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Title: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: tjantzen on 12 February 2012, 04:00:31 PM
Hi all!
Have just discovede the series of weathering sprays by Modelmates

http://www.modelmates.co.uk/ (http://www.modelmates.co.uk/)

Here are my first tries on some plasticville buildings. I used Mud brown, Slate Gray and moss green.
My first impression is that is is not quite as easy as it looks on their how-to videos  ::)
But for a first try I think they turned out ok. Now they just need some brush-up and a coat of seal  :)

regards
Thomas

Kit-bashed post office:
(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/tjantzen/28mm%20Buildings/PostOffice1.jpg~original)

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/tjantzen/28mm%20Buildings/PostOffice2.jpg~original)

Motel
(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/tjantzen/28mm%20Buildings/Motel1.jpg~original)

Trailer
(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/tjantzen/28mm%20Buildings/Trailer1.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: tjantzen on 12 February 2012, 07:34:13 PM
And here a shot after I did a little brush-up on the trailer (before and after)

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/tjantzen/28mm%20Buildings/Trailer2.jpg~original)

Here another picture of the post office front and back - Here I have wiped off some more of the paint.

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/tjantzen/28mm%20Buildings/PostOffice3.jpg~original)

regards
Thomas
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: Ironworker on 12 February 2012, 08:07:44 PM
looks good.  Might be good for dicast vehicles too. 
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: Pil on 12 February 2012, 08:41:13 PM
Hmmm, looks like it acts like a wash, but from a spray can. Sounds like it could have it's uses. In these cases it is a very quick way to get a building from looking like a toy to looking like a piece of scenery. But as you've shown a little extra work is needed to get the most of it.

It is interesting though, so thanks for posting! :)
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: Marine0846 on 13 February 2012, 02:34:50 AM
Really neat, well done.
I have all three building you have done,
but have put off doing anything with them.
Thanks to you I might have found the answer.
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: tjantzen on 13 February 2012, 08:50:02 AM
Hmmm, looks like it acts like a wash, but from a spray can. Sounds like it could have it's uses. In these cases it is a very quick way to get a building from looking like a toy to looking like a piece of scenery. But as you've shown a little extra work is needed to get the most of it.

It is interesting though, so thanks for posting! :)

Yes it is indeed sort of a wash on s spray can... Modelmates also have them as liquids for either brush-on or for spray guns.
However these weathering sprays are Water soluble and does not contain any drying agent. This means, that in contrast to normal inks, this weathering spray can be wiped off with a damp cloth even after they have dried completely, drying which takes about a minute...
This also means that a vanish has to applied (as a spray) to not make the dye get in contact with dampness and water.
On their homepage they actually recommend to spray on the bare plastic as spayed or painted models may absorb some of the color...
I'll make a test on a diecast car soon and post the result
Regards
Thomas
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: tjantzen on 13 February 2012, 11:21:27 AM
looks good.  Might be good for dicast vehicles too.  

here is a quick and dirty job of applying the product straight on to a die cast vehicle...
In the  middle row I did a quick wipe off
in the last row I have quickly added some weatheing powder.
Its not ideal on the painted surface of the diecast car - but its alright for some quick jobs.
Lighter colores such as light sand bown, rust brown and light gray might have been better suited for vehicules...
The whole job took about 10 minutes  :D

regards
Thomas

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/tjantzen/Red%20Dawn/weatheredcar.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: tjantzen on 13 February 2012, 03:14:55 PM
For this test - I spraypainted the car first with normal paint before applying the the weathering paint.
Q-tips are rather good for wiping off the colors :D

In the last row - I added some  additional paint as the weathering paint did not bond well with the black plastic part such as the bumper and wheels and they therefor looked too new and shiny.

Regards
Thomas

PS . the guy in the yellow rain coat does not look too happy that his girlfriend totally trashed his wheels - and I dont blame him lol lol

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/tjantzen/Red%20Dawn/Volvo_weathering.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: Dr. The Viking on 13 February 2012, 03:36:47 PM
Brilliant!

I can't help wondering whether a 'wash' of M*I*G* pigments would do the same though.  ???
(just slower but with the added possibility of mixing and mingling pigments)
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: Brummie Thug on 13 February 2012, 07:48:24 PM
Excellent looking results so far  ;)
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: Cypher226 on 13 February 2012, 09:58:51 PM
Looks like they might work really well on Sarissa stuff too - spray on, wipe off the excess... hm, will have to try that one. Where did you get yours?
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: Doomsdave on 14 February 2012, 06:50:06 AM
These look like a great solution for terrain.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: Pil on 14 February 2012, 10:03:54 AM
Thanks for posting the tests. Did you varnish your models afterwards to stop it from rubbing off further?
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: Golgotha on 14 February 2012, 10:19:56 AM
On a side note I had never thought about anyone wargaming trailor trash clay eating scenarios... One has to ask why? I hope that degenerate delinquent gets an increased chance of jams for mis-using his firearm.

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

A rant supposedly by Plato, but strangely still apt for today - lol

Any painting process that speeds things up has got my vote - love the buildings!
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: tjantzen on 14 February 2012, 12:39:48 PM
Looks like they might work really well on Sarissa stuff too - spray on, wipe off the excess... hm, will have to try that one. Where did you get yours?

Hi Cypher226!

ohh.. be careful with the Sarissa stuff my friend  ;)
I have already tread that path….  :?

I have tried the wipe-off on a Sarissa building  and that thing just sucked up the pigments like a camel in the desert.  :o

I had no time to wipe before most of the pigment was absorbed by the mdf Material  :'(

-Mind that it was not the weatheing spray that I used on the sarissa building but I have tried both with inks, water diluted paint and oil color – and all with the same result.

Here you can see my before and after shots of applying the die colors.

The building parts were first spray painted the different colors and after drying  the wash was applied and tried wiped off with a disastrous result  :?

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/tjantzen/28mm%20Buildings/Sarrisamodels_web.jpg~original)

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/tjantzen/28mm%20Buildings/Building_web.jpg~original)

I you do try with the weathering sprays make sure that the MDF surface is completely sealed... Maybe painting them instead of just spraying them would help with the sealing :)

regards
Thomas

ps. I was so lucky that a train store close to my home in Copenhagen actually had the spraycans in stock  :P
Title: Re: Weathering sprays by Modelmates
Post by: tjantzen on 14 February 2012, 12:51:42 PM
Thanks for posting the tests. Did you varnish your models afterwards to stop it from rubbing off further?

Hi Pil!
No I have not yet sealed the models. They are actually quit dry to the touch and do not rub off at all.
Feels like normal paint jobs :-I
I would assume that you could actually handle them quite a bit without having the color rub off but as the paint contains no materiel to chemically bond the paint materiel permanently to the subject, there is always the risk of rubbing off or dissolving if coming in contact with liquids.

So to be on the save side, it is best to seal them. - and mind you that it has to be a spray seal as a brush on sealer might dissolve the paint again. 8)

regards
Thomas