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Title: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: janner on February 26, 2012, 09:50:55 AM
A small unit of nine light horse with full command for my English HYW force. Given that my army is based on the Advance Guard from the march to Calais in 1415, I went for Gilbert de Umfraville's livery (to match a unit of dismounted archers under the good 'earl of Kyme' himself).

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/DSCF0854.jpg)

One figure type was scupted with a crossbow windless. So that obviously had to go and has been replaced by a longbow - well some brass rod wrapped in paper. Gilbert is listed as having 20 men-at-arms and 90 horsed archers at the start of the campaign. Now arguably this definition was possibly driven by how much they were paid and, as no mounted scouts are listed, I think it's reasonable to argue that some of those mounted archers were actually hobilars or scurriers - especially given some of the Umfraville family estates were up on the Scots borders.

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/DSCF0864.jpg)

In addition to fighting my Capetian usurpers, these may well also be facing some of the lovely new Claymore Castings' Scots in due course  ;)

The buildings in the background are from the Grand Manner Dark Ages range, but are fine for rural France c. 1415.
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: Ray Rivers on February 26, 2012, 10:33:17 AM
Love your Medieval minis, mate!  :-*

Looking forward to seeing the Scots!
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: Silent Invader on February 26, 2012, 12:13:56 PM
Very nice.  I enjoy following your work.  8)
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: Mr.J on February 26, 2012, 12:40:16 PM
Looking good! I really enjoy your posts.
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: Marine0846 on February 26, 2012, 03:18:22 PM
Very well painted figures.
Lots of great looking figures on your blog.
Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: DFlynSqrl on February 26, 2012, 03:28:13 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: Malamute on February 26, 2012, 06:16:39 PM
Great stuff ;D
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: Captain Blood on February 26, 2012, 06:18:07 PM
Lovely Steve. Great looking bunch  :)
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: janner on February 26, 2012, 07:45:38 PM
Not quite to your standard yet, Cap'n, but improving  ;)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/DSCF0876.jpg)
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: valleyboy on February 26, 2012, 08:22:21 PM
You've got an impressive collection by now I think, look forward to seeing even more
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: OSHIROmodels on February 26, 2012, 08:25:52 PM
Very nice Steve  :-*

Not bloody samurai though are they  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: janner on February 27, 2012, 07:25:28 AM
True matey, I just needed a break from wall to wall Ashigaru  lol

Three units (60 figs) down, one more unit of yari to go and then it's the big boys  :)

Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 28, 2012, 07:06:10 PM
Very decent painting, Janner, also very nice horses.
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: Ehouarn on March 11, 2012, 05:27:28 AM
Very good painting  :-*

Can you tell us from wich factory are this figs ?  o_o
Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: Atheling on March 11, 2012, 05:34:30 AM
Superb stuff mate  ;D.

As well as the great painting I love the way you have added the canvas bags for the selfbows  8) 8) 8).

Fab stuff and I'll keep watching for more news of how Gilbert de Umfravill's advance guard develope on your blog, which I heartily recommend for others:

http://jannersjaunt.blogspot.com/

Darrell.

Title: Re: Gilbert de Umfraville's scurriers
Post by: Colonel Tubby on March 11, 2012, 01:25:09 PM
Great looking figures (and buildings for that matter) and I hope you post more soon.
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: janner on May 25, 2012, 01:41:05 PM
With no distractions, the latest unit is close to completion. There's just the small matter of fixing a flag to a pole and tidying up.

Here's a bit of a preview:

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/DSCF0883.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/DSCF0884.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/DSCF0887.jpg)

Usual unit history once the unit is ready. Have a great weekend!
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Malamute on May 25, 2012, 05:59:53 PM
Excellent, the church is great too. :)
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: painterman on May 25, 2012, 06:28:25 PM
Janner
Really lovely figures and terrain too.
Simon.
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Silent Invader on May 25, 2012, 07:20:08 PM
I echo Simon...... lovely minis and terrrain.  8) :-* 8)

How big will the army be and how far off is completion?
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Gibby on May 26, 2012, 12:59:22 AM
Stunning! I much prefer this war to the Wars of the Roses so it's refreshing to see some HYW stuff!
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: janner on May 26, 2012, 07:52:49 AM
Thank's all - I can't take credit for the church though. Treated myself to one of Grand Manner's painted ones  :-*

The HYW is fascinating, but I also have some WotR minis shouting for some attention - and then there are the new castings from Claymore...
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: janner on May 26, 2012, 09:40:16 AM
I echo Simon...... lovely minis and terrrain.  8) :-* 8)

How big will the army be and how far off is completion?

Sorry, I missed that one in my last post.

Two units to go to take me to 2750 pts as per the new WAB lists: another unit of archers and the Duke of York's household (dismounted). The Valois army is in a similar position with one unit of twenty-four dismounted men-at-arms and a handful of heavy horse to paint. That's not to say that I wont add the odd unit (such as militia for the French) or figure (still thinking about which figure would be best for Gilbert de Umfraville) in due course.

Then of course, there's the small issue of a Scottish army c.1400  :o

Regards,
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Captain Blood on May 26, 2012, 10:25:07 AM
Very nice looking unit Stephen.
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Dalauppror on May 26, 2012, 01:33:30 PM
Lovely paining Stephen !!!

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: janner on June 13, 2012, 01:57:42 PM
I'll get some proper shots done over the weekend, but here's the finished unit:

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/DSCF0898.jpg)

You'll see the odd change from the preview shots above. Whilst perhaps accurate, I felt some of the figures looked a bit jestereque, so repainted the odd set of hoes  ;)
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Engel on June 13, 2012, 03:06:49 PM
Wow, what a nice unit. The Banner is perfect.
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Captain Blood on June 13, 2012, 03:09:15 PM
That's a nice looking banner!  :-*
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Paul on June 13, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
Cracking looking unit!!  :-*
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Axebreaker on June 13, 2012, 03:25:06 PM
Very nice work and like the others said the banner looks just great! 8) 8)

Christopher
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Dr. The Viking on June 13, 2012, 03:35:13 PM
Lovely painting going on here! Show me some day.  lol
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: janner on June 13, 2012, 03:58:40 PM
Thanks all, there's a Claymore minis flag under there somewhere, but when I sprayed varnished it the ink behaved very strangely. So I had to overpaint it - serves me right to trying to take a short cut :D

I had this problem before and so gave up on printed flags a while back. Maybe I should seal it with something for spraying?

Dr.V, both HYW armies aren't far from being finished and I've 'plans' to build a basic table over the summer. So if you fancy a trip up the road for some medieval action...

edit: or rather down the road ;)
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: CyberAlien312 on June 13, 2012, 04:00:49 PM
Very nice work painting those minis! They look fantastic! I can't believe I've never seen this thread before...
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: painterman on June 13, 2012, 06:14:06 PM
Great unit - I like the 3 ranks depth - makes it look right for HYW.
Simon.
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on June 13, 2012, 06:49:17 PM
Very nice work - well done!
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Dalauppror on June 13, 2012, 08:06:25 PM
Lovely unit Stephen !

Like your work on the heraldy, very impressive !

best regards Michael
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 13, 2012, 08:26:12 PM
As Simon says, the extra depth works a treat (the paintings not bad either  ;) ).

cheers

James
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: Little Odo on June 17, 2012, 08:06:36 AM
As others have commented - fantastic flag. The unit looks very good together. Nice work!
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies
Post by: janner on June 17, 2012, 09:32:09 AM
I know you've seen this already, but here is some background details and more photos

Sir Robert de Umfraville KG, c. 1363 - 27 Jan 1436

Governor of Roxborough castle 1399
Knight of the Garter 1399
Vice Admiral of England 1410 – 1436
Lord of Redesdale 1421 – 1436
Lord of Kyme 1421 – 1436

Son of Thomas de Umfraville, lord of Redesdale and grandson of Robert de Umfraville, earl of Angus, Robert is perhaps the most famous of all the Umfravilles and certainly one of the most vigorous.  His brother, Sir Thomas fought at Otterburn. Sykes claims that Robert was appointed Vice-Admiral of England by Richard II (1377 -1399), but Hedley believes he attained this position in 1410 and seems to have kept the title for the rest of his life.

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/9de916f3.jpg)

In 1399 Robert was made keeper of Roxburgh castle and created a Knight of the Garter after routing a Scottish raid near Fullhope Law. In 1400, Robert smashed a raiding party of 500 Scots who had come to raid, some 200 of whom were slain outright. Hedley says that on his appointment as Vice Admiral, Robert was given command of 10 ships with which he landed troops and plundered the Firth of Forth for 14 days. Also in 1410 he had sacked Peebles and burned down the market town in the company of his 18 year-old nephew Gilbert. In 1414 he was made receiver of customs at Berwick for life and given Warkworth castle as part of the attainder against the Duke of Northumberland.
Robert fought at the battle of Yeavering on 22 Jul 1415 before sailing to France to join Henry V at the siege of Harfleur. He, of course, took part in the battle of Agincourt - perhaps fighting alongside Gilbert with the vanguard and then right hand battle.

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/15739b11.jpg)

Robert would have inherited Redesdale and Kyme on the death of Gilbert at the battle of Baugé in 1421. Robert was the last of his line to hold Otterburn hall and the last Umfraville Lord of Redesdale. Elsdon Pele tower (which dates from the late 14th century) bears the Umfraville coat of arms and the inscription 'R. Dominus de REDE'. The 'R' probably stands for Robert.

Hedley, W. Percy, Northumberland Families, Vol. I (Newcastle, 1968).
Sykes, J., Northumberland and Durham Local Records, Vol. I (Newcastle, 1833).
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 17 Jun 2012
Post by: Mr.J on June 17, 2012, 10:38:09 AM
I love the history lessons that come with your posts. Another great looking unit. Any chance of a full army shot so far? And one of that lovely looking castle in the background?
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 17 Jun 2012
Post by: Mason on June 17, 2012, 10:39:21 AM
Only just caught on to this thread and bloody glad that I did!
Lovely looking army coming together there.

Great work on the heraldry and the flag!
 :-*

Looking forward to more updates.

Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 17 Jun 2012
Post by: Dalauppror on June 17, 2012, 02:41:46 PM
Very good vork Stephen !!!

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: janner on August 29, 2012, 09:48:50 PM
John Holland (18 Mar 1395 - 5 Aug 1447) was the second son of John Holland, duke of Exeter and earl of Huntingdon. His father had been implicated in the revolt against Henry IV, was executed for treason in 1400 and all his lands and titles were forfeit. John's elder brother, Richard also died in 1400. As a grandson of John of Gaunt, John Holland junior was Henry IV's nephew and, therefore, Henry V's cousin.

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/2006-01-01000014.jpg)

Although only twenty years old, John distinguished himself at the siege of Harfleur and at battle of Agincourt leading a retinue of some 20 men-at-arms and 60 foot archers. As a result, he was restored in blood, regained the earldom of Huntingdon and was made a Knight of the Garter the next year. He was to go on to become one of the English commanders in the latter part of the HYW, being made Lord High Admiral of England in 1435 and regaining the Dukedom of Exeter in 1439, the same year he was made the King's lieutenant in Aquitaine.

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/2006-01-01000023.jpg)

On his death, his son Henry became Duke of Exeter, but two of his natural sons (the 'bastards of Exeter') were to be active members of the Lancastrian cause, but are believed to have fallen at Towton (1461). I think they may well make an appearance in my planned WotR army ;-)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/Medievals/2006-01-01000213.jpg)

So another unit made up of figures from the Perry twins' Agincourt range in 28mm - a joy to paint  :grin:
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: Captain Blood on August 29, 2012, 09:51:09 PM
Excellent looking unit Stephen  :)
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: commissarmoody on August 29, 2012, 10:19:23 PM
Vary well done, and great history write up also. Looking forward to seeing he "Bastards" at a later date.
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: Atheling on August 30, 2012, 09:57:19 AM
Brill  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Keep 'em coming!!

Darrell.
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: Lowtardog on August 30, 2012, 10:26:10 AM
Jubblies, nice and battle hardened troops :-*
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: janner on August 30, 2012, 05:31:31 PM
Jubblies, nice and battle hardened troops :-*

Exactly, not a RAF-bloke in sight  lol lol
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: Dr. The Viking on August 30, 2012, 05:56:09 PM
Very nice paint work janner.

We should discuss playing with these figures again.  lol
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: Lowtardog on August 30, 2012, 06:06:20 PM
Exactly, not a RAF-bloke in sight  lol lol

Cheeky sod lol
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: Malamute on August 31, 2012, 08:15:47 AM
Very nicely done Stephen. :-*
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: janner on August 31, 2012, 03:01:45 PM
Very nciely done Stephen. :-*

Thanks for all the kind comments.

We now have a puppy, not a Malamute, but quite cute nether-the-less. However, we also now have a new dress code at Langelandsgade:

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/jannerxi/photo.jpg)
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 31, 2012, 05:34:35 PM
You need to see a manicurist...  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: Janner's Hundred Years War armies (WIP) - updated 29 Aug 2012
Post by: janner on August 31, 2012, 06:52:10 PM
You need to see a manicurist...  lol

cheers

James

At least you are only looking at men's hands these days...


 lol