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Title: Wild West of Argentina
Post by: axabrax on 15 March 2012, 03:08:22 PM

Sorry if this doesn't go under Age of Big Battalions, but I'm assuming it's a cognate for Napoleonics based on the uniforms.

I saw this book, Sabres Across The Pampa (http://www.theminiaturespage.com/news/2041634241/),  advertised on TMP and thought it looked interesting, but the advert says very little about the subject. Anyone know of any good overviews of the subject aside from this volume? Also, I vaguely recall someone was doing a miniature range in 28mm for this, but for the life of me I can't remember who...

Thanks, AX

Title: Re: Wild West of Argentina
Post by: Marine0846 on 15 March 2012, 05:26:50 PM

There is an interesting movie, filmed about 1966.
Starred Robert Taylor, set in 1870 Argentina.
It was called "Savage Pampas."
As I remember it was a pretty good movie.

Title: Re: Wild West of Argentina
Post by: carlos marighela on 15 March 2012, 08:35:27 PM

For the later campaigns you'll find quite a bit in Spanish. Try googling conquista del desierto or guerra del desierto.

Here's a Wiki entry in English  to get you started.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_the_Desert

Like all such wiki entries you'll get much more detail in the original language:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquista_del_Desierto

The slightly earlier Chilean campaigns against the Mapuche

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocupaci%C3%B3n_de_la_Araucan%C3%ADa

Good little doco on this from a  series on Argentine history which gives an overview from the end of the 18th C. (in Spanish)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJdaTnJYH5U&feature=related

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X-stcX27lk&feature=related

All in all it's a pretty squalid tale.

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: Wild West of Argentina
Post by: axabrax on 15 March 2012, 11:46:40 PM

Thanks for the info

Title: Re: Wild West of Argentina
Post by: Alejandro on 16 March 2012, 01:33:29 PM

I am from Argentina.
We have a different "old west", it was not like USA.
First of all,the center of the country were only the D.C. (Ciudad de Buenos Aires), the other regions were country terrain, with cows, and vegetables (agrarian production).
We had not got "Desperados" or Cowboys.

We had Gauchos.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gaucho1868b.jpg

Later, the army start a war, the "conquest of the desert". A military campain that killed many Indians, it was bad.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:La_conquista_del_desierto.jpg

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Infanteria_de_linea.jpg

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1897_mapuche_500.jpg

In the end of the XIX century, we received "bandoleros", and robers from USA, they went to the Patagonia (is in the south), cold, sheeps, snow....

Bye.