PM with your email address and I'll forward a copy of the plans. The plans are fairly straightforward but are meant for a motorized model. Mine will be a simple waterline platform. Check out this website for inspiration: http://www.subchaser.org/showcase (http://www.subchaser.org/showcase)
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Would be keen to give this project a go. How did you do the calculations for converting the plans to 1/56 scale?
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To convert this (or any) plans into the scale of your choice you just need to know the the size of the actual object. In this case the subchaser was 110' long, so I first convert that into inches (or cm) = 1320"; then I divide by my scale (56) = 23.57 (inches). If you have a adobe photoshop you can enlarge or reduce any line drawing in this manner. I've used this technique to build planes, tanks and boats
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After some gentle persuasion I finally got the hull just right. Next is to finish the contour and build up the deck:
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc2.jpg)
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Now adding detail to the deck:
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc3.jpg)
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Looking good!! The bow in the plans looks smooth, but I see you've put part of the keel in, are you planning on smoothing it down?
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Been a busy week so not as much progress as I hoped for. I'm not entirely satisfied with the plan I'm using... some construction details are too vague with many historical inaccuracies. The original boats had a keel so I've added that to my model for a more realistic hull and also to add support. Here is today's photo:
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc1015.jpg)
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A bit more progress. Maybe this topic should move to WIP category? (http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc1020.jpg)
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That's looking very nice indeed 8) :-*
cheers
James
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Fantastic - that is going to be a ship to be proud of!
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That is looking incredible - not just a gaming piece but a genuine model!
Can't wait to see more progress.
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Well done! She's going to be a cracker!! 8)
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looking really good :-*
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Will the captain of this beauty be a guy who rolls two steel ball bearings in his right hand? ;)
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I'm amazed at not just the quality, but the speed at which you've put it together! With that kind of speed, you could build a few Liberty ships while you're at it.
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Evilcartoonist - Speed is not my goal but thanks for the compliment. Glue dries overnight so I build a little every day - roughly an hour or two. Now deciding how to abreviate certain details rather than get bogged down in making it exact. Every model or plan I've looked at is different, so I'm trying to build a boat in keeping with the pulp wargaming spirit & as historically accurate as time permits.
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:o :o :o
Wow, this is a great thread.
Watching with anticipation!
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Just about ready for paint. It took a while to figure out how to build the vents, then fell back on trusty old green stuff (black). Will string up the antenae and railing wire after paint.
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc1025a.jpg)
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc1025b.jpg)
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:o
First of all ... that is one stunning model, that -imho- should be put on a display, not a gaming table where things might come off / break off. It would be a shame to see damage done to that beauty.
But I have a question. Where's the funnel? ??? ... Forgive me my display of total ignorance concerning naval things, I was but a grunt in a ground pounder battalion.
von der Tann
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Von der Tann,
I'm more of a modeller than a wargamer so this model won't see too much hard use ;)
The small size of subchasers at 110' make them more "BOAT" and less "SHIP" and they ran on gasoline rather than steam - so no stack/funnel; exhaust was vented from a pipe protuding from the rear deck house over the engine room.
John
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John
Love it!
RB
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Von der Tann,
I'm more of a modeller than a wargamer so this model won't see too much hard use ;)
The small size of subchasers at 110' make them more "BOAT" and less "SHIP" and they ran on gasoline rather than steam - so no stack/funnel; exhaust was vented from a pipe protuding from the rear deck house over the engine room.
John
Thanks alot John!
von der Tann
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Wow! Beautiful work, sir! :-*
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Looks great, makes me want to build another ship.
:)
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Fantastic work John !! :-* :-* :o
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That is beautiful :-* :-* Here is a link that may interest you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_Agar
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SC125 is off on her maiden voyage, ready to battle the enemies of democracy.
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc41.jpg)
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc42.jpg)
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc43.jpg)
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc44.jpg)
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I love the llok, that's a great work! Congrats!
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Stunning piece of work.
Excellent work that man.
OG.
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Loved the work up but the finished article is incredible!! :o
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An absolutely fantastic model. You should be proud of it.
Thank you for sharing both the finished model and the work-in-progress.
Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
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Wow, that is gorgeous......... :o
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JT, now that is grrrrrrreat :o
Superb build, looks really playable. Congratulations!!!
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As I already mentioned during wip ... I really like this.
Stunning - excellent - fantastic work!
von der Tann
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:-*FANTASTIC :-*
Excellent piece of work.
Paul
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That's just stunning.
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VERY Nice!
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Ups, awesome......amazing!!!!!! :-* :-* :-* :'(
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Fantastic work 8)
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Brilliant! Fantastic! Its been a treat watching this ship evolve over the weeks.
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Thanks everybody for the kind words. I'm already looking ahead to the next project. Its another addition to my 1/56th scale navy:
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/US-OS2U3.jpg)
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That really is very good. Who make all those nice sailor models? (everybody loves a sailor ;) )
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The sailors are all from Pulp with the exception of the officer who is from Cannonfodder
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That's a corker :-* :-*
The sailors set it off nicely :)
cheers
James
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Fantastic work. Far beyond my abilities (and patience).
Well done.
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That's a fan-tastic boat!! Great finish! You now just need a sub for it to chase.
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Great projects.
I wanted to ask;
"What scale will you model the Kingfisher?"
Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
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That is one really nice build. I absolutely love it. Great modelling and great color choice. A+.
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That ship is........
.....Sheer, Bloody , Brilliant!
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Wow! Superb work, fantastic craftsmanship, and a stunning result. Respect! :-*
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Have you seen this link;
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/57k1.htm
Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
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Beautiful work, really elegant! :-*
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Tony,
Thanks for the links I hadn't seen those. They will certainly be of use on my next project. I prefer to build all of my models in the oddball scale of 1/56
John
Have you seen this link;
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/57k1.htm
Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
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Wonderful work John, a true masterpiece of modelling.
Cheers,
Helen
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Hi John Thank you for the link and the kind comments. I'll keep checking back for progress updates.
Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
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Lovely model - great work!
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Spot on, tremendous model. How about a sub for it to chase?
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I would love to build the ultimate pulp submarine = the Japanese I-400 sub/aircraft carrier, but in 1/56th scale it would be over 2 meters long.
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Great work, and thanks for teaching us how to do it, too!
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Unbelieveably good and built in record time.
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I would love to build the ultimate pulp submarine = the Japanese I-400 sub/aircraft carrier, but in 1/56th scale it would be over 2 meters long.
Don't let the size stop you :D
cheers
James
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I'm speachless. I am without speach.
That is some great modeling. I only wish I hade the skills for that kind of modelling.
Cheers.
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(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/US-OS2U3.jpg)
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Well I've managed to shatter a bone in my finger and I'm off work for a week. To pass the time I started the next project for my pulp navy. Head over to the workbench if you want to follow the progress of this kingfisher plane.
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I am agog with jealousy. :o
If your output continues at this voracious pace of quantity and quality, you will have an air/sea fleet in no time.
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Glad your injury hasn't impeded your dexterity to the point that you can't work on models! :D
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I would love to build the ultimate pulp submarine = the Japanese I-400 sub/aircraft carrier, but in 1/56th scale it would be over 2 meters long.
I've got one on a slow boil, it will probably be about one metre long though.
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Don't let the size stop you :D
cheers
James
Try a WW2 Kriegsmarine Type IIA - a mere 80cm long! lol
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beautiful :)
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Where did the images go?
I was hoping to look at this to get inspired to design my own.
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Where did the images go?
I was hoping to look at this to get inspired to design my own.
The message indicates that he deleted or moved the photo to a different folder. You might try PM'ing him to see if he still has that pic.
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Who knew there was still interest 2 years later! Here are the photos:
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc41_zpsca458a97.jpg)
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/pulpnavy1_zpsd5112f02.jpg)
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc43_zpsf4d73b71.jpg)
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc42_zpsf57fc7a1.jpg)
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(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc1025a_zps75e5a721.jpg)
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/sc1025b_zpsdc7b5174.jpg)
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Whoops, those last two pics don't seem to be working.
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Whoops, those last two pics don't seem to be working.
I think its fixed now
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Splendid! I really love this and it leaves me speechless. I need a navy too - too sad I cannot even hope to build something like this.
A W S O M E !!!
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Who knew... after just two years...??? Are you kidding? This is fantastic and inspiring! Wonderful job!
By the way, are these Bob Murch's sailors? And how did you make the markings? Decal? Or are your painting skills as good as your building skills...? :)
And, to be honest, I had the photos on my cell phone and would consult them from time to time, but I switched cell phones (every 2 years we get a discount and renew our contract with them) and no longer have some of those images.
Now, I'm out of cash (holidays) and it's a good time to doodle and plan projects for when the bank account refreshes....
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How long is it and how wide, by the way? Do you have some measurements for the different structures on it? Metric, English, or measured in mini-base-diameters... :)
I have a very difficult time getting the proportions right on boats. I figure at least 1 base width on the main deck, but what about the superstructure built up?
Thanks heaps!
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Erik B,
The Sailors, gun and some deck accessories are from Murch, with the exception of the Lt. who is from Cannonfodder. The hull numbers and flag were hand done - I used a simple plastic stencil to do the numbers. The size is 58cm long x 10cm wide. I think the plans I used were discussed earlier in the thread. I haven't built anything since the PT boat earlier this year and I'm really feeling the itch to do another ship...
John
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Very, very smart! :-*
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Sir, this post is awesome i dont have words for it!!! :-* :-* :-*
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Ah, I found the website with the plans! I get it, now. I think I could make something like that, not so well as you, but I could give it a go.
How did you do the hull? Plank-on frame? Solid block?
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Erik B, PM me if you want and I can talk you through the whole process. If I recall, the hull is all plywood with a 3/16"-1/4" thick base for rigidity then a carved solid wood bow and stern, then ribbed framework to support an 1/16" deck, then very thin aircraft plywood for the sides of the hull. I built it the same way as the PT boat:
(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u639/johnnytodd46/001_zpsc9969bd6.jpg)
This method is probably better suited for R/C modeling than wargaming. Bending the plywood is a real pain - save some time & just go with a solid wood hull...
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Ah, cool. I can do this technique, so long as I get to paint it over instead of leaving "beautiful" natural wood.... Not so beautiful when I made it.
Carving is hard. I never get the shape right or even no matter what I do. Maybe, with some proper templates to use for fitting, I might be able to get it right. Lord knows, I've tried carving several things, including a race car that turned out like... well... not symmetrical, to say the least.
Why plywood instead of balsa, by the way?
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I prefer plywood and basswood for their strength vs. weight - balsa is just too soft and flimsy is this size. You could also use sheet styrene.