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Title: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 30 March 2012, 10:42:11 AM
I'm expanding my Imperial troops with another cavalry regiment for when we play BP games rather than TS&TF. My army flits between 2nd Afghan War/Malakand and the Sudan campaigns to fit in games against my club-mates' Tribes, Mahdists etc

I'm wanting a 2nd cavalry regiment but i'm undecided whether to go (17th or 21st) Lancers or (19th) Hussars). Or a Bombay Lancer regiment

On balance i would imagine that an Indian Regiment would fit in more with the generic theme. My other Imperial cavalry is Indian though.

Thoughts gentlemen please. I'm thinking Foundry or Perry figures to mix with what i have (incl OG)

Thanks

James

Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: Tommy20 on 30 March 2012, 04:23:34 PM
Don't forget Castaway Arts!
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 30 March 2012, 04:24:26 PM
Those Bengal Lancers look nice but unless they have a UK supplier ...
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: inkydave on 30 March 2012, 06:55:36 PM
If North star do mounted versions of their rather tasty 7th Hussars they might fit the bill for the NWF.
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: jamesmanto on 31 March 2012, 01:50:25 AM
Well how historically accurate do you want to be?

Always room for another Bengal Lancer regiment. British cavalry regiments apparently were used for interior garrison work and didn't see much of the Frontier. Although in the Sudan and S. Africa you've got lots of space for British cavalry.

I have the Old Glory Boer War British lancers and like them. Also the British dragoons and Mtd Inf in slouch hats. Although the Perry and Empress lancers are very tasty.

James
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 31 March 2012, 07:15:54 AM
If North star do mounted versions of their rather tasty 7th Hussars they might fit the bill for the NWF.

Indeed. I was going to add these to Perry mounted Hussars. I still might
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 31 March 2012, 07:24:41 AM
Well how historically accurate do you want to be?

Always room for another Bengal Lancer regiment. British cavalry regiments apparently were used for interior garrison work and didn't see much of the Frontier. Although in the Sudan and S. Africa you've got lots of space for British cavalry.

I have the Old Glory Boer War British lancers and like them. Also the British dragoons and Mtd Inf in slouch hats. Although the Perry and Empress lancers are very tasty.

James

I may have my hand forced on this.  :D

I'm looking at expanding my Hill Tribes with some Afghan Regular units. That would narrow my collection,, in theory  ;), to the 2nd Anglo-Afghan War

In which case ... i could be very tempted by those Empress Lancers. It would be a welcome break from all the khaki on the Piffers, Guide Cavalry, Yorks & Lancs and Highlanders (Camerons)

I'm much more a gamer than painter or purist. I like things to be in the right ball-park but i wouldn't lose any sleep about having British Cavalry on the Malakand campaign ,for instance, if that's all i had to use
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 31 March 2012, 09:02:51 AM
I fear that the Afghan Regulars (OOP Tiger Miniatures] may be too late for my preferred period of 2nd Anglo-Afghan War after all.

This is what comes of having friends who are doing both sides of the Sikh Wars, Indian Mutiny and 1st Sudan and me stuck in the middle with Pathans and British/Indians

Perry Bengal Lancers would be the safe choice i think for the NWF 1870/1900 which is where i'm at really (but i really wanted British Cavalry [sniff!]). Could i mix Sikh and Muslim BL's in the same unit?
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: Plynkes on 31 March 2012, 09:42:29 AM
...used for interior garrison work and didn't see much of the Frontier.

The 21st Lancers got into a couple of stiff fights with the Mohmands. There was dismounted action, artillery fire, a village fight, machine guns, and a lance charge across a flooded field and a canal(!). As was their style, the 21st bungled it slightly, but came out on top.

Unfortunately all this was in 1915, so a little outside your period of interest, H.M.
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: jamesmanto on 31 March 2012, 04:49:17 PM
<q>I'm much more a gamer than painter or purist. I like things to be in the right ball-park but i wouldn't lose any sleep about having British Cavalry on the Malakand campaign ,for instance, if that's all i had to use</q>

Well then I'd go with the Empress lancers!  :D

They're so gorgeous it'd be churlish of anyone to argue about whether they should actually be there!
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: The Gray Ghost on 01 April 2012, 12:15:33 AM
My other Imperial cavalry is Indian though.

then I would go with a British unit.
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 01 April 2012, 04:03:32 PM
So, if i theme my Imperial force on the 2nd Afghan War, i can stick in those lovely Empress Lancers. I think we have a winner  :D
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 02 April 2012, 09:13:51 AM
I fear that the Afghan Regulars (OOP Tiger Miniatures] may be too late for my preferred period of 2nd Anglo-Afghan War after all...
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Happy days!! It sounds like the Afghan Regulars are for 1880/90 which is bang on for me [rubs hands]
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: carlos marighela on 03 April 2012, 10:21:34 AM
If North star do mounted versions of their rather tasty 7th Hussars they might fit the bill for the NWF.

Wow never knew these existed. With a little work they might be just the ticket for Venezuela 1895 or Burma.
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: argsilverson on 03 April 2012, 10:26:01 AM
If you want to twist the time a little (as I always do) I think you should add the newly arrived Hyderabad cavalry by mutineer miniatures. They look splendid.
http://www.mutineerminiatures.com/catalog/11
check also their mutineers. They have some interesting personalities and maybe some irregulars to mix with your native indian forces.

I would also like to recommend to you, if you do not already know, for some more inspiration on the Indian fronts check also:
http://generalpettygree.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 03 April 2012, 10:43:03 AM
Hi Argsilverson

My Colonial Project started life as Nicholson's Flying Column at the Seige of Dehli with OG Sikh and Pathan figures (with a dash of Foundry)

Since then, i've added Perry & Foundry British Infantry & Highlanders in Pith/khaki

So i'm creeping away from IM towards 2nd Anglo-Afghan War ... particularly as i may be investing in some Afghan Regulars (1880/1890s uniform) to go with my Pathans

That said, as my gaming buddies have forces for the Sikh Wars, Mutiny and Sudan, my Imperials (with or without Hill Tribe allies) will see plenty of action with appropriate British types for the period

Many thanks for the Links

James
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 03 April 2012, 08:01:30 PM
Ohh i don't think so! £42 plus P&P for those 12 x Empress Lancers :o

As nice as they are, erm, no
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 04 April 2012, 12:08:30 PM

Perry Bengal Lancers would be the safe choice i think for the NWF 1870/1900 which is where i'm at really. Could i mix Sikh and Muslim BL's in the same unit?

Bengal Lancers from the twins it is
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: Tommy20 on 04 April 2012, 04:37:18 PM
You can't go wrong with the Perrys...
Title: Re: British/India Cavalry for NWF and Sudan ... decisions decisons
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 04 April 2012, 04:39:25 PM
You can't go wrong with the Perrys...

I agree - their Sudan British are lovely figures.

There comes a point that you have to draw a line on figures. And i think i just found it