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Title: Wings of War
Post by: dominic on 20 January 2008, 06:17:53 PM
After being introduced to Wings of War this weekend by Grimm (part of the Lead Adventurer Weekend in Halle), I got hooked and rushed out to buy my own Deluxe set!  

The game is really fun and is a very playable simulation of WW1 aerial combat.  Each player has a deck of maneuver cards that represent all possible maneuvers that his particular class of plane can do - climb, dive, stall, barrel roll, turn, slip, Immelmann and so on.  Some plane classes can out-turn others, some can only turn better on one side and not so good on the other side.

As movt is simultaneous, players plot 3 movements per turn in secret, then uncover their cards when all players are ready to move.  When planes come into shooting range of each other, the target player has to draw 1 or 2 damage cards according to the range that he is being shot at.  Damage cards could range from no damage, shooter's gun jam, a number representing the number of damage points lost, pilot wound, engine damage, to an outright kill.

The Deluxe set includes 4 painted 1/144 aircraft models - a Sopwith Camel, the Red Baron's Fokker DR1, an Albatross and a Spad.

(http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic244532_md.jpg)
(http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic267739_md.jpg)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Darren on 20 January 2008, 06:21:56 PM
It's a great game - it's started to become really popular at my gaming club now.  The additional rules for height and cloud cover make it very tactical.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Mosstrooper on 20 January 2008, 06:56:35 PM
Brilliant game !, been trying to do WW1 areial for about 30 years and have tried about every system out there at one time or the other and think this game with its symplicity beats them all !
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Rhoderic on 20 January 2008, 06:57:45 PM
I've been totally in the dark about this game but have been hearing the name mentioned a lot over the past few weeks. It must have hit during my recent off-period from the hobby, or something. Is it a collectible game or what? How much money do you have to spend to get into it?

Edit: Also, does that map come with the game and how big is it? I could use that for Aeronef as well...
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Mosstrooper on 20 January 2008, 07:01:25 PM
Basic game about £25 and uses cards to represent aircraft, pre painted aircraft about £6 or £7 , and in my veiw realy bring the game to life
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Plynkes on 20 January 2008, 07:04:52 PM
This has been a bit of a WOW week here at Schloss Plynkes, too. One of my gaming gang, the esteemed Wakey, brought me a late Christmas gift (hadn't seen him since before Christmas).

This year it wasn't a fog machine but the Burning Drachens box (I already have Famous Aces plus all the models). Top-hole! Full marks, Wakey! Also this week after months of waiting my new HOTZ MATS felt mat arrived, one with a patchwork of fields on it, making it great for use with WOW.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: jnr on 20 January 2008, 07:08:35 PM
I thought about taking it up, but found out every were I looked it was sold out, never did buy it.
But here is a link to the rules if any wish to look at them, or down load them.
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/wingsofwarsupport.html
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Plynkes on 20 January 2008, 07:09:51 PM
What's that the models are sitting on, Dom? Does the deluxe set come with its own mat? Looks very much like the artwork on the plane, movement and ground target cards.


Edit: Jnr, how long ago was that? I had the same problem a while ago, you couldn't get anything WOW anywhere. Then all of a sudden all the retailers  had it in stock again, as if the manufacturers had done a second production run or something. Have you tried looking again lately?
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Lowtardog on 20 January 2008, 07:14:35 PM
A dashed fun game all I can say is if you havent played it, do :)

Tally ho Smoke me a Kipper I`ll be back for breakfast :D

There is also the Italian site which has some stuff and fluff on it

http://www.wingsofwar.it/list.asp

which also links to a Yahoo group :mrgreen:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/wow_nexus/
Title: Wings of War
Post by: jnr on 20 January 2008, 07:18:25 PM
Think oct or early nov is when i tryed to buy it. I may go into it as some people in gaming club play it, but i have few other things to get done frist.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: dominic on 20 January 2008, 07:27:46 PM
@Plynkes - that pic is taken off the web somewhere.  Don't know what they used for the mat.  We are thinking of using a blown-up b&w aerial photo of a WW1 battlefield as a mat!

@jnr - you can get a copy off eBay.  Lots of game shops selling their stuff there, including Wings of War and the mini planes.

Has anyone tried the WW2 set - Dawn of War?
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Paul Hicks on 20 January 2008, 07:47:24 PM
I got my copy of WOW via Amazon and love it.

Paul
Title: Wings of War
Post by: dominic on 20 January 2008, 07:54:48 PM
Poliorketes reminded me of this old song last night.  It'll really put you in the mood for a dogfight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxzg_iM-T4E&feature=related
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Helen on 20 January 2008, 09:01:28 PM
Hi Dominic,

Thanks mate  for sharing your thoughts on this game. It does look great and I'll mention this to our gamers group on Thursday night.

Cheers from Downunder 8)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: General M@yhem on 20 January 2008, 11:58:39 PM
Bugger!
Just got it but didn't realize there was a deluxe set which came with the model planes. Oh well. :roll:
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Big Guy on 21 January 2008, 03:29:11 AM
I didn't know about the deluxe set but the normal sets are selling well here, every one seems to own at least one model and it makes a nice little filler if your game ends early or you are waiting for some one.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Jules on 21 January 2008, 07:01:57 AM
I am so depressed I got this for christmas and still my family will not play it with me... :(
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 22 January 2008, 01:15:41 PM
Ordered mine on Sunday, got it today
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Jules on 22 January 2008, 03:26:59 PM
result...I talked my twelve year old daughter into a game and now she wants to play again today :)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 22 January 2008, 03:35:58 PM
Quote from: "Jules"
result...I talked my twelve year old daughter into a game and now she wants to play again today :)


Congrats! I'll pressgang my niece into a game this evening
Title: Wings of War
Post by: fho on 22 January 2008, 05:35:27 PM
We had a 8 player game with my work mates before the Christmas. Two teams trying shoot each other down. System scales nicely with more players. You don't need to wait other players turn as stuff happens at the same time.

Had plenty of fun, especially when none had played it before (except me). Check the plane in upper left corner with his initial movement. Uups, I'm scared, going back home :)

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/fhoo/wow.jpg)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 22 January 2008, 07:37:11 PM
Second series will be available soon, it seems. There'll be the Airco/De Havilland DH4, the Sopwith Snipe, the Roland CII and the Fokker D VII. Pictures are available here:
http://giochinscatola.it/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=wings+of+war&x=0&y=0
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Plynkes on 22 January 2008, 07:52:16 PM
Coo. More shiny toys for me throw money at.

I hope one day they'll go back in time a bit. I'd dearly like to see pusher props vs. the Fokker Scourge.

Edit: I suppose pusher props would be too fragile to make into those kinds of models, what with their nacelle and tailplane construction with not much more than wire and tent-poles in between.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Big Guy on 23 January 2008, 07:56:53 AM
Skytrex do a couple, you just need to work out the flight decks.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: dominic on 23 January 2008, 08:29:48 AM
I saw a 1/144 plastic kit recently of an Airco DH2.  Can't remember where I saw it though.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 23 January 2008, 10:40:20 AM
Quote from: "Big Guy"
Skytrex do a couple, you just need to work out the flight decks.


Shouldn't be a great problem, as you can easily use those of the Wings of War Card-Games.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Lowtardog on 23 January 2008, 11:12:54 AM
What is needed is card protectors as they soon get damaged (especially when someone spills coffee on the table :oops:  :cry: )
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 23 January 2008, 11:27:52 AM
If someone would spill coffee on my games, I wouldn't care as there would be blood all over them soon after - and then the coffee wouldn't matter anymore ;)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: meninobesta on 23 January 2008, 11:58:40 AM
just to inform that there is going bo ba a boardgame convention in Leiria, Portugal, this saturday! and that the Wings of War Designer will be present

http://bp2.blogger.com/_YMCmhbJphmY/R48_ynkLeHI/AAAAAAAAAU4/jC6ClMe0sNk/s1600-h/CartazLeiriaCon2008.JPG

it is also schedulled a wings of war mega battle with 36 players! hoppefully I'll post pictures! :)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Torradas on 23 January 2008, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: "meninobesta"
just to inform that there is going bo ba a boardgame convention in Leiria, Portugal, this saturday! and that the Wings of War Designer will be present

http://bp2.blogger.com/_YMCmhbJphmY/R48_ynkLeHI/AAAAAAAAAU4/jC6ClMe0sNk/s1600-h/CartazLeiriaCon2008.JPG

it is also schedulled a wings of war mega battle with 36 players! hoppefully I'll post pictures! :)


Also, new airplanes will be unveiled :)

We'll be at Leiria and will post some photos come Sunday :)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Aaron on 23 January 2008, 02:23:38 PM
The designer posted on boardgame geek that they will be doing a "booster" pack that will cover eindeckers and other early planes, so you will at least get the necessary maneuver decks for some early crates.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Torradas on 23 January 2008, 03:30:53 PM
To be absolutely precise, we'll be having Andrea Angiolino at Leiria this Saturday. We will try and break the World Record of simultaneous players in a WoW game (with about 36 miniatures) and Andrea will present "Wave 2"* (some pics):

(http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic279658_md.jpg)
(http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic279651_md.jpg)

For the "boardgamey" inclined (and the Leiria Convention is all about boardgames - with some miniature wargaming on the side) we will also have another guest: Mac Gerdts (designer of Antike, Hamburgum and Imperial).

Will be an excellent weekend :)

I volunteered to in the controls of a wood and canvas "bird" for WoW of course. Excellent game :)

*Wave 2:
WOW112A Fokker D.VII Hermann Göring
WOW112B Fokker D.VII Hugo Schäfer
WOW112C Fokker D.VII Ernst Udet
WOW113A Sopwith Snipe William George Barker
WOW113B Sopwith Snipe Thomas Charles Richmond Baker
WOW113C Sopwith Snipe Clement Verner Ryrie
WOW114A LFG Roland C.II Manfred von Richthofen
WOW114B LFG Roland C.II Richard Seibert & Arthur Pfleger
WOW114C LFG Roland C.II Luftstreitskräfte
WOW115A De Havilland D.H. 4 Egbert Cadbury & Robert Leckie
WOW115B AIRCO D.H. 4 American Expeditionary Force
WOW116C De Havilland D.H. 4 Alfred Clayburn Atkey
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Grimm on 23 January 2008, 05:15:45 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!


I need  "Wave 2" you are realy lucky guys in Leiria !!!
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Plynkes on 23 January 2008, 05:30:49 PM
Now just be careful out there, chaps, especially if you're playing on the floor.

I broke my Dr.I "Kempf" the other day by not looking where I was sitting. He's all better now, but it was touch-and-go for a while.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: meninobesta on 23 January 2008, 05:36:59 PM
I think the organization will set up a table with scenery, like a usual wargame!  :)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: fho on 23 January 2008, 06:42:21 PM
Quote from: "Lowtardog"
What is needed is card protectors as they soon get damaged (especially when someone spills coffee on the table :oops:  :cry: )

There are suitable card protectors available. Lautapelit.fi sells those (http://www.lautapelit.fi/lautapelit/index.php?p=1239). Unfortunately their web page is only in Finnish, but they have  Nordic resellers (http://www.lautapelit.fi/kotisivu/nordic.php).

Lautapelit.fi shop keeper told that they ordered a special batch of protectors in 47mm x 68mm from Dragonshield (http://www.arcanetinmen.dk/html/arcane.html). As those were only for their shop, they had to order quite big batch. But I guess they sell those to oversees. Just email them info@lautapelit.fi , they speak English. Or convince your local game shop to get a batch from Dragonshield :)

These protectors are also suitable for:
- Thurn and Taxis
- Ticket to ride
- Pirates cove
Title: Wings of War
Post by: MaxxVane on 24 January 2008, 10:18:26 AM
OK, I want to start playing this, what do I need to buy ?

I assume some planes  :D , but which rules do I need to get ?
Title: Wings of War
Post by: dominic on 24 January 2008, 10:22:54 AM
I think your best bet is to start with the Wings of War deluxe set.  Comes with the complete rules and 4 plane models and would be cheaper than buying the basic set, expansion card decks and 4 aircraft models separately.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Darren on 24 January 2008, 10:48:48 AM
The only thing about the Deluxe set is that it wasn't made in all languages - it's not in English for sure.  However, you can download the rules from the website so it's not a big problem.

If you're in the UK, you can buy a German version of the Deluxe set for £35 from Shire Games - http://www.shiregames.com/khxc/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=1266
Title: Wings of War
Post by: dominic on 24 January 2008, 10:53:24 AM
Hi, I didn't know the Deluxe set is not available in English.  You could also get it from Germany for EUR31.95 from this place:

http://www.spiele-offensive.de/

The complete English rules can be downloaded from the official Wings of War website:

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/wingsofwarsupport.html
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Plynkes on 24 January 2008, 10:56:07 AM
MaxxVane, you don't actually need the model planes, crazy as that may sound. You can play the game with one of the box sets. They come with cards that you can use instead of the models.

Of course, it's more fun with the models, but just buying one box might be a good way to find out if you like the game or not. Less stuff to put on eBay later. You can always get some planes later if you decide the game's for you.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Lowtardog on 24 January 2008, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: "fho"
Quote from: "Lowtardog"
What is needed is card protectors as they soon get damaged (especially when someone spills coffee on the table :oops:  :cry: )

There are suitable card protectors available. Lautapelit.fi sells those (http://www.lautapelit.fi/lautapelit/index.php?p=1239). Unfortunately their web page is only in Finnish, but they have  Nordic resellers (http://www.lautapelit.fi/kotisivu/nordic.php).

Lautapelit.fi shop keeper told that they ordered a special batch of protectors in 47mm x 68mm from Dragonshield (http://www.arcanetinmen.dk/html/arcane.html). As those were only for their shop, they had to order quite big batch. But I guess they sell those to oversees. Just email them info@lautapelit.fi , they speak English. Or convince your local game shop to get a batch from Dragonshield :)

These protectors are also suitable for:
- Thurn and Taxis
- Ticket to ride
- Pirates cove


Thanks for the heads up FHO :mrgreen:
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Lowtardog on 24 January 2008, 11:03:50 AM
Quote from: "Plynkes"
MaxxVane, you don't actually need the model planes, crazy as that may sound. You can play the game with one of the box sets. They come with cards that you can use instead of the models.

Of course, it's more fun with the models, but just buying one box might be a good way to find out if you like the game or not. Less stuff to put on eBay later. You can always get some planes later if you decide the game's for you.


I would say that the planes make the game for me, I can`t get away with the cards, now if the deluxe set had been around I would have gone for that.

I think the game is around £20-25 and each plane is £5-7 depending on where you can get it.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 24 January 2008, 11:26:04 AM
One of the authors wrote on boardgamegeek that there is no english version of the deluxe set because the english provider (I guess that's fantasy flight) didn't wanted one.

I definitely need some planes of wave 2. At least one of each type, maybe 2 Fokkers and Snipes. If I get to play alot, I might even go for collecting all minis. For a start I have the DeLuxe box plus a second Albatross and Sopwith Camel each as I think a Dr1 and 2 DVa are a fair matchup against a Spad and 2 camels. Though I must admit that using italian and british together seems wrong for me. Maybe Rickenbacker next? And Fonck is second only to the baron himself...
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Plynkes on 24 January 2008, 11:28:38 AM
The RFC deployed to the Italian front, so there isn't really all that much wrong with having Brits and Italians together.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: MaxxVane on 24 January 2008, 11:29:51 AM
Thanks for the quick replies  :o

So, if I buy the Deluxe set what cant I use (because I only read/speak/think/sleep in English) ?

MV
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Darren on 24 January 2008, 12:03:32 PM
Well - you can buy the deluxe set in German and download the English version of the rules from the website.  Then you're getting four of the model aircraft for only £15 rather than £7 each.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 24 January 2008, 01:18:44 PM
Quote from: "Darren"
Well - you can buy the deluxe set in German and download the English version of the rules from the website.  Then you're getting four of the model aircraft for only £15 rather than £7 each.

The pricing isn't right 32 EUR are more around 24 GBP + p&p
Title: Wings of War
Post by: dominic on 24 January 2008, 01:29:46 PM
Yeah!  The UK prices are much higher!
Title: Wings of War
Post by: MaxxVane on 25 January 2008, 12:25:24 PM
Next question -

I have bought all 12 of the wave 1 planes, how many set of rules would I need to play them all at the same time ?
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Plynkes on 25 January 2008, 01:19:20 PM
You need a damage deck for every four planes (or part thereof, i.e. you'd need two decks for five planes) in the game, according to the rules.

(Or I suppose you could keep track of hits on a bit of paper, and just reshuffle the deck when you run out.)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: MaxxVane on 25 January 2008, 03:17:37 PM
What about all the different movement decks ?

Sorry for all the questions but I havnt played a game yet  :oops:
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Lowtardog on 25 January 2008, 03:29:33 PM
Quote from: "MaxxVane"
What about all the different movement decks ?

Sorry for all the questions but I havnt played a game yet  :oops:


You should have a movment deck for each plane. Check the boxes as a set comes with each model
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Plynkes on 25 January 2008, 03:43:31 PM
Yeah, the model planes come with their own movement decks, so you shouldn't need to worry about that.

Have your planes arrived yet? If you don't have movement decks you've been ripped off.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: MaxxVane on 25 January 2008, 06:28:29 PM
Planes haven't arrived yet, not due until next week
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 26 January 2008, 09:49:26 AM
After my first two games last saturday and receiving my own copy this week, friday was Dogfight-Day. I teamed up with my 14-year old nice against some chaps in my local club. My nice managed to show a full aerobatic programme on the far side of the table during all 3 games, while I got shot down by the allies. The first two games she managed to take down both allies afterwards (!), but in the third game we lost abysmal. Later that evening at home we tried it one-on-one, a real dogfight between Dr.1 and Sopwith Camel. This time she got it right and we had 4 or 5 really cool games.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Grimm on 26 January 2008, 10:46:26 AM
did someone know if the second wave of planes (series 2) is on the market now?
where can I get them ?

Where can I get Bombers and Zeplins ?

Grimm
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Trencher on 26 January 2008, 11:09:20 AM
Grimm, brace yourself for a deep hole in your wallet. And get a reservation for your local gym-/community-hall for playing...
This brute fits sizewise to your WOW planes:

http://www.sweb.cz/hippomodels/

That thing is huge and sexy, but the price is a killer... :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

Oh, and bombers: Take a look there:

http://www.skytrex.com/

They are in the Red Eagle 1:144 Scale WWI Aircraft section, for the German bombers you've got to scroll down.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Grimm on 26 January 2008, 01:26:13 PM
Quote
Oh, and bombers: Take a look there:


No pictures  :cry:
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 26 January 2008, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: "Trencher"
Grimm, brace yourself for a deep hole in your wallet. And get a reservation for your local gym-/community-hall for playing...
This brute fits sizewise to your WOW planes:

http://www.sweb.cz/hippomodels/


AAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!

But I won't buy it, I think I'll use my 1/700th model of the Hindenburgh
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Trencher on 26 January 2008, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: "Grimm"
Quote
Oh, and bombers: Take a look there:


No pictures  :cry:


Sorry, there's no direct link. You've got to click yourself through to the Red Eagles section. It is a Gotha G IV 1916 and an AEG G IV. They do some British pusher-kites as well. I've got no experiences with these kits, though. But maybe one of our fellow adventurers?
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Grimm on 26 January 2008, 08:25:17 PM
Ah cool !!
Thank you  :mrgreen:
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Trencher on 26 January 2008, 08:53:24 PM
This could be of interest as well:

http://www.modelimex.com/Seznam.aspx?CategoryID=299&Producer=759

Even more WWI plane goodness. They're cast in resin, so replacing the struts with brass rods would be a sensible thing to do. Warning: They are not cheap, but there are some nice and rare subjects (e.g. Short 184, Friedrichshafen G III, Caproni Ca.3, Armstrong Whitworth F.K.8, Zeppelin-Staaken R VI and of course the Handley Page 0/400...).
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Torradas on 27 January 2008, 12:32:02 PM
I´ll have a very busy Sunday and won´t be able to do a proper LeiriaCon08 report today (which I´ll do on it´s own thread) but I´ll leave you with some photos of wave 2 ;):

An overview of the models (Andrea told us that some are just prototypes - the final versions will have slightly different shades of mauve/green/etc because he isn´t quite happy with the current ones):

(http://lh3.google.com/torradas/R5x2AwXLhMI/AAAAAAAAFBA/50nrI4Pkq0I/s800/DSCF1576.JPG)

A closer (slightly out of focus :P) view:
(http://lh4.google.com/torradas/R5x2HAXLhOI/AAAAAAAAFBQ/73zngrTGd1U/s800/DSCF1578.JPG)

The big boys of wave 2 - bombers!
(http://lh4.google.com/torradas/R5x2OAXLhQI/AAAAAAAAFBg/GAgZx-7zo8w/s800/DSCF1580.JPG)

Black was in fashion with the allies back then:
(http://lh6.google.com/torradas/R5x2WgXLhSI/AAAAAAAAFBw/HdMeHp3guNc/s800/DSCF1582.JPG)

Colorful D. VII`s:
(http://lh6.google.com/torradas/R5x2agXLhTI/AAAAAAAAFB4/95rQ3r_Qmvg/s800/DSCF1583.JPG)

And finally, a record-breaking 45 simultaneous players Wings of War game (Axis won by a Loooooong distance. 30 minutes in it was 9 downed allies to only 2 downed axis).:
(http://lh6.google.com/torradas/R5x3TgXLhhI/AAAAAAAAFDs/6ZZUPyZZqgU/s800/DSCF1598.JPG)

It was all great fun :)
Andrea is a very approachable person and gave out some tidbits on future releases - and there WILL be zeppelins :D
He´s extremely knowledgeable of all kinds of information on the era and an absolute perfectionist when it comes to putting together the manouver decks and the mini itself. I liked the game (which I only ever had played with cards - no mini) but now I´m completely in love with it :)

Tomorrow I´ll do a more detailed report. I drove a D.VII for the massive 45 player air joust and the manouver deck for that is just amazing :)

Cheers all,
Torradas
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Big Guy on 27 January 2008, 05:07:54 PM
More toys! more toys!

Zepplins you say...
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Darren on 27 January 2008, 06:30:57 PM
Hehe - that sharktoothed Albatros is an essential...
Title: Wings of War
Post by: archangel1 on 27 January 2008, 07:19:33 PM
Quote from: "Darren"
Hehe - that sharktoothed Albatros is an essential...


Actually, it's a Roland C.II  :wink:
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Darren on 27 January 2008, 09:05:13 PM
Argh!  That's me shot down  :wink:
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Torradas on 27 January 2008, 10:59:02 PM
one more pic:

Andrea Angiolino showing us his wave 2 prototypes:
(http://lh6.google.com/torradas/R5x3GgXLhdI/AAAAAAAAFDM/AAjMzFVMaGo/s800/DSCF1594.JPG)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: meninobesta on 27 January 2008, 11:17:24 PM
Bloody Plastic Huns!  :x they tricked us once again!

(http://firepigeon.smugmug.com/photos/247964875-L.jpg)

that's me in the back trying to cheer up the good guys! but with no real effect... we shouldn't have eaten that pidgeon with the orders the night before! but the parchment was a great seasoning!  :mrgreen:

(http://firepigeon.smugmug.com/photos/247959152-L.jpg)
a picture of the flying mayhem!
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Torradas on 27 January 2008, 11:20:41 PM
Pictures of the massive Wings of War game while it was in progress:

Lots of crosses and precious little roundels on the wings there...
(http://firepigeon.smugmug.com/photos/247971012-L.jpg)

And this is the "casualty table", some 20 minutes into the game (lots of fallen allies there):
(http://firepigeon.smugmug.com/photos/247970708-L.jpg)

As Allied planes dwindled on the table, we began to see some 4 on 1 Fokker on Sopwith action, the results of which were inevitable:
(http://firepigeon.smugmug.com/photos/247973182-L.jpg)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: archangel1 on 27 January 2008, 11:36:43 PM
Quote from: "Torradas"


...Black was in fashion with the allies back then:
(http://lh6.google.com/torradas/R5x2WgXLhSI/AAAAAAAAFBw/HdMeHp3guNc/s800/DSCF1582.JPG)...

Cheers all,
Torradas


I'm a little leery about the black wings on the Snipes.  As far as I know, they all left the factory painted in P.C.10 Khaki on all upper surfaces.  It's possible some were painted in NIVO (a dark grey/green) for night interdiction but I haven't heard of any painted black.  The Germans did have several true black aircraft schemes (Triplanes, Albatros, etc) but even the aircraft of the famous Black Flight of Sopwith Triplanes were not actually painted black.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Torradas on 27 January 2008, 11:40:46 PM
Keep in mind that these are prototypes - especially colour-wise.

Some of the black shades Andrea told us will be greener. We´ll just have to wait for the production run to see the final product.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: warrenpeace on 29 January 2008, 03:41:26 AM
Quote from: "Grimm"


Where can I get Bombers and Zeplins ?

Grimm


Don't forget about Reviresco's paper Zeplin L-59:

http://www.tin-soldier.com/zep.htm

And Reviresco sells 1:144 scale airplane kits and decals too.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Argonor on 29 January 2008, 11:19:55 AM
I think I may need this game   :(
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Grimm on 29 January 2008, 03:38:43 PM
Quote
I think I may need this game

Argonor ! that is the problem with these Forum to much stuff you need  :wink:

meninobesta
good to see the Ramones T-shirt  :)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: dominic on 29 January 2008, 03:47:45 PM
I just received Wings of War - Dawn of War - the WW2 set.  Will open the box tonight to see how (apart from the types of airplanes) it differs from the WW1 game.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Argonor on 29 January 2008, 06:47:27 PM
Quote from: "dominic"
I just received Wings of War - Dawn of War - the WW2 set.  Will open the box tonight to see how (apart from the types of airplanes) it differs from the WW1 game.


Please, let us know. In the meantime, I'll start lobbying for my nearest game store to start carrying WoW!
Title: Wings of War
Post by: MaxxVane on 30 January 2008, 08:37:46 AM
All my planes arrived today, and all I can say is "Bloody hell they are smart !!", they are superb marketing/sales items, well painted, well packaged, all the bits you want to play straight away.

I wish other manufactures would take a look at them and present their products in such a good way.

Oh, and the games good too  :D
Title: Wings of War
Post by: dominic on 30 January 2008, 09:28:11 AM
The WW2 game - Dawn of War - expands on the Wings of War concept by adding some new features such as speed, aiming, ace pilot characteristics and ground attack.

Instead of placing 3 maneuver cards, players place only 1 maneuver card, and one acceleration or deceleration marker (or none at all to stay at the same speed).  Each maneuver card has 2 sets of arrows - and the player uses the arrow that matches his speed for that turn.

Aiming - if you are shooting at a player for the second consecutive turn, then the target player draws additional damage tokens.

Ace characteristics - if you have an ace pilot in your team, he can have special characteristics like acrobatic, daredevil, good aim, and so on.

Ground attack - gives you the chance to attack targets on the ground.

Recovery - after performing some rigourous maneuvers, a player has to take some recovery counters, which are discarded one per turn. (eg an acrobatic ace may perform another non-straight maneuver directly after an Immelmann.  But in doing so, he takes 5 recovery counters) If a player has a recovery counter, he cannot perform another rigorous maneuver until he has fully recovered (ie all counters discarded)

Altitude (as per WoW)

I think this new game would be great with 1/144 minis using those extendable radio antennae stands!

You can download the rules here:

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/PDF/DW_Rulebook_EN_web.pdf

BTW - you get all the cool WW2 early planes like Spitfire, Hurricane, Me109, Zero, Dewoitine and so on
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Torradas on 30 January 2008, 10:09:50 AM
Slightly off topic.

To go with my rising interest in WW1 air war, Teutonic efficiency will produce sometime this year the movie "The Red Baron". Some trailers already available on youtube:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bJghJNAjc1k

The word that springs to mind is: WOW!!!
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 30 January 2008, 01:24:27 PM
Have you read the storyine? Compared to this Troja is historically correct
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Torradas on 30 January 2008, 01:41:15 PM
Actually no, but I for one am more than happy to trade historical correctness for a sensual smorgasbord of canvas being torn asunder by spandaus vomiting lead :D

I figured historical accuracy went out the window from the trailer. That seems like an awfully overcrowded sky...
Title: Wings of War
Post by: loki on 07 February 2008, 12:03:19 PM
New stuff to come:

Finally, there’s a ton of Wings of War items spread throughout the coming twelve months:

    * February—Flying Legend and Eagles of the Reich, two booster packs for the WW2 series; also, a miniatures package of WW1 airplanes
    * April—Immelmann and Dogfight Squadron, two booster packs to add more planes to the WW1 series
    * June—Fire from the Sky, a new game set for the WW2 series; also, a miniatures package of WW1 airplanes
    * October—Flight of the Giants, a new game set for WW1 that introduces a nunmber of bombers
    * December—Balloon Busters, a boxed set of WW1 miniatures that will include models for Drachen Caquot/AE800 and Nieuport 11 in two different painting schemes

In addition to all of this, Nexus is taking a cue from its line of WW1 miniatures for Wings of War and releasing a series for WW2. The 1/196 scale pre-assembled and pre-painted planes from the first years of that international conflict will be sold in complete sets and as individual planes. The first release will include the Supermarine Spitfire, Messerschmitt Bf 109, Mitsubishi A6M2 “Zero” and Grummann F4F-3.

Found this here at www.boardgamenews.com :
http://www.boardgamenews.com/index.php/boardgamenews/comments/nexus_announces_2008_line_up_conan_x2_war_of_the_ring_minis_galore/#comments
Title: Wings of War
Post by: fho on 16 February 2008, 11:42:46 AM
Hi,

I found the cheapest Hindenburg so far,  The Revell MiniKit (http://www.stocktonmodeller.co.uk/revell_mini_kits-21271.html). I planning to use it in my games. There is also a Fokker DR 1. The quality is lower than WoW's own, but the price tag difference is significant.

Here is a comparison photo:
(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/fhoo/revell-minikit.jpg)
Title: Wings of War
Post by: MadMö on 14 March 2008, 09:13:16 AM
Grimm got me addicted to Wings of War :mrgreen:
I´m now the proud owner of a deluxe box and two additional planes: Ollieslagers´ sopwith snipe and Rahn´s DR.I.
Even my wife played a game with me.
Luckily she shot me down.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Argonor on 14 March 2008, 11:38:09 AM
Where did you get that deluxe set?
Title: Wings of War
Post by: MadMö on 14 March 2008, 04:36:45 PM
Quote from: "Argonor"
Where did you get that deluxe set?


Spieleland Hamburg, Dammtorstr. 12, Tel.: 040-35713997
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Argonor on 14 March 2008, 06:54:08 PM
OK, Danke!
Title: Wings of War
Post by: MadMö on 10 April 2008, 08:26:10 AM
I made a pdf with photos of all planes from series 1 and 2.
Also you can see wich manouvre-deck and damage-deck each plane uses and how many damage points it has.

http://www.doktus.de/dok/50349/wings-of-war-alle-modelle.html
Title: Wings of War
Post by: PeteMurray on 10 April 2008, 12:24:23 PM
Quote from: "MadMö"
I made a pdf with photos of all planes from series 1 and 2.
Also you can see wich manouvre-deck and damage-deck each plane uses and how many damage points it has.

http://www.doktus.de/dok/50349/wings-of-war-alle-modelle.html


Whoa, those Series 2 planes are awesome looking. No Neiuport 11 or DH2, though, which is a bit of a bummer. Poly will be sad for a lack of the latter.

I'd also like to point out that the American D.H. 4's guns rate A/A! That is because of the 2nd Amendment.  :twisted:
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 10 April 2008, 01:06:49 PM
Quote from: PeteMurray
Quote from: "MadMö"
I'd also like to point out that the American D.H. 4's guns rate A/A! That is because of the 2nd Amendment.  :twisted:

It's a killer! When everybody else went ordering Fokkers and Snipes, a guy from my club (some of you might know the incredible Hölschman) ordered an Albatros and a SPAD saying that he won't join the arms race - and ordered the AIRCO, not knowing the stats. He'll be annoyed! :lol:
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Plynkes on 10 April 2008, 01:17:33 PM
What is it with these obscure planes they keep making?

What about some more well-known planes such as the Austro-Lloyd C.V, the Phönix D.I, or the Morane-Saulnier? :)


They should also do an Early War set, with Etrich Taubes and Sopwith Tabloids throwing cream buns and cricket balls at each other,  which of course would require a new damage deck.

Alternatively just make your own new deck using all the 0 Damage cards from the other decks.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: Lowtardog on 10 April 2008, 01:23:04 PM
There must be a way of adapting these rules for stop the pigeon :D  hmm let me have a think about it.
Title: Wings of War
Post by: PeteMurray on 10 April 2008, 01:24:37 PM
An early war set would be unique in that the damage cards would be intermittently mixed in with the maneuver cards. Oops! You turned too hard and your wing separated from the fuselage. C'est la Guerre.

The combat deck would also include "saluting the enemy" and "waving politely."
Title: Wings of War
Post by: MadMö on 10 April 2008, 04:17:23 PM
I own a D.H. 4 with B/B damage deck same as my Roland CII.
Flying it with an A/A damage deck enables my seven year old nephews to shoot their uncle easily down. :(
We`ll have a little Allies vs. Central next week in our club.
It will be a first for the 2-seaters.
In my opinion it will be a bad day for the german DR.I triplanes.
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Froggy the Great on 12 January 2009, 01:59:28 PM
The WW2 game - Dawn of War - expands on the Wings of War concept by adding some new features such as speed, aiming, ace pilot characteristics and ground attack.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/PDF/DW_Rulebook_EN_web.pdf

Sorry for the thread-necromancy - this link appears to be broken and I can't find it on the FFG site.  Anyone have this and would be willing to share, assuming FFG would still allow it?
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Lowtardog on 12 January 2009, 02:02:34 PM
I sold all mine but I remember seeing the third wave is out or fdue out soon
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Froggy the Great on 12 January 2009, 02:12:55 PM
I'm specifically looking for the PDF that I've seen was available to download from FFG for free.  I can't find the link on their site any more.
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Zephalo on 13 January 2009, 10:35:55 AM
Sorry for the thread-necromancy - this link appears to be broken and I can't find it on the FFG site.  Anyone have this and would be willing to share, assuming FFG would still allow it?
You can still find the rules at the FFG site -> Boardgames -> Wings of War -> Support:
http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite_sec.asp?eidm=24&esem=4

Direct link to the Dawn of War rules:
http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/wings-of-war/media/dw-rulebook-en-web.pdf

Greetings,
Zephalo
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: joroas on 13 January 2009, 10:52:41 AM
Yes, there are 12 new planes out, I can feel that money leaving my pocket already............
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Froggy the Great on 13 January 2009, 12:45:27 PM
You can still find the rules at the FFG site -> Boardgames -> Wings of War -> Support:
http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite_sec.asp?eidm=24&esem=4

Direct link to the Dawn of War rules:
http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/wings-of-war/media/dw-rulebook-en-web.pdf
Thank you!
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: warrenpeace on 16 January 2009, 04:56:22 AM
http://www.wingsofwar.it/read.asp?id=3337


Click there to see some pictures of the new Wave 3 airplanes.
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: MadMö on 16 January 2009, 01:15:23 PM
Today i buy some new planes. :D
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: flytime on 16 January 2009, 06:21:22 PM
I´ll do so tomorow. third series here we go :).
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Hammers on 12 March 2009, 02:51:05 PM
Woo-ho! Telling myself strips of newspaper are more environment friendly than diapers, I spent fiver's, son of Hammers, hygiene money on a box of the finest "WoW:Watch Your Back!"  and a Nieuport 23 (Kibanov) and a UFAG CI. They are already stained with engine noise simulation spittle.

To my question: have any of you WoW aficionados on the forum pimped your game accoutrements any? I am thinking many miniature painters beside myself cannot resits sexing up planes, movement cards, markers and game board a little.
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 12 March 2009, 05:24:30 PM
Just a (not very good) repaint of my Dr.1 to fit with my Skytrex Siemens-Schuckert, but more are on the list.
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Poiter50 on 13 March 2009, 12:27:55 AM
The WoW Yahoo group have lots of links to repaints. Some have even done whole squadrons to suit.
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 13 March 2009, 07:05:33 AM
Ah yes, and Dom's Decals are doing sopme really nice sets for building historically accurate Jagdstaffeln.
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Elprez on 13 April 2009, 09:57:52 PM
Only just found this thread, sorry but I had to add my comments...

The rules for this game are so easy that within 5 minutes you'll be playing without referring to them at all.
Brilliant! Just because they're easy doesn't mean they're no good: quite the opposite. All your attention is on PLAYING the game.
My 9-year-old son and I have had quite a few games, and its GREAT FUN.
Engine and machine gun noises are almost compulsory.
 lol
Thoroughly recommended.
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: MadMö on 14 April 2009, 12:18:32 PM
Update on the planes.
Series 1 to 3 planes with pictures. You can see damage and manoeuvre decks and spot the mistake the photographer made:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/12777414/Wings-of-War-All-Models-Series-13 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/12777414/Wings-of-War-All-Models-Series-13)
Contents of all Wings of War boxes and booster packs:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14215895/contents-of-all-wings-of-war-boxes-and-packs (http://www.scribd.com/doc/14215895/contents-of-all-wings-of-war-boxes-and-packs)

Whats on schedule:
April:
Wings of War Game Mat, scheduled as an April release, a gaming surface for duels in extra-thick foam, printed in four colors. There will be two variants (East and West section). The mat will have a size of 68 x 98 cm (27" x 39"), which can be joined together to create the ultimate Wings of War landscape.

August:
Flight of the Giants, which will introduce early bombers and will require any other box for playing, and other two expansions.

September:
The Balloon Busters Expansion Pack will arrive, a boxed set with one balloon model (Drachen Caquot/AE800) and one plane (Nieuport 16). The set will be available in two different versions.

Dezember:
Hit and Run will add airplanes like the SPAD VII and the Aviatik D.I.
Crossfire will bring to the game new aircraft like the Bristol Fighter and the Rumpler C. IV-VII.
The end of the year will see the release of Series 4, including the models Se5a, Pfalz D.III, Breguet XIV - Rumpler C.IV, in three different painting schemes.
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: joroas on 18 April 2009, 08:57:16 AM
 ...and not forgetting the WWII fighters due soon to.........
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Col. Hajj on 05 December 2009, 08:38:37 AM
Update on the planes.
Series 1 to 3 planes with pictures. You can see damage and manoeuvre decks and spot the mistake the photographer made:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/12777414/Wings-of-War-All-Models-Series-13 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/12777414/Wings-of-War-All-Models-Series-13)
Contents of all Wings of War boxes and booster packs:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14215895/contents-of-all-wings-of-war-boxes-and-packs (http://www.scribd.com/doc/14215895/contents-of-all-wings-of-war-boxes-and-packs)

Whats on schedule:
April:
Wings of War Game Mat, scheduled as an April release, a gaming surface for duels in extra-thick foam, printed in four colors. There will be two variants (East and West section). The mat will have a size of 68 x 98 cm (27" x 39"), which can be joined together to create the ultimate Wings of War landscape.

August:
Flight of the Giants, which will introduce early bombers and will require any other box for playing, and other two expansions.

September:
The Balloon Busters Expansion Pack will arrive, a boxed set with one balloon model (Drachen Caquot/AE800) and one plane (Nieuport 16). The set will be available in two different versions.

Dezember:
Hit and Run will add airplanes like the SPAD VII and the Aviatik D.I.
Crossfire will bring to the game new aircraft like the Bristol Fighter and the Rumpler C. IV-VII.
The end of the year will see the release of Series 4, including the models Se5a, Pfalz D.III, Breguet XIV - Rumpler C.IV, in three different painting schemes.


I know this is an older thread, but I wanted to update so of the info in the above post...

Flight of the Giants, Hit and Run and Crossfire have all been pushed back to an undisclosed date in 2010.  The Balloon Busters Expansion Pack will be on sell in January of 2010.  You can see photos and preview artwork of all of these over at Wings of War Aerodrome (http://www.wingsofwar.org).  They also run lots of contests over there giving away Wings of War prizes.
Title: Re: Wings of War
Post by: Poliorketes on 06 December 2009, 01:37:13 PM
Hi Hajj, nice to see you here