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Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: digimortal on 26 January 2012, 11:56:15 AM
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Lifted this from TGN: Gang War Miniatures releases new post apocalyptic miniatures.
http://www.shapeways.com/shops/gangwar
Unfortunately at this stage they are only 3d renders but we can only wait and see.
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With an active cart I'm suprised that there aren't real figures on there. Come back to us when they actually produce something physical, renders schmenders unfortuantely.
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Shapeways does 3d printing. It's printed when you buy it. I doubt waiting and seeing will produce cast copies for sale, seeing how they're already selling the prints straight to the end consumer?
I don't agree with the "renders schmenders" attitude, and there's a lot I don't like about those sculpts, but if someone does order them, I'd love to see some in-the-flesh photos.
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i placed an Order.A Pack of the Delaque Girls w Revolvers and a Pack of the Robo Dogs.i got the Notification that they were shipped on or before Feb.14 lets see what shows up first these Girls or the Defiance Marines lol
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Well we're all interested to see what they actually look like rather than the renders, please do show Dr Falkenhayn whenyou get them!
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Shapeways does 3d printing. It's printed when you buy it. I doubt waiting and seeing will produce cast copies for sale, seeing how they're already selling the prints straight to the end consumer?
I don't agree with the "renders schmenders" attitude, and there's a lot I don't like about those sculpts, but if someone does order them, I'd love to see some in-the-flesh photos.
Your first sentence makes no sense sorry, please refine/elaborate. Renders schmenders = company either hasn't the physical product to sell currently or there's an issue with the final sculpts, which the render conveniently hides. Secondly, why can't the company trying to sell these figures take a photo of a cast product, or get some painted up to encourage sales?
As I said... I'll wait to see them in the flesh thanks. Dr F when they turn up post up.
The Commander
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Your first sentence makes no sense sorry, please refine/elaborate.
3d printing: plastic powder in a big box they shoot a laser at it and it creates a duplicate of the 3d model in plastic by fusing the plastic dust togeather into a solid model. Quality and level of detail depends on the type of plastic particulate being used. This is what shapeways (the company you are actually ordering the figures from) does. You place the order, shapeways prints the 3d models then mails them to you and the artist gets a cut of the money.
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I like that Shapeway is getting implemented more and more into the hobby. Of course, this might cause some sculptors to lose money.
However, the zealots lots a bit meh... Clown shoes and scrawny wrists doesn't appeal to my wallet :/
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3d printing: plastic powder in a big box they shoot a laser at it and it creates a duplicate of the 3d model in plastic by fusing the plastic dust togeather into a solid model. Quality and level of detail depends on the type of plastic particulate being used. This is what shapeways (the company you are actually ordering the figures from) does. You place the order, shapeways prints the 3d models then mails them to you and the artist gets a cut of the money.
I get the tech and printing process,(take alook at this chess piece tower with a double helix printed inside it that Ian at Fenris Games showed me!
(http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq186/Vyperzoom/RIMG1827Medium.jpg)
just wasn't aware of the 'middle man' shapeways company. So Gang war never product stock as it were? Not sure that's right. Even if it was they should have copies of their printed product results on their website surely?
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So Gang war never product stock as it were? Not sure that's right. Even if it was they should have copies of their printed product results on their website surely?
exactly! here is the Text from the Notification Mail:
Quote:
Thank you for your order! We will send it to our production facility shortly.
Once we have produced your order you will receive an email from UPS, this
email will point you to the tracking information of your package.
Your order will be delivered on or before February 14th
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Your first sentence makes no sense sorry, please refine/elaborate.
I noticed that the link was to Shapeways, not the homepage of any Gang War Miniatures. As such, my impression is that your later assumption is entirely correct - Gang War Miniatures has zero stock, and it's entirely possible that he's never even seen his own product in printed form.
Gang War Miniatures strikes me more as a lone zbrush doodler's etsy store than a professional initiative.
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exactly! here is the Text from the Notification Mail:
Quote:
Thank you for your order! We will send it to our production facility shortly.
Once we have produced your order you will receive an email from UPS, this
email will point you to the tracking information of your package.
Your order will be delivered on or before February 14th
hmmmm, not sure on the quality of the pieces you'll get back as I understand from looking around other forums that Shapeways equipment will not produce a production piece without major prepping, but we will see...
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I went ahead and ordered the Sneaky Girls with automatic weapons, the junk barrel stack and the water still. I've ordered blind before, and it's not that big of a deal. Worst case scenario, they will suck and then I paint them and hide them with the rest of my sneakies.
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I'm siding with the Commander here. While the renders look amazing, it's mind boggling that the company doesn't simply produce a few in the flesh, for advertising purposes.
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lol yeah i confess it was a real impulsive Purchase ::)Actually i never heard of Shapeways or Gang War before hitting the Link...
iam really curious to see the Robodogs in the Plastic hopefully theyre cool and if theyre all crap we can at least bash and curse them into the darkest deepest devon ;)
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Here's an example of one of the zealots:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?318154-Current-State-of-3D-Printing
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uhm,well :? :-I
Hopefully the Robodogs will look better lol
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uhm,well :? :-I
Hopefully the Robodogs will look better lol
Look on the bright side, it might just be the paint job!
;)
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maybe its because i saw the Wrecked Age Minis shortly before-Culture Shock lol
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maybe its because i saw the Wrecked Age Minis shortly before-Culture Shock lol
I'll make sure to paint some up really terribly, so you don't have high expectations.
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lol
Funnily enough when I was in the doctor's surgery yesterday merrily coughing my lungs up. I picked up a july 2011 edition of New Scientist, that had a full acticle on 3d printing and some blurb on Shapeways etc... things of the future will also start shakey, give it a few years and we'll all be ordering the latest prints direct to our own machines! Or that's the theory! ;)
The Commander
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I would be interesting to see the finished model. That one on war seer looks oK- I have seen worse sculpts cast in metal. The cost is a bit high, but the potential is there.
I wonder how tough this product will be compaired to plastics/resin.
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ok got mine today,will post Pics in a few Hours.Quality?Cant really say now-theyre cast in Clear Plastic ::)
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Thats not clear plastic, those are stealth suits!
EDIT: spell checker does some weird things once in a while.
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Have a Look:
Single Pieces,No Mouldlines/Flashing,the Poses are dynamic so far so good i just dont see any Details lol
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/gangwar001.jpg)
much better with a Basecoat.Details:still nice better than the WGF Shocktrooper but below the Quality of Alkemy or Warmachine Plastics
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/gangwar002.jpg)
after the Basecoat dried i noticed the very rough Surface...
to be continued lol
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/gangwar004.jpg)
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/gangwar005.jpg)
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Thanks for posting those pics. Maybe if the price point drops a bit...
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The girl actually looks quite a bit better than I expected!
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The girl actually looks quite a bit better than I expected!
yes they arent bad,just a bit pricey for what you get.
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My thoughts exactly, get a basecoat of colour on our fema3l delaque ganger and watch the grain come through! ;)
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Must admit I was intrigued about these, so took the punt and ordered a few. I think the detail is pretty good (the water tank looks fab), but I found them to be very, very delicate ... I've broken two already lol
I thought I'd have go and paint a couple up, but I found the rough texture to be pretty awful, so much so, that I gave up on one of the lasses, and just continued with the dog, so here it is (nowt flash, just tabletop)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/Vern_06/0019.jpg)
Also did a comparison shot with Heresy & GW
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/Vern_06/0012.jpg)
There's a bit more of a write up in my blog (in signature)
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Thank you for being a guinea-pig, Vern.
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Durn...
I was intrigued, but I think I'll have to pass.
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Hmmm. I took the plunge as well and have the figs based, but not primed. I think I'll give them a good going over with Gesso and see it it makes a difference. BTW, the Water Pump is a nice little piece of scenery. It will make for a brilliant objective piece.
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The clear plastic got me thinking that someone could create some pretty nice stealth suited not-Predators (like Ainsty's INAPs). The texture wouldn't be that big a problem as the models would largely be unpainted.
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Very curious about this one.....
Please do post when you receive the product.
Good or bad.
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(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj548/inadachris/thenewhotness.jpg)
Hello everyone. Thanks for all your comments. I am the guy running Gang Warfare Miniatures and I thought you'd like an updated pic of the miniatures printed out. Let me know your thoughts.
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Are these new prints or still from Shapeways? I love the design.
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(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj548/inadachris/StealthLadiesPrinted.jpg?t=1330099495)
Better Pic. Yes, they are from Shapeways.
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Personally I don't think they look that bad at all. The proportions seem fairly decent, and the lack of superfluous detailing isn't a great loss.
Duncan
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There were many requests for figures with different head and hand options. This is the progress with the new Iron Gang members. I'd love everyone's feedback before I prep them for printing
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj548/inadachris/miners-1.jpg?t=1330300836)
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Nice! Some female not-orlocks. I love it!
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They look pretty good, but all the girls seem to share the same proportions. Maybe on some you could add a little more junk in the trunk, or some hips and smaller/ bigger breasts.
Oh and shoes. Two women in the same gang would not be caught dead wearing the same shoes.
In the grim darkness of the future there is only war, caused by female cattiness.
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Well, take this as a comment from one who is skint, and unlikely to be buying in the forseeable future, but I'd lose the tabards. They look daft, drastcally limit conversion, and were one of the main reasons I never did anything with Necromunda figures. I suspect they were added in the first place to make casting easier.
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I just ordered the Nooker Mix and am looking forward to painting these. I've been looking for suitable minis for Gangs of Mega City One and these should do nicely.
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There were many requests for figures with different head and hand options. This is the progress with the new Iron Gang members. I'd love everyone's feedback before I prep them for printing
I really like the concept but I'm not quite on board yet. I'd like to see even more modularity if possible (separate torso, legs and arms) more like a standard plastic kit. I don't know if that's feasable with the frosted material, but that would be of more interest to me than static poses.
Also, I'm with Steve, loose the Tabards and give those gals a decent set of trousers.
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Also, I'm with Steve, loose the Tabards and give those gals a decent set of trousers.
Well, just like the other girls had bald heads, goggles and trenchcoats, these ones really do have to have tabards if they're going to blend in with the miniatures they're supposed to blend in with. Like them or not, they're one of the distinctive visual features of the orlocks -- tabards, headbands, and those little jackets.
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Give the escher girls mohawk hair dos and no one will confuse them with bald delaque troops tabard or no. I supose it comes down to if GWM wants to stick to the narrow window of not-necromunda or if they want to appeal to the wider post-apocalyptic crowd.
On the other hand I guess that's the great thing about printing on demand. They can do a tabard version and a non-tabard version without worrying about anything but the time involved with the sculpt.
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Absolutely. You both make great points. I will do a version of both. That's a very easy fix. I appreciate your swift responses!
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Do you have a blog or website outside of Shapeways?
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On the other hand I guess that's the great thing about printing on demand. They can do a tabard version and a non-tabard version without worrying about anything but the time involved with the sculpt.
True enough!
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Do you have a blog or website outside of Shapeways?
Not yet, but I'm working on a site for Gang War Miniatures which will hopefully make it easier to organize the different products. Right now there's not a good system in place on Shapeways what makes shopping a large inventory manageable.
www.gangwarminiatures.com (http://www.gangwarminiatures.com)
As I said, I just started it.
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So.... some folks have mentioned the models having rough surfaces. Is this a constant issue and all the figures have this problem or is it just an occassional thing akin to a mis-cast?
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I have printed with them many times. Of the four sets of figures that I had printed with them, one of them had a rough surface. Once I sent them pics, they reprinted them at no cost to myself.
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I don't see any tabards. They're wearing skimpy shirts and jackets. ???
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I don't see any tabards. They're wearing skimpy shirts and jackets. ???
The figures without heads and hands midway down page 3.
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Those are the ones I meant. Nobody in that picture is wearing a tabard. They have tight shirts that show off their cleavage and belly buttons, and are wearing jackets over them.
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"Tabard" seems to be the word people use to mean that piece of cloth hanging down between the legs at the front, but which isn't a loincloth. Not the dictionary definition, I know, but that's how I used it.
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OK, it's more of a breechcloth than a tabard, but then I'm no expert on ancient fashion.
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Oh, I get you. Thought I was going mad for a minute. That's what confused the hell out of me, as to me a tabard is sleeveless garment of the upper body, as worn by medieval heralds, the Three Musketeers and supermarket checkout girls. It didn't occur to me to be looking for something dangling between their legs. :)
As you say rwwin, breechcloth is the word we're groping for.
Do you think they are supposed to be wearing trousers under them? If not those are some weird bony arses on the ones with no rear cloth or conveniently-placed utility pouch. I think they look pretty good from the front, though. Nice belly buttons.
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Back in my punk rock days those were called "crotch flaps" in the front and "bum flaps" in the back. They're still a required piece of clothing amongst some industrial-music loving kids.
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Hi Gang
A lot has happened since my last post! I spent a ton of time trying to figure out how to make it possible to print bodies, weapons and heads separately but due to the way that Shapeways prices things it wouldn't work. There is a startup fee for every "model". The only way to avoid the startup fee is to spread it out among a bunch of figures printed at once. That is why they are printed in threes or fours. If you were purchasing all three separately you are paying the startup fee three times rather than just once. That being said. . . . NEW MINIATURES!
(http://images.shapeways.com/model/picture/640x476_540500_86057_1336866552.jpg) (http://www.shapeways.com/model/540500/female-miner-gang-members-w-revolvers.html)
(http://images.shapeways.com/model/picture/640x476_570999_86312_1337026671.jpg) (http://www.shapeways.com/model/570999/female-stealth-gang-members-auto-weapons.html)
(http://images.shapeways.com/model/picture/640x476_546718_86060_1336866709.jpg) (http://www.shapeways.com/model/546718/folding-industrial-walkway.html)
The Railings fold down!
(http://images.shapeways.com/model/picture/640x476_547477_86063_1336866776.jpg) (http://www.shapeways.com/model/547477/seedy-apocalypse-signs.html)
(http://images.shapeways.com/model/picture/640x476_546883_86059_1336866659.jpg) (http://www.shapeways.com/model/546883/pipe-cluster.html)
As always, input is needed and appreciated.
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Now scenery is where 3d printing could really work well, that gantry is nice as are the post apoc 'titty twister' styled neons.
The Commander
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Yep, this stuff works and I wants it!
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Really interesting.
Is the graininess on the signs by design, from printing, or from the primer/paint?
I can see those on my table :)
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I really dig those signs and that walkway, time to go pay shapeways a visit...
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Thanks Gang
The grainy quality is as a result of the printing process because I printed it in "white strong and flexible". I'm going to add some other printing options but they will get progressively more expensive as they look smoother. For me, I actually prefer a bit of grain when I'm going for post apocalyptic. It makes the rust look more realistic and soaks up the paint nicely.
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Actually, printing the signs in one of SHapeways' clear materials, then hitting them with the various Tamiya clear colors would be most effective - doubly so if you adjusted the design to include a channel into which a person could run some EL wire for the proper neon look!
Shapeways is still a bit rough for organic shapes, but that gantry looks perfect for PA goodness!
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I really like the rail, but how long is it?
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Looks great which kind of software do you use to render these miniatures?
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The walkway is 20cm long. I use zbrush for sculpting. Using them as actaul light up signs is an incredible idea! I will make them available in Frosted detail. Below is a pic of the miners with a black wash and dry brush.
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj548/inadachris/FemaleMinersBlackwash.jpg)