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Title: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: joroas on 12 October 2011, 12:03:55 PM
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PRE-ORDER CONDOTTIERE DOGS OF WAR
by Frank Chadwick
Edited by Jake Thornton
Our brand new rule book for re-fighting the battles from the age of the Condottieri brings all the richness and atmosphere of the Renaissance to life on the tabletop.
Unlike many periods of history, the forces of the Condottieri consisted largely of mercenary companies fighting for the highest bidder and the promise of plunder. It was a colourful, turbulent, and dramatic time where treachery, skulduggery and intrigue were the order of the day!
 As well as rules, campaigns and painting-guides, this book contains articles that set the scene, and is lavishly illustrated with stunning full colour photography of lots of painted models!
160 pages A4 Hardback - highly illustrated, full colour throughout.
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Aaron on 12 October 2011, 12:06:27 PM
Interesting period, but Chadwick's rules sometimes leave something to be desired IMO.
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: joroas on 12 October 2011, 12:07:48 PM
http://wargamesfoundry.com/kevimages/newsletters/newsletter114.htm?utm_source=Foundry+Miniatures+Ltd+List&utm_campaign=a58fcc7ae6-Pre_Order_Condottiere10_11_2011&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Dave Knight on 12 October 2011, 12:21:57 PM
Anyone seen a price as yet?
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: joroas on 12 October 2011, 12:31:22 PM
£25 on the site Post Free
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Arlequín on 12 October 2011, 12:36:12 PM
Is it just me or do the figures appear a bit 'wooden' looking. I haven't bought Foundry in a while, but I'm used to better.  :?
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: joroas on 12 October 2011, 12:39:08 PM
There is a general feeling that they are replacing the Perrys' figures, on which they pay royalties, with other ranges that are, in many cases, inferior to older models.
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Mako on 13 October 2011, 12:06:52 AM
A shame there isn't any info about these, other than the title and author's name.
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: panzagl on 13 October 2011, 01:13:57 AM
From TMP, the US Amazon site has a pretty extensive 'look inside':

http://www.amazon.com/CONDOTTIERE-Renaissance-Mercenary-Warfare-Campaigns/dp/1901543218/

My decision will be made when Amazon announces their price.

Rich
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Galloping Major on 13 October 2011, 04:29:59 PM
There is a general feeling that they are replacing the Perrys' figures, on which they pay royalties, with other ranges that are, in many cases, inferior to older models.

You may say that, I couldn't possibly comment  ;) lol
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Galloping Major on 16 October 2011, 12:37:57 PM
OK my comment seems to have blocked this one ........  :'(

To return to the original subject:

I had the Condottiere rule,s in draft form, to look at about 10 years back. I thought they were potentially great fun, and ideal for campaign games between several players. The main premise was that the player represents a mercenary captain with a small number of units chosen from various national types of the time, who would hire himself out to one of the City States. The greater your success in the campaigning "year", the more new troops you could hire; bad fortunes of course had the reverse effect.
Frank's rules as they were when I saw them really captured the feel of the period - for me at least.

Of course, I have no way of knowing how much they have been changed whilst being "sat upon".  ;)


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Arlequín on 18 October 2011, 12:40:15 AM
I had the Condottiere rule,s in draft form, to look at about 10 years back. I thought they were potentially great fun, and ideal for campaign games between several players. The main premise was that the player represents a mercenary captain with a small number of units chosen from various national types of the time, who would hire himself out to one of the City States. The greater your success in the campaigning "year", the more new troops you could hire; bad fortunes of course had the reverse effect.
Frank's rules as they were when I saw them really captured the feel of the period - for me at least.

Of course, I have no way of knowing how much they have been changed whilst being "sat upon".  ;)

www.gallopingmajorwargames.com

That makes them sound like a very interesting rule set from my point of view, so I'll be watching out for reviews from people.  :)

Your first quoted comment seemed to be concerning the figures though...  :? 
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Galloping Major on 20 October 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Your first quoted comment seemed to be concerning the figures though...  :? 

That's right - you may not recognise the much quoted phrase:

"You may say that, I couldn't possibly comment"

It's a British phrase from a vintage "political" thriller meaning:
That's spot on but I'm not going to commit myself by saying so  ;)

www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Arlequín on 20 October 2011, 10:30:28 PM
Ah I see...  ::)

 ;)

Anyway they are out... £25 post free from Foundry, £21.25 post free from Amazon.

I'm tempted... wonder how long I can hold out?  lol
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Sir Barnaby Hammond-Rye on 23 June 2012, 11:54:05 AM
So...did anyone give the rules a try?

Interesting mechanisms based on the amazon preview and a glance at the reference card.

I guess the panicked troops all end up in a mob that has to be rallied?

It's funny, I was actually thinking about doing something very similar (that is, having troops run away in dribs and drabs) in a fantasy set of rules but discarded it as perhaps too cumbersome. I wonder...?
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Malatesta on 23 June 2012, 03:48:13 PM
So...did anyone give the rules a try?

There has been a discussion about these rules on The Miniatures Page. Frank Chadwick recently chimed in. It may be of interest:

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=250148
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Dave Knight on 23 June 2012, 04:04:09 PM
I bought a copy but have not had a game as yet so would also be interested in any comments
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Sir Barnaby Hammond-Rye on 23 June 2012, 05:20:34 PM
Thanks for the link.

I seems there are more things that I think I'll like in the rule than not, so I might pick up a copy. As I always tinker with rules away, I don't have any problems with small omissions.
Title: Re: Foundry Condottiere rules
Post by: Malatesta on 23 June 2012, 05:53:01 PM
Just don't have pistol armed reiters in your Italian Wars armies!  ;)