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Miniatures Adventure => Old West => Topic started by: Jim French on 19 October 2011, 09:07:59 PM
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I have four in mind: My Darling Clementine [totally unhistorical]
Gunfight at the OK Corral [also not very historical]
Wyatt Earp better than the other two
Tombstone my personal favorite.
I am sure there others too, but I don't know them.
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I also seem to remember William Hartnell in a Dr Who episode....
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William Hartnell WAS the first Doctor Who.......... :D
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Hour of the Gun with James Gardner and Jason Robards is another.
I can't remember how historical the gunfight is. Haven't seen it for years. I'm not in it so much for the history, though. That isn't what sticks in my mind. The characters and the story are what make these films. Victor Mature, Jason Robards, Val Kilmer and Dennis Quaid were all brilliant Doc Hollidays each in their own ways. Can't say I really care for Kirk Douglas in the roll, though.
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....and don't forget the Star Trek version...............
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Have to go with Tombstone.
If it's not historical, that the way it should be.
Remember someone, somewhere said something like this,
If you have to print the facts or print the legend, then print the legend." :D
If anyone knows the correct quote, please correct me.
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Tombstone, cracking acting and a good blokey film :D
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Tombstone, cracking acting and a good blokey film :D
Seconded :)
The Costner version is probably more accurate! lol
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Marine,
It's from The Man who Shot Liberty Valance. "Whne the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
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I do remember the Star Trekversion, Joroas. I also ran into the Hugh O'Brian TV version yesterday.
And there was one from the old Walter Cronkite series You Are There.
But I still like the Tombstoneversion.
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Tombstone without a doubt 8)
I think it's the more accurate version too, it tallies pretty much with the contemporary newspaper reports I've read.
And Holliday actually said "you're a daisy if you do" and "I'm your Huckleberry", brilliant bloke, if you can stand the coughing lol
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Tombstone without a doubt 8)
I think it's the more accurate version too, it tallies pretty much with the contemporary newspaper reports I've read.
And the fascial hair was way better than any of the others :D
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And the fascial hair was way better than any of the others :D
Yep! Not in the Gettysburg league but fine victorian face furniture none the less :D
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Yep! Not in the Gettysburg league but fine victorian face furniture none the less :D
Arhhh, now you see I prefer the elegance of the well tended and waxed moustache and sideburns than the unkempt and unruly full facial beard. ;)
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It takes a real man to wear a privet hedge on his chin lol
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Tombstone
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I think it's the more accurate version too, it tallies pretty much with the contemporary newspaper reports I've read.
It's much, much more accurate than the 40s, 50s and 60s attempts, which are purely imaginary (because if you're setting up the gun fight as the climax of your picture, the real one is rather anti-climactic), but it isn't quite right. Though admittedly it would be almost impossible to reconstruct the fight without a time machine as nobody seems to agree on who shot first, or who exactly shot whom, or which guy was holding the reins of the horse (was it Tom or Frank McLaury?) or whether Tom McLaury was actually armed or not (his gun was found in a hotel a block or more away and no weapon that could be associated with him was found at the scene) and therefore was he an active participant in the fight or merely gunned down in cold blood by the Earps? The partisanship of the witnesses, and contradictions in the statements of supposedly neutral witnesses leave all these questions open.
But anyway, after pleading that he wasn't armed, Ike Clanton fled the scene of the real fight. The movie has him take Johnny Behan's gun and exchange gunfire with the Earps from inside the photo studio. That's made up. He ran and kept running.
Billy Claiborne's presence at the corral is either ignored or played down in the movie. He, like Ike, claimed to be unarmed and fled the scene. Instead, it has a character called Barnes (played by the guy who was the radio DJ in 'Northern Exposure') and another unnamed cowboy you hardly notice scarper out of there. Maybe that other guy is meant to be Claiborne. He is named in the credits, played by an actor called "Wyatt Earp", oddly enough. ???
Tom McLaury staggered across the street after being shot before collapsing wounded, and Frank tried to flee the fight and also crossed the street. Doc Holliday pursued him and shot him down. Neither Tom McLaury nor Billy Clanton died at the scene, both were moved to a nearby house where they died later on that day.
Whether Wyatt had the Buntline Special at the gunfight (or at all, ever) is something I'm not even going to go into, it will give me a headache.
So, apart from all that, it's pretty good. ;) I like most of the other films mentioned, but none of them approach Tombstone's coolness really, do they? It just has a certain something going for it.
Something I never noticed until recently is that the troublesome Faro dealer who Wyatt humiliates early on ("you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?") is none other than Billy Bob Thornton. I guess he wasn't famous at the time, hence the retroactive recognition.
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I think it was Billy Bob Thornton's pie eating twin brother lol
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I think it was Billy Bob Thornton's pie eating twin brother lol
Don't Thornton's make very nice chocolates. There's a pattern forming here ;) lol
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Tombstone for me to , the actors all seem to gel on screen and are believable
Costner at his laconic best!!
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and gringo28s! :`
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Costner isn't in 'Tombstone.' That's taking 'laconic' to a whole new level: not only not saying much, or even not saying anything at all, but not even being there! :) ???
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oops :'(
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i know he wasnt in deadwood.......... lol
aaanyway i enjoy him being in cowboy persona.......
in or not in Tombstone...........bet he wish he had been ;)
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I like his Wyatt Earp picture. It's just not quite as memorable as Tombstone. But it certainly is a good film, with some smashing performances, especially by Dennis Quaid.
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thats the one.........right era wrong film ,i tip my hat to yr knowledge of the period.... :) ;) o_o 8)
now if you want the names of the 108 polish lancers ar Waterloo im yr man!!
seriously i loved the film........Mr quiad was perfect judged in his performance
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Malamute,
Have you ever waxed your mustache? It is a really gunky feeling. I tried it in Nam.