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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: nicknorthstar on 28 January 2012, 01:01:31 PM
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I was shown some samples of the plastic Teutonic Knights yesterday, and was given a date of 10th February for them to be with me. They are looking very good! It's also just one of a whole series of Medieval sets, new sets they are working on right now for release through the year.
I've put some pictures on the North Star Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/North-Star-Military-Figures/218634441498799
Nick
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Wow..
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/402417_349545541731443_271339052885426_1398451_1242649702_n.jpg)
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Might just be tempted into plastics yet ;D They are definately nice
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really. WOW.
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Good news! I was waiting at these :)
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I saw the 3-ups at Crisis and they looked pretty good indeed. 8)
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Looks like the Robin Hood / King Arthur projects might have just got a big boost.
May even consider looking into Teutonic crusades....
will Nick have these at Hammerhead?
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:-* :-* :-* Excellent!!!!
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Great looking plastics.
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I've talk with them an the price is good, the shipping only 1 L, it's very cheap, and the miniatures looks good.
In the other hand, here we are making an historical miniatures journey, and firerforge send us a box, so we are happy!.
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I won't be at Hammerhead, but my main man, Mr Dave Thomas, will be there and I'll be giving him a big pile of them to sell. In case you don't know Dave, he's Perry Miniatures/ Foundry/ Artizan/ Crusader etc.
As long as nothing goes wrong of course, the 10th is a Friday and Hammerhead is the following Sunday, just our luck they'll arrive Monday because there were chickens on the A1 and the truck couldn't get through....
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I think these look great! any idea of pricing?
Blue
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At the moment, I think it's £20 for 12 mounted figures.
Nick
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February 10th? When did you order them? I ordered mine on Christmas day and I had been hoping that I could've received them by the end of the month.
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Looking very good, although conversion possibilities might be a bit limited due to the barding. Anyway, I'll try a set if not too pricey.
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Fireforge Games have big ambitions. They are already under way with their next sets, and the plans are to have a series of Medieval sets that are inter-changable. So rather than have to carve up the Teutonics to convert them into something else, a future box set would have the pieces you needed to mix and match to make what you want. Thats the impression I've got from Fabio, one of the main men behind Fireforge.
Just posted a load of photos on Faceache of the first painted unit
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.357984940897081.108438.218634441498799&type=1
Nick
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Yes. Quite tempting... Although i'd use them for something other than Teutonics i think... Do you happen to know, Nick, if you get plenty of heads to choose from, or are there just 12 in a box?
I saw on their site a while back that they have rather spectacular artwork for the later C15th / Wars of the Roses. Would be interested to know how far down the line those are planned for, and whether they'll be compatible with the Perrys WOTR sets... ::)
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Fireforge Games have big ambitions. They are already under way with their next sets, and the plans are to have a series of Medieval sets that are inter-changable. So rather than have to carve up the Teutonics to convert them into something else, a future box set would have the pieces you needed to mix and match to make what you want. Thats the impression I've got from Fabio, one of the main men behind Fireforge.
Just posted a load of photos on Faceache of the first painted unit
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.357984940897081.108438.218634441498799&type=1
Nick
Dead link.
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It worked for me. Have I done something wrong?
This is the Facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/North-Star-Military-Figures/218634441498799
Is that working?
Nick
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I am impressed. Should I hold out for a set of early Hospitaliers or convert a set of these?
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I am impressed. Should I hold out for a set of early Hospitaliers or convert a set of these?
My thought exactly.
Get rid of the horny great helms, and these could pass for pretty much any knightly host of the era...
Hence my question about how many heads supplied. Are there enough extras to make up 12 figures without using or converting the more gothic great helms with their various baroque appendages?
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My thought exactly.
Get rid of the horny great helms, and these could pass for pretty much any knightly host of the era...
Hence my question about how many heads supplied. Are there enough extras to make up 12 figures without using or converting the more gothic great helms with their various baroque appendages?
The barded horses are not of much use for First Crusaders in the Holy Land neither.
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"Fabio"? are you italian? :)
great figures, really! A whole army of crusaders will be great! so bad that we'll have to wait like 1 year before having the complete options!
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Yes. Quite tempting... Although i'd use them for something other than Teutonics i think...
Robin Hood ;)
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Nice though they undoubtedly are, these figures are far too late to represent the First Crusade. Your standard Conquest plastic Norman Knights are perfect for that.
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The barded horses are not of much use for First Crusaders in the Holy Land neither.
They would be ok for 3rd Crusade though?
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They would be ok for 3rd Crusade though?
I think they would, yes. The Saraccen use of barding seems well documented so I don't know why the Franks would not use it.
It looks like the barrel and sugarloaf great helmet was a thing of the second and third crusade to, darn it!
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Did they have Great Helms at the time of the Third Crusade? Old books always show Coeur de Lion and co. gadding about in them, but more modern ones seem to have backed away from that, going for a transitional type, with a fixed face-guard added to the older, more open style of helmet.
Wikipedia says they did, but sometimes Wikipedia doesn't know shit. I dunno, not really my era.
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Did they have Great Helms at the time of the Third Crusade? Old books always show Coeur de Lion and co. gadding about in them, but more modern ones seem to have backed away from that, going for a transitional type, with a fixed face-guard added to the older, more open style of helmet.
Wikipedia says they did, but sometimes Wikipedia doesn't know shit. I dunno, not really my era.
I have bought minis for this period which did many moons ago however you could be right but they do look rather tasty :)
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Of course. I'm speaking with no great weight of knowledge here, just what I gleaned from browsing a few Ospreys and from watching Tenpole Tudor videos. :)
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lol I did a google and apparently they were used accoridng to armour makers of today since 1220 so you are right as that was late 12th century :D
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I think they would, yes. The Saraccen use of barding seems well documented so I don't know why the Franks would not use it.
It looks like the barrel and sugarloaf great helmet was a thing of the second and third crusade to, darn it!
Face plates were around for the Third Crusade (and maybe proto great helms, but these would have been very, very rare indeed).
Barding was just coming into use by the time of the Third Crusade, but it is not mentioned in any of the primary sources.
The helmets and leg armour on the knights place these figures early to mid thirteenth century. LTD's 1220 would be at the very front end of that.
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the first cylinder-shaped helms (not the great helm) were used after the 3rd crusade.
(http://www.earlyblazon.com/earlyblazon/images/sceau/richard3.gif)
Richard the Lionheart, 1198
from http://www.earlyblazon.com
Olivier
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This is not so black and white Olivier as Richard used his first Great Seal of 1189 during the Third Crusade.
Contrary to some of the hand drawn interpretations on the internet, some actual impressions of Richard's seal of 1189 indicate the use of a helmet that has either a face plate or is an early form of full helm.
It's not so easy to make out on this image, but I've handled a few of the real thing and it's open to discussion.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/HB1.jpg)
Surviving carvings indicate face plates/visors in use by Normans in Byzantine service as early as the eleventh century - some of which are very close to a full helm.
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In stock now!
http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=4088
looking good! Pre-order people, yours are already in the post.
And I will have them to take to Hammerhead.
http://www.hammerhead.org.uk/
Dave Thomas will have them on his stand.
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I'm in the process of painting a WOTR army for no other reason than they are colourful and look good in units, that said I have no knowledge of the period.
Could someone please tell me what modifications would be needed to convert these Teutonic Knights to pass as WOTR figures?
Thanks in advance and have a good weekend.
John
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Hi John,
These are aimed at the early to mid 13th century rather than late fifteenth century - so they are about 200 years out in terms of armour, weapons etc. and the difference is as great as using WW1 figures to represent present day Western troops in Aghanistan.
The Perrys have some plastic WotR knights in the Rhendra queue, probably due out close to Salute in April. it's worth holding out for them I'd say.
Now if you were after the Second Barons' War - Simon de Montfort and Edward Longshanks, then they would be ideal.
Regards,
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Hi janner,
Thanks very much for the advice and well explained for a total biff like myself. ??? I'm planning on going to Salute so hopefully they will have the Perry Knights there. :)
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Hi janner,
Thanks very much for the advice and well explained for a total biff like myself. ??? I'm planning on going to Salute so hopefully they will have the Perry Knights there. :)
My pleasure. There are quite a few here waiting for the plastic Perry knights.
So you might have to fight your way past Captain Blood :o
You'll find me, looking confused, helping man JimBibbly's Sammy demo game (but hopefully with a box or more of both types of plastic knight in my bag).
Regards,
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Those look great!
Love the horns, pose/helm variety, and barding.
I hope they do some foot figures soon, as well as some opponents to go up against them.
All we need now is "...more cowbell...!", due to all those horns.