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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Agis on 13 November 2011, 12:39:49 PM
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Somehow I am too stupid to find the corresponding topics...
I got interested in some UFO themed games.
I am sure that there is somewhere a good Shadow tank substitute.
I would also love to have an actually UFO in 1/56 or 15mm (1/100).
Ed Straker's car would also be cool.
Any pointers?
Thanks!
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Matakishi has a substitute for the Shado APC over on his blog and a couple of UFOs. link (http://www.matakishi.com/shado.htm)
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Konami made a UFO model as part of a rage of Gerry Anderson vehicles a few years ago. Here it is in a poor, hastily-taken photo along with an Irregular 15mm caveman, an Airfix 20mm swordsman and a Hasslefree 28mm policeman.
(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz62/SteveFlanaganUK/2011%20-%2011%20-%20Nov/118_1863.jpg)
And here are the same figures with Konami's SHADO Mobile.
(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz62/SteveFlanaganUK/2011%20-%2011%20-%20Nov/118_1865.jpg)
To my eye, the UFO looks right for 20mm and the Mobile for 15mm.
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Revell's Perry Rhodan range for a UFO :
http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/PERRY%20RHODAN%20BLUES%20SHIP%20PAGE.htm (http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/PERRY%20RHODAN%20BLUES%20SHIP%20PAGE.htm)
although it's prbably OOP.
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You can find many UFO Shado mobile diescast from Dinky Toys on Ebay.
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You can find many UFO Shado mobile diescast from Dinky Toys on Ebay.
Are these fitting for 28mm minis?
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The Konami Mobile and UFO will work fine with 15mm scale figs.
For the 25mm/28mm scale figs, I recommend the SHADO diecast vehicles. The diecast Mobiles can be found out of the UK. Not sure about Germany.
They've been out of production for some time, so the prices are climbing on these. eBay is a good source for them, if you can't find them in local toy stores.
Comet Miniatures, also in the UK used to stock some of these, so might have better pricing than eBay.
The UFO and Interceptor diecast sets were going for outrageous sums, last time I checked, e.g. approximately $175 for the set, and that didn't include shipping.
For the 15mm figures, I'm planning on using Ground Zero Games' (GZG) Light Vacc Suit troops for the aliens, and Heavy Vacc Suit troops for the SHADO astronauts. For the Moonbase girls, I'll be using Rebel Minis' Black Widow Mercs (the ones without the coats). Haven't found a good substitute for the male/female SHADO Security troops, but leaning towards the Rebel Minis Infiltrators in helmets, and/or Khurasan Minis' Exterminators (these are really for Colonial Marines from the Aliens movie, but seem to me to be a nice fit for an upgraded, military style reaction force for SHADO, e.g. in heavier kit, with military weapons.
Other suggestions for SHADO Security and other personnel, without helmets, or hats, and in tight-fitting, comfortable clothing would be appreciated. I keep trying to get someone to produce them, with multiple suggestions to various manufacturers, but no luck so far.
Not sure what to use for personnel for 25mm/28mm figs, for SHADO, Moonbase girls, the astronauts, or the aliens. Matakashi's suggestions were okay, but not quite what I'm looking for.
On the plus side, someone recently released a nice Straker-esque figure in 28mm, so there is some hope in appropriate minis eventually.
I'm interested in any 25mm/28mm figure suggestions too, for the above, but the figs (other than the astronauts, interceptor pilots, and aliens) all need to be bareheaded.
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Imai did plastic kits in various scales. I scratched a UFO for a mate some years ago, I used guitar plectrums for the outer disc thingys.
I have a lot of the original Meddings scale drawings for Anderson craft somewhere which I could possibly scan but they may be a bit big.
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SHED made a resin kit for the UFO quite some time ago.
It was expensive, even back then, e.g. probably 15 - 20 years ago. 35.00 GBP, plus shipping (approximately 20% more). It came with clear, plastic, vacc-molded covers for the top and bottom. Pics of the finished models looked quite good, since the overall UFO design is rather simple.
It would work for 25mm/28mm, and appears to be the same scale as the diecast UFO, at about 4" in diameter.
All of the vanes, and the outer disks (for lack of a better name, or guitar pick shaped pieces) were separate, and made of a polyurethane resin. The central section came in two pieces, with an upper and lower central hull section.
I've never put it together, but not sure I want to sell it.
If you can find one of those, that might be another option for you, but I don't think they are still being made. If I recall correctly, SHED went out of business (could be wrong about that though).
Now that I think about it, there was a company in Italy that was making UFO models, but can't recall the name. Perhaps a Google search would work.
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Thanks for the in-depth replies guys!
For the 25mm/28mm scale figs, I recommend the SHADO diecast vehicles. The diecast Mobiles can be found out of the UK. Not sure about Germany.
They've been out of production for some time, so the prices are climbing on these. eBay is a good source for them, if you can't find them in local toy stores.
Comet Miniatures, also in the UK used to stock some of these, so might have better pricing than eBay.
The Comet IMAI SHADO Track seems to be a bit big, or?
6" long...
(http://www.comet-miniatures.com/dbassets/IMA831723n2.jpg)
Is the Dinky One smaller?
Not sure what to use for personnel for 25mm/28mm figs, for SHADO, Moonbase girls, the astronauts, or the aliens. Matakashi's suggestions were okay, but not quite what I'm looking for.
Same for me, they are close enough but somehow just don’t really work for me…
On the plus side, someone recently released a nice Straker-esque figure in 28mm, so there is some hope in appropriate minis eventually.
That is one of the reasons I get excited about UFO again, the Crooked Dice Man From 2000 is spot on for Ed!
(http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/store/images/lg-agentsb.jpg)
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That is one of the reasons I get excited about UFO again, the Crooked Dice Man From 2000 is spot on for Ed!
Some thoughts for 28mm proxies, then.
SHADO personnel: Reaper Chronoscape GUARD agents, Marvel Heroclix SHIELD agents, Artizan/Copplestone "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" henchmen in boiler suits, Crooked Dice henchmen in boiler suits
SHADO astronauts: Crooked Dice Albion Rocket Consortium - moreSpace 1999 than UFO, true, but a similar vibe
Moonbase personnel: Crooked Dice femdroids (I seem to recall that they had plans to bring out a suitable replacement head)
Aliens: the hardest one. Horrorclix Evil Cosmonauts or Black Tree Doctor Who Alien Ambassadors (3rd Doctor) might be usable as starting points for conversions. Or just use a Black Cat Bases cat!
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How about some of these:
http://pegasushobbies.net/catalog/Peg.-Plastic-Model-Kits-Sci-fi-Rocket%27s-&-Ufo%27s/c7_28_26/index.html
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I will take some shots with the Dinky ones when I get home this evening if no-one beats me to it
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Thanks already! 8)
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Agis - very excited to hear you are planning something like this!
Figures
There is the Zombie Astronaut head which might work as a possesed astronaut. Armed ones planned for next year.
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj278/pez47/Crooked%20Dice/04da9a98.png)
http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/store4.html
However, they are out of stock at the moment(!), but there is a head swap thread on the CD forum which might get you some.
If you want some basic troopers, could I be crass and suggest these - 2 similar female figures out in January too:
(http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/store/images/lg-timeliftsec.jpg)
Vehicles
If you are after some UFO style space craft then the Pegasus do this kit - which might not work for purists, but I kinda like:
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PH9102
Product Enterprises did the best 28mm scale SHADO vehicles IMHO. Google 'Product Enterprise SHADO 2'. I have some scale pics somewhere which I will dig out.
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Airfix do the Angel interceptor in 1/72nd. The old Corgi/Dinky vehicles should be available on EBay. May I humbly suggest for the aliens in 28mm the suited miniature from my own SVfM range. Some of my troopers would do as well.
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Did I miss something here or did this thread slide from UFO to Captain Scarlet? :-X
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Super-Threadi-Mation.
Sorry, my fault.
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http://fabgearusa.com/shadomobile_model_kit_from_ufo.html
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Some thoughts for 28mm proxies, then.
Moonbase personnel: Crooked Dice femdroids (I seem to recall that they had plans to bring out a suitable replacement head)
Urban Mammoth do a couple of figures (boots & mini skirts) which with a little work may fit, in their 13004-Militia Females with Small Arms pack.
I have a fair few Horrorclix LE Astronauts (same sculpt as the Cosmonaut - except white ::)) and they measure 38mm from bottom of foot to top of head - a good match for AT-43. :D
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Apologies but I do not have any modern/sci fi 28's
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w198/svennnthedhnut/blam11005.jpg)(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w198/svennnthedhnut/blam11003.jpg)
and off topic again, old TTG 15mm Laserburn which I always thought were quite Thunderbirds
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w198/svennnthedhnut/blam11006.jpg)
Svennn
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Pegasus makes 1/72 scale UFO
http://modelingmadness.com/scotts/misc/scifi/pegaushobbies/9100.htm
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Here's a pic of the Pegasus UFO with some figs for scale:
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj278/pez47/Doctor%20Who%20Miniatures/Salute%202011/DSCF8323.jpg)
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I think the plastic Mobiles are about the size of the diecast ones, but I don't have a built model, so not 100% sure. Just going by impressions from seeing them awhile back.
The Mobiles are big, as they should be.
I guess it depends upon whether you have the time and skills to build and paint the models. The plus side is you can do the plastic kits in a plain aluminum finish, as opposed to the bluish-metal finish of the diecast vehicles.
Both look better than the old, green ones, in my opinion.
The diecast Mobiles will probably survive the rigors of combat better.
Clean ones are hard to find, and some will trick you into buying the horribly painted ones with the brown blotching all over them (what were they thinking(?) - whoever approved that paintjob should be sent to Antarctica in the dead of Winter, without a coat!). Watch out for "the actual model is dirtier than the one shown in the image".
The Product Enterprise ones are the nicest, and worth searching out. It is possible to clean the blotched ones - there are some descriptions on how to do that on the net (just make sure to exercise extreme care on the plastic bits, since the paint thinner/nail polish remover will soften/melt the plastic, but works fine on the metal).
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Here's the Italian model I was thinking of:
http://amazingscience.altervista.org/ufomodelproduct.htm
Thought they made a smaller one too.
210 Euros, or $300, plus shipping is a bit much for me, but I'd love to have one of the almost 10" diameter models.
At the bottom of the page are a couple of blueprints, in case you want to try to scratchbuild one, or more.
Here's a link to the Italian UFO site, which has a lot of info, and images from the show:
http://www.isoshado.org/
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Thanks for all the input guys! Amazing but also way tooexpensive stuff out there...
;)
I think I will try to get on of the SHADO Tracks that Svennn showed.
Maybe also Strikers Car and that should do it! :)
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well for that price i at least expect him to fly! Not joking, the flying and stabilizer system is no more than 50 bucks! :)
oh, and i really love the pegasus ufo! Enough vintage, enough cheap =)
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If paper is acceptable, the LV84 Onager in this model set could make a suitable not-SHADO mobile.
http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?view=product&product=189
The mayhem traffic set also includes a sports car that could proxy for Straker's car.
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The Astronaut head sprues are now back in stock.
(http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/store/images/160px-astroheads.jpg)
http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/store4.html
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Agis, If you're still interested in Shado mobiles, I found this very good papermodel source:
http://webspace.webring.com/people/gh/hoverdude/More_Papermodels.html (http://webspace.webring.com/people/gh/hoverdude/More_Papermodels.html)
I hate paper models, but I bought an old Dinky Shado 2, which is perfect for 28mm IMO. If you have patience and keep your eyes peeled on ebay you can find some damaged ones for good prices. There are a couple of sellers on ebay that do restoration decals for the dinky toys versions and replacement tracks and missiles for same.
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Why not just scratch build a UFO? I mean a pair of cheap saucers and you're on the right track already. :)
I bought 8 small plant saucers a couple of months ago to build some Mars Attacks style UFO's. Hope to show them soonish!
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Thanks for the pointers! 8)
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For a single seater UFO in 15mm you could try this:
http://www.15mm.co.uk/Grey_Aliens.htm (http://www.15mm.co.uk/Grey_Aliens.htm)
Khurasan do one in their own words:
"Fifties-style interplanetary transport for little green men with bad intentions. A tight fit for normal 15mm human size models, but fine for our little green men, and also for slimies who can simply slither around onboard."
http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/pla14.jpg (http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/pla14.jpg)