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Title: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: Frigo97 on March 25, 2012, 03:46:50 PM
Since yesterday I knew there are the new colours of Citadel: they are divided in 6 category for facilitate the painting for the principiant, too.
But I think that will disappear the cleverness and the learning by errors.
I think also that it a way for gain much money, because a painter who wants to paint the minis very good needs all the colours...
Than : it's a good or bad thing?
Talk about!
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: YPU on March 25, 2012, 04:33:19 PM
IF they indeed do what they say they do, then I guess having these would not be a bad thing. This being the evil empire I would be pessimistic but besides the price gw paints have been getting better over the years I feel, washes were indeed pretty darn good, the foundation paints do what they should, even liquid greenstuff wasn't as horrendous as we thought it would be.
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: Dewbakuk on March 25, 2012, 04:58:25 PM
Liquid greenstuff is brilliant. It's not going to fill any big gaps for you but it does well on cracks. What I've found it most useful for however is adding buttons etc to coats! You just put a row of dots on with a paintbrush. I've even used it to add hair to a figure after chopping wires etc off their head. Just put two coats on and as the second one was setting I ran the brush over it again to add texture.

The foundation paints were pretty good so adding more colours to it can't be a bad thing.
Some washes were better than others so it remains to be seen if the extra new ones will be of any real use.
The standard range wasn't very good in my opinion, you could get better paints from other companies so they needed to change them.

I think also that it a way for gain much money, because a painter who wants to paint the minis very good needs all the colours...


It's a business, they need to make money. All the very good painters I know use paints from many different companies (inc the GW fanboys) and only buy the colours they want to use. Most of them mix their own colours while painting anyway so I don't see any need to buy all the colours.
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: Kitsune on March 26, 2012, 08:51:27 AM
Fairly apathetic about another change of the GW colour names on thier paints. £2.30 going up to £2.50 is past my point of purchase when Vallejo is out there.
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: joroas on March 26, 2012, 09:08:28 AM
Well, any new range of paints is always handy.  Like others I accumulated a lot of paints on EBay and shows when they were cheap, so i have a huge collection in reserve.

The main use of GW is that it is the easiest place for most of us to pick up odd paints in a hurry.

The liquid green stuff I use to fill small joints, very handy and very easy to use.
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: Kitsune on March 26, 2012, 09:13:03 AM
Deal or no deal?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat470002a&prodId=prod1560002a

"free" case - ha!
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: TheShadow on March 26, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
roll on my local toymaster selling off the old paints at a quid a pop ! i remember getting lucky one day when they had foundation paints at 0.80p each because they werent selling at all.....!
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: Bobble on March 26, 2012, 10:37:17 AM
Well my humble opinion on this is that if these paints do "what they say on the tin" then they will be very useful for us mere mortals,who dont have the painting skills of some of the LAF gods,to get some reasonably well painted figures onto the gaming tables.
I have always been of the opinion that the Citadel Washes were one of my best friends as they not only helped to shade but also to cover a multitude of sins when it comes to the standard of my painting. I am not a big fan of Games Workshop as I find that their range of minis is both expensive and not,usually,to my taste but I have always liked their paints as they are easy to get hold of and,to be honest,are pretty much all I've ever used (tried Vallejo a couple of times but was not overly impressed,Im afraid)
Just my opinion of course and everyone will have their own but anything that can potentially make the life of a struggling wargamer just that little bit easier and can be found by most of us in our own towns has got to be worth trying
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: answer_is_42 on March 26, 2012, 11:03:53 AM
Fairly apathetic about another change of the GW colour names on thier paints. £2.30 going up to £2.50 is past my point of purchase when Vallejo is out there.
£2.50? Yeah, that's me out. So, here we are. GW have finally raised their prices across everything to the point I can't justify buying anything from them at all!

Fun.
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: joroas on March 26, 2012, 11:31:30 AM
Haven't bought any figures from there for a while, but they are always handy for the odd paint or two.
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: Hammers on March 26, 2012, 12:02:28 PM
Deal or no deal?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat470002a&prodId=prod1560002a

"free" case - ha!

Free case or not...

All 216 Reaper Master paints at £415 = £ 0,50 1,92 per pot (sorry, I should not have breakfasted on a bottle of Chivas...)

All 145 Citadel pots at £ 333 = 2.30 per pot.
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: Mr.Marx on March 26, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Free case or not...

All 216 Reaper Master paints at £415 = £ 0.50 per pot

All 145 Citadel pots at £ 333 = 2.30 per pot.

...and the Reaper Master Series is probably the set of paints that Ive ever used....and the half-wife got them a fair bit cheaper than that by shipping them over from the states when they had an offer on  :D

MM
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: black hat miniatures on March 26, 2012, 12:51:05 PM
Free case or not...

All 216 Reaper Master paints at £415 = £ 0.50 per pot

All 145 Citadel pots at £ 333 = 2.30 per pot.

erm... £415 / 216 = £1.92 a pot....

Coat D'arms paints - all 150 for £265 = £1.77 a pot...

Mike
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: Hammers on March 26, 2012, 01:18:02 PM
Liquid greenstuff is brilliant. It's not going to fill any big gaps for you but it does well on cracks. What I've found it most useful for however is adding buttons etc to coats! You just put a row of dots on with a paintbrush. I've even used it to add hair to a figure after chopping wires etc off their head. Just put two coats on and as the second one was setting I ran the brush over it again to add texture.

The foundation paints were pretty good so adding more colours to it can't be a bad thing.
Some washes were better than others so it remains to be seen if the extra new ones will be of any real use.
The standard range wasn't very good in my opinion, you could get better paints from other companies so they needed to change them.

It's a business, they need to make money. All the very good painters I know use paints from many different companies (inc the GW fanboys) and only buy the colours they want to use. Most of them mix their own colours while painting anyway so I don't see any need to buy all the colours.

This. ^

I would not exchange the Citadel Blood Red and their three yellows for anything else on the market right now. Same goes for a couple of the washes.
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: john Hollyoak on March 26, 2012, 04:44:43 PM
Well I use the washes by the bucket and love em so I am looking forward to some more. Anybody know when they are due out?
I am no GW fanboy but am always bemused by the pricing outcry. How many of us have a pile of money invested in figures that will never get painted, yet moan about an extra 50p for a pot of paint.

john
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: phreedh on March 26, 2012, 09:17:39 PM
Whine about pricing? In Sweden the price of a pot of Citadel paint is £3,25! =( Still, I think their foundation paints and recent washes were real gems assisting my painting a lot! If nothing else, I look forward to having more "foundation" paints to choose from and also the return of glazes.

Only thing (in this matter) I'm confused by is the different metallics. Now there are base, layer and dry "boltgun metal".  o_o
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: Blackwolf on March 27, 2012, 09:35:35 AM
I'm looking forward to the new paints,for one thing I like trying out new shades et cetera,and whilst I probably only use about 15 actual colours on my palette, I can't help buying more.......and compared to what one can spend on brushes(I spent 128 dollars Aus. for 5 Raphael last week),the price isn't so bad. And as Hammers says GW do,do some good colours(hope they remain good).

 Cheers

 Wolfie
Title: Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
Post by: stone-cold-lead on March 27, 2012, 10:16:56 AM
Changing the names is a mild and temporary pain in ass, or at least it will be when I finally have to replace the few GW paints that I do use. Generally though I think the re-organised range should help a lot of painters who rely on GW paints. Expanding the foundation range is a good thing although the price versus volume of paint issue (nevermind the wastage problems associated with flip top pots) does begin to hit home if you rely heavily on a few colours.