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Title: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on December 27, 2011, 02:26:09 PM
Hi again,

as promised in the “Planning the 2012 releases...” threat I am running poll to let you decide what to do next for Victory Decision.

Let me 1st take a look back. 2011 was a fantastic year for A.D.Publishing. Victory Decision was released in May 2011 and it starts selling pretty well for a one man company product with no miniature line tied in.  8)
In fact I was selling more Victory Decision books since May 2011 as World at War books in the last couple of years combined.
A big thank you to all of you who bought any of the books and all the positive and encouraging feedback. Even with solid sales A.D.Publishing is still a 100% hobby project, I am not anymore in the red numbers but healthy black sales are still far away, good that it is a hobby to me and I do not have to make a living out of it… ;)

One more thing - Big thanks to Reuben and Thomas; my creative consultants, lead playtesters, proofreaders and overall nice guys! Both gave great feedback in 2011 and will hopefully do again in 2012, without them Victory Decision would not be what it is now.  :)

Victory Decision is at the moment all about WW II and consequently I focussed on the 4 “big” powers of the conflict. This can be changed in 2012…  ;) ;)
So time to look forward.
The next releases are the Soviet Technical Manual and the Romanian Army Book. Both are in proofreading and layout right now, I am aiming for a January 2012 release.
The Romanian army book is something new in many ways. 1st off it is a mixture of the Army list booklets and the bigger Technical Manuals (Gun and Vehicle Compendiums). It is the perfect way to cover smaller nations that participated in WW II. Army books will cover some lists and the vehicles of that nation. As usual affordable products to get you what you want. The book is also new since Thomas Baumgärtel is the author. We switched roles on that one, I was proofreading and recalculating points and making suggestions while he provides the book itself. Be assured that the book is still 100% compatible with all other Victory Decision books.

The Gear Krieg book is already planned and in development.

For everything after that I am open to your suggestions. Please vote on the options above.
If anything is not covered please chime in!
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Last Chancer on December 27, 2011, 04:07:17 PM
Too many great choices!!  How can I only vote on one!   :D
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on December 27, 2011, 04:21:56 PM
LOL, well eventually all will come out; I am pretty sure of that. Maybe even more.

But I have to set some priorities... 8)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Sheerluck Holmes on December 27, 2011, 08:21:55 PM
I voted for the Pacific, but I would hope you would include Australians in the list.
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on December 27, 2011, 08:42:13 PM
I voted for the Pacific, but I would hope you would include Australians in the list.
Honest question - Are the differences to the British lists justifying a separate entry?  ::)
I was reluctant to include them, since for me it just smalls like "I stick an AUS sticker to the same list and want your money"...  ;)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Dargoth on December 27, 2011, 11:56:34 PM
umm all of them? ;D
Hard to decide. All seem quite nice. I was talking about early war, but lately I feel like SF. I think I need a change of setting. I wonder what do you mean by "example army lists and guidelines to create your own forces" some hard-numbers calculators which allow to field my favored flavor of brainwashed genetically modified killing machines wearing tanks as underwear and/or zealous squishy things in papier-mâché ? (If so, that's my vote)

Well anyway I'm happy that VD is doing good. And as the year is ending let me say:
Happy new year! Let's hope that this wonderful rule-set will gain even more popularity.   

Can't wait for RTM I hope it's HUGE. ;D
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on December 28, 2011, 07:30:31 AM
I wonder what do you mean by "example army lists and guidelines to create your own forces"

I am thinking of unit stats for rather typical troops. Like Terminator Robots, Alien Hunters, Alien devouring beats, Powerarmoured humans etc. Then add a lot of equipment and weapon options (lasers, air burst ammo, IR equipment etc.) and some guidelines to create a force from it.
The idea is to give the players the ability to play most SF settings. The same would go for the weird war book. Stats provded for Zombies, Bomb Zs, Power armoured troops, Rocket Infantry, Walkers and strange tanks. Very customisable.

Soviet TM - Well it even has Aerosans in it...  ;)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Rabbitz on December 28, 2011, 10:27:23 AM
Voted for BoB but would love you to do a dedicated Indian Mutiny set of rules and army lists
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on December 28, 2011, 11:34:21 AM
Voted for BoB but would love you to do a dedicated Indian Mutiny set of rules and army lists
Well Colonial and VSF (I have a lot Darkest Africa, Opium War and Martian Empire minis) is also on the card, but not as fast as the other above...
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Kane on December 28, 2011, 01:45:38 PM
Early war! Go Belgians go!  :D
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: constrict on December 28, 2011, 08:16:19 PM
I'm really for the sf-stuff, would be nice with a as you say, very customizable set off rules!
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Sheerluck Holmes on December 28, 2011, 08:35:46 PM
Honest question - Are the differences to the British lists justifying a separate entry?  ::)
I was reluctant to include them, since for me it just smalls like "I stick an AUS sticker to the same list and want your money"...  ;)

 There is enough difference to warrant a separate list - slightly different Orbat (more noticeable at the higher levels), different access to support equipment (limited tank access, different artillery types) and better trained/motivated than your average British troops (I dare say this will start an argument - a lot would depend on what year of the war).

Certainly enough differences to just call British troops Australian.
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Don_Silvarro on December 28, 2011, 08:37:14 PM
Heh, I''ve been following this board for a while now but registered just to cast my vote  ;)

I'm all in for the sci-fi stuff. I'm not really a big history buff, I actually got interested in Battlefield Evolution WaW and later Victory Decision because of the slick mechanics - I was an avid Starship Troopers player all those years ago ;) A sci-fi book from you Agis would be like a Starship Troopers 3.0, which is pretty much what I've been wishing for a long time now  :D
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on December 28, 2011, 08:46:49 PM
There is enough difference to warrant a separate list - slightly different Orbat (more noticeable at the higher levels), different access to support equipment (limited tank access, different artillery types) and better trained/motivated than your average British troops (I dare say this will start an argument - a lot would depend on what year of the war).
Certainly enough differences to just call British troops Australian.
Hmm, even at the high abstraction level of ViDe?
On a Platoon level the forces are that different, I am really reluctant to justify it.
What are the differences - besides a higher Ld value - in your opinion?
Convince me and I write the list...  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: MountainMan on December 29, 2011, 04:41:10 PM
I hope you mostly remain focused on WWII until all of the major conflicts/theaters have been covered.  I greatly prefer early war, followed closely by mid-war.  I'd love to be able to game Poland '39, France '40 and North Africa '40 - '43 including the entry of the US in Tunisia, and the fight for Sicily.  And the Pacific early to mid-war as well.

The strength of these rules with WWII is that the troops and vehicles are "known" and anyone can game the war with any set of minis they own from any of dozens of manufacturers. 

How would generic sci-fi rules fit my miniatures collection?  If you don't happen to cover the specs for the minis I own, then I have no use for the rules.  Same for Weird War rules.  I suppose you can go with generic walkers and generic power-suited space marines and the like, but I find with each passing year I have less hobby time.  And if I must take a base formula and then tweak it to suit my minis collection, that's time I could be playing.  So I've stopped doing so.  I play rules as they are, if they fit.

So again, I hope your focus remains mostly on WWII until all the theaters have been covered.
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on December 29, 2011, 05:18:43 PM
It honestly depends on the outcome of the Poll.
If the majority is against WWII, who am I to argue?

Do not get me wrong I am fully planning to bring out all the above and more, it is a poll what to do first.

How would generic sci-fi rules fit to your miniatures collection?
I hope greatly. I am NOT aiming at a GW clone or so. More for settings like Terminator, Fall Out, Dune, Wing Commander Ground combat, Aliens, Bug Hunting etc etc.

Oh, there will be no points formula. More like generic troop types that can be equipped via the unit options.
Same for vehicles.
I think I will include some basic vehicles and options to fit them to your models.
Example: Stats for Light, medium and heavy vehicle.
Option to choose the movement type (Hover, tracked, wheeled etc.).
Depending on vehicle class you can then equip the vehicle with weapons, transport options etc.
One time done you have the stats for your vehicle.

The same would go for weird war. Let’s say you have a late war German army but really love to include a DUST walker. You chose Walker type, add the weapons done!

By using this approach I am very confident that it is possible to create a lot of different units that fit to the established historical units.
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: tiberius_mannius on December 30, 2011, 06:47:47 PM
I am torn. I would love to see a Pacific book sooner rather than later, but I got a pile of sci-fi would like to use.

hmmmmmm....guess let's say Sci-fi then Pacific!
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on December 30, 2011, 07:48:38 PM
Lets wait until the Poll is over!
 ;)
Even if SF wins big, some more WW II releases will be 1st since they are already more developed.
But if the Poll points em towards generic SF, SF will be released soon.
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: xothian on January 04, 2012, 03:19:52 PM
i second anything weird
and the generic sci fi seems weird enough ...just miss plaguezombie mobs and some triffids ;)

ciao chris
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on January 04, 2012, 05:27:09 PM
After the poll we can start discussing what setting / units HAS to be included. I will be open to suggestions.
 ;D 8)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: pbeccas on January 05, 2012, 09:41:10 PM
Hmm, even at the high abstraction level of ViDe?
On a Platoon level the forces are that different, I am really reluctant to justify it.
What are the differences - besides a higher Ld value - in your opinion?
Convince me and I write the list...  ;) ;)

Hmmmm.  Lets see.  More Australian ground troops engaged in the south pacific war than USMC and US Army.  Does that justify a list?  100,000 Japanese fighting in the New Guinea campaign 42 to 44.  A few thousand Japanese on Guadalcanal.
Militia Units organised as WWI Platoons in Early War.
Australian Independent Companies.  Massive difference to anything British.
Australian Platoon structure, different weapons, each section had a marksman.  Allocation of flames throwers different.  Different armour.  Different artillery in the form of Mountain Guns and Baby 25pdrs.  Bofors AA used in direct fire roles.

Would like to see the Dutch added to the Pacific Book as well.
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Dargoth on January 09, 2012, 03:56:18 AM
Soviet TM - Well it even has Aerosans in it...  ;)
:-*
Can't wait.

"Oh, there will be no points formula. More like generic troop types that can be equipped via the unit options."
So we'll get a human (4+ 6+ blahblahblah) and we can clad him in power armor/combat armor/wishful thinking, arm with standard assault weapon/support weapon/AT/QCQ and equip with augmented sensors/camouflage ability/medkit etc...
Something like that?
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on January 09, 2012, 08:23:05 AM
:-*
Can't wait.

"Oh, there will be no points formula. More like generic troop types that can be equipped via the unit options."
So we'll get a human (4+ 6+ blahblahblah) and we can clad him in power armor/combat armor/wishful thinking, arm with standard assault weapon/support weapon/AT/QCQ and equip with augmented sensors/camouflage ability/medkit etc...
Something like that?
Yup, like that. Save 6+ generic low tech, Save 5+ todays armour, 4+ Power Armour.
After the poll is closed I will detail it a bit more with some examples.  8)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on January 09, 2012, 08:38:33 AM
Hmmmm.  Lets see.  More Australian ground troops engaged in the south pacific war than USMC and US Army.  Does that justify a list?  100,000 Japanese fighting in the New Guinea campaign 42 to 44.  A few thousand Japanese on Guadalcanal.
Honestly, makes no difference as far as the rules are concerned. I am absolutely willing to do an Australian list, but I was already flamed at TMP that I just want to make money with additional lists, so if the Platoon level differences are not big enough, I have difficulties to justify a separate list for Australians / NZ.  :-X

Australian Independent Companies.  Massive difference to anything British..
True, that is a different story. I absolutely agree. Did they saw much action?
I am reluctant for the above reasons.  :?
Just do not get me wrong, Dishing out a British list, modify one or two entries and press an AUS sticker on it is simple enough, I just do not want to do it.  ;)

Australian Platoon structure, different weapons, each section had a marksman.  Allocation of flames throwers different.  Different armour. 
Each rifle section had a Sniper? Can you detail that?
What do you mean with different weapons? (Are you aware that Victory Decision uses 1 stat for all Bolt Action Rifles…)
In which way was the allocation of flamethrowers different?
Armour? Are you referring to the Sentinel? That is already covered in the Technical Manual.  8)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: NurgleHH on January 09, 2012, 10:36:23 AM
Don't be interested in the "flaming" at TMP. You never threaten me with a gun to buy Victory Decision or an supplement.
For the guys who want to save money it is easy to buy only the stuff they need...

Maybe you can bring the Aussies in an other supplement...
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on January 09, 2012, 10:52:02 AM
Don't be interested in the "flaming" at TMP. You never threaten me with a gun to buy Victory Decision or an supplement.
For the guys who want to save money it is easy to buy only the stuff they need...

Maybe you can bring the Aussies in an other supplement...
"Flaming" was a bit drastic, but they have a point, I do not want to end like FoW with countless variations of the same thing...   ;)
My modular approach for the supplement wants to achieve exactly what you said "to buy only the stuff they need".
 8)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on January 18, 2012, 02:31:29 PM
So the voting is closed and the dice are cast…  ;D :o
The results are very interesting to me. Before the Poll I was under the impression that early war WW II or Modern War are the most pressing releases, but looking at the numbers of the Poll I have to shift my focus.  ::) ;)

As said before the very next release is the Romanian Army Guide. I aim for a 28/29 January 2012 release date.

The USMC and Japanese Army Guides are in the works, the Chinese, Chindit and Australian Independent books will be started soon. If all goes well I hope to have the USMC/ Japanese books ready in March 2012. March / April will se the rest of the Pacific related books.

After that I have to reserve some time for Gear Krieg followed by the Generic SF book.
Following the remaining list of the Poll the rest of the year might see WWII Desert War and Generic weird war rules.

I hope that the result makes you as happy as me, very interesting projects are ahead, thanks to all of you for participating!  8)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: pauld on March 25, 2012, 02:35:48 PM
Missed the poll but Weird War 2 sounds rather delicious - I've seen and been thinking of buying the Rebel German Zombies and Werewolves anyway.  Just need some 15mm mechas

and I have a bucketload of unused 28mm Sci Fi gathering dust so that's good for me too
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Sevya on April 20, 2012, 05:50:29 AM
Has any thought been put toward a book on the irregular forces of WWII? I'm referring to forces such as the French Resistance or the Soviet Partisans.  I think a lot of interesting scenarios could come out of including these forces.

Sevya
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on April 20, 2012, 03:41:44 PM
I have already drafted a file featuring Maquis, Partizans and Volkssturm.
However - right now I would like to stick to the above established release schedule.

Next is the Australian Independent Company Field Guide (this weekend!).
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Marauder on April 21, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
Agis you are just cranking out the supplements!

So looking at your schedule it appears that next will be the Chinese guide, then Gear Krieg and then Generic Sci-fi?!

-Tim
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on April 21, 2012, 09:18:15 PM
That is the plan.

However May will see some additional free surprises - one year of Victory Decision has to be "celebrated"!
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Marauder on April 23, 2012, 06:33:55 PM
That is the plan.

However May will see some additional free surprises - one year of Victory Decision has to be "celebrated"!


Hmmm....  Canadian forces supplement?  :D
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on April 23, 2012, 07:51:38 PM
Nice try!
 ::) 8)
Way smaller...
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: NurgleHH on April 23, 2012, 08:45:12 PM
Nice try!
 ::) 8)
Way smaller...
Smaller than canadians? The Hobbits from Lord of the rings ??? Brits in Burma?
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Solins on April 23, 2012, 09:31:03 PM
Pioneers ? It will be great, I love flamers  lol
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Jakar Nilson on April 23, 2012, 09:37:12 PM
Nice try!
 ::) 8)
Way smaller...

The Iraqi coup of 1941?
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on April 24, 2012, 06:42:37 AM
LOL, what have I unleashed...  :o :o  ;)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Marauder on April 24, 2012, 06:11:53 PM
LOL, what have I unleashed...  :o :o  ;)

Mad Speculation!  ;D


Stats/rules for one of the Gear Kriegs?!

-Tim
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on April 24, 2012, 08:05:03 PM
Damn, close! That is part of it!
 :D
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Marauder on April 24, 2012, 08:16:27 PM
Ah ha!  Okay, I'm not going to guess anymore because I want the surprise.    8)

Looking forward to it!

-Tim

Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Jakar Nilson on April 25, 2012, 01:13:19 AM
LOL, what have I unleashed...  :o :o  ;)

I've got them on my workbench, so it felt topical. :P
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Solins on April 25, 2012, 08:08:05 AM
Damn, close! That is part of it!
 :D


Pulp or Weirdwar suplement ?
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Marauder on April 25, 2012, 05:46:27 PM

Pulp or Weirdwar suplement ?

Ah, can't resist!  I suspect its not a full supplement but some additional rules to let you add some Weirdwar elements to a game - like a mechs, troops with body armour, zombies and lasers!

-Tim
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on April 25, 2012, 06:26:42 PM
Ah, can't resist!  I suspect its not a full supplement but some additional rules to let you add some Weirdwar elements to a game - like a mechs, troops with body armour, zombies and lasers!

-Tim
Again close but this time too much... 8)
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: NurgleHH on April 25, 2012, 07:16:43 PM
Maybe stats for the experimental weaopons of the end of war???
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Marauder on April 25, 2012, 08:42:08 PM
Okay:

1) Rules on walkers
2) Sample stats for some gear kriegs
3) Design rules for your own walkers

Perhaps 3 is a bit much - but hey, Agis you are very fast!  Plus I'm sure you already did this so you could come up with point values for the zillions of vehicles you stated out for ViDe already  ;)

-Tim
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Agis on April 26, 2012, 06:36:51 AM
Sratch #3 and you hit it pretty much on spot.  :-[ ;) ;)

But this will be only one of the free releases in May, I have some more up the sleeve.  :-X
If all goes as expected I have one "goodie" every weekend.
Title: Re: Planning the Victory Decision releases
Post by: Marauder on April 26, 2012, 07:16:07 AM
May will be a good month!

-Tim