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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: WuZhuiQiu on February 18, 2012, 12:56:42 AM

Title: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on February 18, 2012, 12:56:42 AM

Has anybody tried using Death in the Dark Continent for a slightly earlier period, i.e. the late 1500s, when the Wazunga would have had matchlocks and worn armour? I would be interested in gaming (say) the Portuguese with or vs. the Kongo Kingdom.

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 18, 2012, 09:45:11 PM

I'm planning to do that.  :D

I wrote a couple of articles on the subject and have some unfinished papers somewhere but here are the links to my blog:
http://soldadopratico.blogspot.com/2005/12/kongo-of-darkness.html
http://soldadopratico.blogspot.com/2005/12/armies-of-16th-century-central-west.html

Other useful links:
http://www.cabinda.net/Cabinda5.html
http://www.balagan.org.uk/war/new-world/africa/index.htm

The East African expeditions are also very interesting. Not only Cristóvão da Gama's Abyssinia expedition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian%E2%80%93Adal_war) but especially Francisco Barreto's  expedition to the Monomotapa (Great Zimbabwe): http://www.rhodesia.nl/theal_3_202.htm

Mark Copplestone started some figures and still has the sculpts but isn't interested in returning to the Conquistadores project (Foundry issues?). Eureka has some fine Portuguese for the period that are perfect for such a project but you'll need lots of natives...

Brazil is also on the pipeline... If anyone has Foundry Afro-Caribbean Renegades or Copplestone Indians to sell send me a PM.

Cheers

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: Lorrainelovesgary on February 21, 2012, 03:06:35 PM

Hi,

 Are these "Afro-Caribbean Renegades" perchance  ? ?

(http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg507/lorrainelovesgary/PC290011.jpg)

There are 45 of `em I think but sadly NO quivers for the bowmen : ( 
Also a bit of flash on some though they look like they should clean up just dandy,

Cheers !  Gary

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: Galloping Major on February 21, 2012, 06:08:44 PM

Yes Gary, they are  ;)

Cheers,
Lance


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: Lorrainelovesgary on February 21, 2012, 08:32:49 PM

Outstanding visual acuity lance ! Will sleep more soundly knowing you are out there watching my back.

 Gary  :)

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on February 22, 2012, 03:13:51 AM

Would you be selling them, perchance...?

I recognize your handle from the bay beyond dee bay...

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: Lorrainelovesgary on February 22, 2012, 10:23:55 AM

........Ahhh we did once sail The Bay Beyond Dee , happy days ! Then the sailing fees increased, our little boat was holed and sank, ( it was full of lead ) so we sail there no more  :'( . Perhaps we shall one day refloat her.....

As for the minis I'm open to offers  :)

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on February 22, 2012, 01:28:58 PM

@Kingscarbine: Thanks for those details! Do you think that the Afro-Caribbeans might also be used as Kongo troops who have undergone some Portuguese influence?

@Gary: PM sent, but please give Kingscarbine first priority.

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 22, 2012, 05:24:52 PM

Quote from: Lorrainelovesgary on February 22, 2012, 10:23:55 AM

........Ahhh we did once sail The Bay Beyond Dee , happy days ! Then the sailing fees increased, our little boat was holed and sank, ( it was full of lead ) so we sail there no more  :'( . Perhaps we shall one day refloat her.....

As for the minis I'm open to offers  :)

No more The Bay Beyond Dee for me...  :-[

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 22, 2012, 06:16:25 PM

Quote from: WuZhuiQiu on February 22, 2012, 01:28:58 PM

@Kingscarbine: Thanks for those details! Do you think that the Afro-Caribbeans might also be used as Kongo troops who have undergone some Portuguese influence?

@Gary: PM sent, but please give Kingscarbine first priority.

Gary's figures just fired up the market... :D I suppose some can be used as a Kongolese noble's bodyguards but I never planned to used them as such.

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: Kingscarbine on April 03, 2012, 02:21:08 PM

An interesting account of an Englishman's adventures in late 16th and early 17th c. Angola and Congo:
http://www.erbzine.com/mag18/battell.htm#(95)

Title: Re: Peers' Death in the Dark Continent: Extending it back to the late 1500s?
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on April 04, 2012, 03:01:55 AM

Thanks, Kingscarbine! I'll have to read it soon.