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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Prof.Witchheimer on 13 March 2012, 11:46:07 AM
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I'm sure some of you know this site. I did not. The best painted Romans I've ever seen. An unbelievably high level of painting of Ancient armies. I'm more than impressed. If someone knows the guy, tell him, he is invited to LAF, he will get a honour place and food and drink for free if he comes :)
http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/
some expamples, but check the site, there are a lot more.
(http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/_Media/unitlowr_med.jpeg)
(http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/_Media/3cav1_med.jpeg)
(http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/_Media/auxilia3_med.jpeg)
(http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/_Media/gaetuli_med-2.jpeg)
(http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/_Media/rombigmen.jpeg)
(http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/_Media/savaran1_med-2.jpeg)
(http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/_Media/sassanidarmy1_med-2.jpeg)
(http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/_Media/dscf7569_med.jpeg)
(http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/_Media/dscf7561_med.jpeg)
(http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/_Media/dscf7553_med.jpeg)
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Wow! They are superb, love the Testudo :-*
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really well painted,oh wait theyre all Quick shaded? :o
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Yes, they are and I have to say, I never thought one could achieve that top notch quality using Quick Shade. Stunning!
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I've met (Dr) Phil Hendry. He's an absolutely top chap and these models look every bit as good 'in the flesh' as in his pics!! He's done some articles about Quickshade for Wargames Soldiers and Strategy magazine, which are worth reading.
Just goes to show, it's not so much just the resource you use or even the technique so much as the way you use those things.
I use Quickshade dip myself now for a lot of things and I can layer pretty darn well. For me, it's all about colour choice (lighter and brighter than you think you'd ever need!!) and being really neat with the base colour application, plus the best matte varnish you can find...Using LBM shield transfers also helps... I also highlight mine once with basecoat colours, but Phil doesn't do that (he uses a turps 'wipe' on the raised areas while the dip is tacky, I believe, which achieves a highlight effect. I also seem to recall reading that he dries the models in the oven (LOW heat!! :D) while the dip is drying...he must have an understanding wife!!)
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Now I'm embarrassed (why isn't there an embarrassed emoticon?). Alex sent me an email this morning to tell me he'd posted a load of my pictures here, and to invite me to join. So here I am, ready to be mocked, or whatever, for being such a blatant cheat when it comes to painting. ;)
Hello Andy <waves!>, how's life mate?
Cheers,
Phil
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Nothing wrong with quickshade, I've used it well diluted with varnish as a filter.
It's not like he's injecting testosterone lol
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Welcome, Phil, glad to see you’ve joined!
Any new stuff on your workbench? What next eye candies we could expect? ;D
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Beautiful figures, Phil. Even with the dip! ;)
As mentioned above, it's ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it. In your hands, the dip certainly looks a useful addition to the painter's arsenal.
Anyway, welcome.
Look forward to seeing more of your work and projects here, if you can tolerate the company :)
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Hi Phil
I have read that some Romans carried spare javelins in a large quiver but when I asked about this on some groups I was told that this was not so. I personally think they did have this and I am sure there is a sculpture out there somewhere showing a legionary with one on his back but I think it was in the east somewhere, I wish I had printed it out as I cannot find it. I have done some of my 10mm late Romans with them but then I decided I will not to put them in production; though I really do like the idea and am now thinking I may change my mind. I have also gone with my late Romans having a large quiver at their hip for their darts as some of the darts that they have now found are up to 18” long and one group in the Netherlands say they could have been longer.
Great photos and I enjoyed looking at your site, Thanks
Stephen
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I have read that some Romans carried spare javelins in a large quiver but when I asked about this on some groups I was told that this was not so. I personally think they did have this and I am sure there is a sculpture out there somewhere showing a legionary with one on his back but I think it was in the east somewhere, I wish I had printed it out as I cannot find it. I have done some of my 10mm late Romans with them but then I decided I will not to put them in production; though I really do like the idea and am now thinking I may change my mind. I have also gone with my late Romans having a large quiver at their hip for their darts as some of the darts that they have now found are up to 18” long and one group in the Netherlands say they could have been longer.
Great photos and I enjoyed looking at your site, Thanks
Thanks Stephen and everyone else for the kind welcome.
I haven't seen a sculpture of a Roman with a 'javelin quiver' on his back, however there is a sculpture from Apamea in Syria (dating to the third century AD), depicting a 'trainee lanciarius' (Aurelianus Mucianus), and he is holding a 'bundle' of javelins, the lower part of which is solid rather than showing the javelin shafts:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3035/3024196265_caf58c189d_o.jpg)
You could interpret that as a 'quiver' - something I chose to do with a unit of third century Romans I put together a while ago:
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd64/philhendry/Mesopotamia/lanciariiBs.jpg)
I figured they'd be most likely to have slung the quiver over a shoulder so as to have both hands free.
I hope this helps!
Cheers,
Phil
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Phil, I've slightly corrected the pic link in your post, now it works.
There also is another tombstone from Apamea depicting again a lanciarius with javelin quiver (Lucius Septimius Viator). And
And finally the modern interpretation based on these tombstones.
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The problem with Lucius Septimius Viator is that the handful of javelins look like just that - a handful of javelins, because the shafts appear to go all the way down - I see no evidence of them being 'in' any sort of container. So, personally speaking, I prefer not to use that sculpture as evidence for the existence of 'javelin quivers'. YMMV!
And it's always possible that the sculpture of Aurelianus Mucianus doesn't show one either - it may have been that the sculptor was too lazy to sculpt the shafts all the way down to the end, but that they were depicted in paint - which has, of course, eroded away. So nothing is certain!
Phil
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Agree, Phil, it actually looks more like a bunch of javelins, so it stays uncertain :)
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Thanks for the photos Phil/Prof, the one you list Phil shows two distinctive lines near the top and near the bottom making it look very much like a quiver. I do remember seeing this photo at the same time I saw the other one. I really wish I could remember the articale I saw it in but it was to do with the use of javerlins and darts in the late Roman Army.
Prof thanks for the drawing it is very intresting and I think it is from a book I have been trying to get for for quite some time now but I think it is out of print now.
Stephen
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Prof thanks for the drawing it is very intresting and I think it is from a book I have been trying to get for for quite some time now but I think it is out of print now.
it's still in stock, Stephen:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Roman-Military-Dress-Graham-Sumner/dp/0752445766/ref=pd_sim_b_3
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EnVgxrlQL._SS500_.jpg)
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Thanks Prof, it's mine now :D
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Great find Prof - I think I'm going to spend a fair amount of time on that site.
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Any new stuff on your workbench? What next eye candies we could expect? ;D
I'm about to start work on some gladiators (Crusader Miniatures) - whilst taking a break from working on my 'Dura Europos' walls.
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This is going to be good, I'm very keen to see gladiators painted by you.
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by the way, Phil, what matt varnish are you using? It seems to work very well.
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Welcome Phil
The prof is right, your Romans are superb
Good to see you here
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Hello Andy <waves!>, how's life mate?
Cheers,
Phil
Hello Phil
Great to see you here! This is pretty much the only forum I use these days... Lots of great people here and lots of eye candy!!
Am still painting, still gaming...just not doing either regularly, although I am in the middle of a cover vignette and article for WSS mag at the mo...
Cheers
Andy
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by the way, Phil, what matt varnish are you using? It seems to work very well.
Testors' Dull Cote, from a spray can. It's totally matt, and totally consistent in use... Because figures sprayed with it go straight in the oven at 55ºC for an hour - therefore no problems with humidity! One of the advantages of being a 'house-husband' is that the kitchen is my domain, so there are no complaints about me using it. ;)
Cheers,
Phil
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Great to see you here! This is pretty much the only forum I use these days... Lots of great people here and lots of eye candy!!
Am still painting, still gaming...just not doing either regularly, although I am in the middle of a cover vignette and article for WSS mag at the mo...
Cheers Andy, I shall look forward to seeing the cover and article - I'm sure they'll be great.
Phil
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Testors' Dull Cote, from a spray can. It's totally matt, and totally consistent in use... Because figures sprayed with it go straight in the oven at 55ºC for an hour - therefore no problems with humidity! One of the advantages of being a 'house-husband' is that the kitchen is my domain, so there are no complaints about me using it. ;)
in the oven? interesting, never tried it. Not sure if I get the reason, what problems would you have with humidity?
And how many spraying steps do you need with Testors? Only one? I'm using the Army-Painter anti-shine, but have to spray the figures at least two times.
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in the oven? interesting, never tried it. Not sure if I get the reason, what problems would you have with humidity?
And how many spraying steps do you need with Testors? Only one? I'm using the Army-Painter anti-shine, but have to spray the figures at least two times.
Dull Cote has a reputation for 'misting' if the atmosphere is damp. I live in Lancaster, one of the wettest places in the UK - it's always humid here, even if it isn't actually raining. So putting the figures in the oven gets around that problem.
I just give the figures (after the 'Quick Shade' has dried fully) a single light 'squirt' of Dull Cote. That seems to be sufficient to make them properly matt.
Cheers,
Phil
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Understand now. I've had that misting of varnish as well but rather due to putting too much of it on the figures. So you're not using a clear varnish before making them matt? I guess using "Quick Shade" replaces that step.
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Understand now. I've had that misting of varnish as well but rather due to putting too much of it on the figures. So you're not using a clear varnish before making them matt? I guess using "Quick Shade" replaces that step.
Yes, Quick Shade appears to be virtually 'bomb-proof' when dry, so I don't bother with a clear varnish before the Dull Cote - except on shield transfers (which don't get any Quick Shade to protect them).
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Have you tried a hair dryer instead of the oven?
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Have you tried a hair dryer instead of the oven?
No! Reason being that, when I was working in the lab, we used hair dryers to warm up bits of apparatus that had been dipped in liquid Nitrogen - we had to be careful because we found that hair dryers are capable of melting soft solder (which is a very similar alloy to white metal). So I wouldn't dare use a hair dryer to dry my figures! The oven is much more controllable.
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Just to let you know that my website has moved... Apple's 'MobileMe' service ends at the end of June, and is being replaced by the far less useful 'iCloud' (which, amongst other things, doesn't have any web-hosting facilities). So I've bought a domain name, and moved myself over to MacMate - a UK-based replacement for MobileMe. My website, which is still pretty much the same as it was before, is here:
http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/ (http://www.philhendry.me.uk/Phil_Wargaming_Website/)
My old, old, website (the original one), will only exist until the end of June - so if there's anything you want, get over there quick and grab it:
http://web.me.com/philhendry/iWeb/PCHWargaming/Wargaming.html (http://web.me.com/philhendry/iWeb/PCHWargaming/Wargaming.html)
Cheers,
Phil
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thanks for letting us know, Phil, I've changed the links in my initial post.
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Just had a look at your very nicely painted and presented miniatures Phil. Very impressive and inspiring.
I have taken the plunge and started to build a fantasy army based around late Romans. I am using the Gripping Beast Saxon Thegns plastics, West Wind Arthurian heads and Gripping Beast late Roman Shields.
I certainly will be using your images as reference and inspriation.