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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: BattlewagonBruce on 08 January 2012, 03:09:36 PM

Title: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: BattlewagonBruce on 08 January 2012, 03:09:36 PM
I did this set based on the real and fictional Greif unit of MPs in the Ardenne Forest in '44.

The GMC is the front half from an old French company called Jouet France and the cargo bay and tilt I scatch built.

The jeep is a redone Corgi

The Dodge is an old Len Buller kit form B&B.
regards BB

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Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Papa Spanky on 08 January 2012, 04:23:11 PM
Im not sure what your title means, but those are great looking. I particularily like the bed cover on the truck, well done!
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Steve F on 08 January 2012, 04:34:47 PM
Im not sure what your title means

Operation Greif involved SS units impersonating allied troops in the Ardennes.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Greif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Greif)

Gosh.  Nazis not abiding by the rules of war.  Who'd have thought it?

Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: BattlewagonBruce on 08 January 2012, 04:37:02 PM
You need to watch the classic (if slightly inaccurate) war film BATTLE OF THE BULGE.

There is a scene where some GI's (led by Charles Bronson) come across some MPs acting as engineers (who are Germans dressed to confuse the enemy). One of the GI shouts "The MPs are Krauts" which is what I called this set)

I ran a game for my club in 20mm based on this and I played the MP squad, but one of the canier players rumbled it!

It is based on real event (the Germans wore blue scarves to identify themselves to their fellow Germans). They got caught and some were shot in the field as they were breaking the rules of war.

I did not want to put it in the title directly for the sake of our German members.

Thanks for the compliment.

BB
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Weird WWII on 08 January 2012, 06:27:39 PM
I just added to my blog about those sneaky Krauts too but with their Ersatz M10s.

http://www.weirdwwii.com/2012/01/real-weird-wwii-ersatz-m10.html

Great idea in planning but them dog-faced GIs just didn't fall for the ruse.

Great paint,
Brian
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: BattlewagonBruce on 08 January 2012, 07:00:49 PM
Apparently GI's took to asking any units they ran into about baseball - so if you didn't know who won the last World Series you were in trouble.

Thanks for the compliment.

BB

PS just noticed you are from the Lone Star State - My club did ACW units for a big CHristmas game, and I did (amongst others) some Texsas Infantry, which are my favs of the bunch. I could post some shots if you like in the relevant forum section.
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Bugsda on 08 January 2012, 07:14:13 PM
Don't mention the war  lol
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: BattlewagonBruce on 08 January 2012, 08:19:21 PM
Thank you Basil,

would you like a prawn Geobels?

BB
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Weird WWII on 08 January 2012, 08:31:44 PM
Everyone who is into the history of the War of Northern Aggression loves Hood's and Ross' Texas Brigades.  

(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x350/weirdwwii/Web%20Site%20Use/Lone_Star.jpg)

Would love to see them pics,
Brian

Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: BattlewagonBruce on 08 January 2012, 08:44:00 PM
Hooorah to that - I will sort them out.

regards

BB
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: SBMiniaturesGuy on 08 January 2012, 10:44:09 PM
You really need to watch "Battleground" then -- its the BEST movie ever made about the Bulge, kept small scale squad level, good acting and actors. Won an Oscar in 1949. Has a german infiltrator scene as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleground_(film)

You need to watch the classic (if slightly inaccurate) war film BATTLE OF THE BULGE.

There is a scene where some GI's (led by Charles Bronson) come across some MPs acting as engineers (who are Germans dressed to confuse the enemy). One of the GI shouts "The MPs are Krauts" which is what I called this set)
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Weird WWII on 09 January 2012, 02:06:25 AM
The beginning of Heart's War has a pretty cool scene with them sneaky Germans as well.  In fact, that sets the stage for the lead getting caught and sent to a POW camp.

Brian
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Papa Spanky on 10 January 2012, 07:12:01 PM
AHH I get it now. I did see Battle of the Bulge, just didnt make the connection.  lol
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Colonel Tubby on 10 January 2012, 07:27:14 PM
Great looking set of figures and vehicles you have there.

You need to watch the classic (if slightly inaccurate) war film BATTLE OF THE BULGE.

Agreed it is an inaccurate and somewhat confusing movie - it's not really clear about the fate of Bastogne and without a little history you could be forgiven for thinking the Germans captured it (at least that hows its always felt to me!)

You really need to watch "Battleground" then -- its the BEST movie ever made about the Bulge, kept small scale squad level, good acting and actors. Won an Oscar in 1949. Has a german infiltrator scene as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleground_(film)


Couldn't agree more great film as much about human drama as the battle itself.
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Marine0846 on 11 January 2012, 04:59:57 AM
Great job on the vehicles.
Really nice job on the truck.
May I ask who makes the figures?
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: BattlewagonBruce on 12 January 2012, 09:02:40 PM
Some eagle eyed member could tell you - I picked them up off ebay! I think the MPs are a BAM mortar set that I added armbands in tape and radio antennas etc.

I always carry quite a few old figs so I can do commissions.

Thanks for the kind comments - I would love to pick up a commission of someone at some point! I really need a website though.
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Galland on 13 January 2012, 05:53:59 PM
Operation Greif involved SS units impersonating allied troops in the Ardennes.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Greif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Greif)

Gosh.  Nazis not abiding by the rules of war.  Who'd have thought it?



Unlike the allied swines that executed so many of their pows? I will wait for the replies with great anticipation, the hordes of wikipedia heroes showing up and exposing their ignorance to the world. I will get my popcorns.
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Steve F on 13 January 2012, 06:04:43 PM
Make a provocative remark in the hope of getting angry replies?  There's a word for that, isn't there?

(I assumed that suggesting Nazis did bad things was not controversial.)
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 13 January 2012, 07:09:33 PM
Stay cool, guys..
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Helen on 13 January 2012, 07:41:49 PM
I echo Prof's thoughts and I'll lock the topic and remove unwanted replies that are not in the spirit of the thread.

Thanks,

Helen
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: Galland on 19 January 2012, 09:34:50 PM
Make a provocative remark in the hope of getting angry replies?  There's a word for that, isn't there?

(I assumed that suggesting Nazis did bad things was not controversial.)

I will keep in line and not bother to answer this silly comment, so we dont get the thread locked. I just wanted to point out that this was done on both sides, and yes, you can find the information easily enough.

To actually comment on the OPs post, the models are very nice, and a cool project indeed, and I am sure it will yield some very interesting wargaming. Great inspiration for me at least.
Title: Re: The MPs are Kr*&%$ (sorry Germans)
Post by: BattlewagonBruce on 22 January 2012, 04:43:06 PM
Thanks for the compliment!  The set was a commission for a guy in Iowa.

regards

BB