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Title: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 18 April 2012, 06:56:05 AM
I've had an industrial fantasy related backburner project for some years now and I was thinking of maybe giving it a bit more steam over the summer.

So what I want would be tips for roughly-WARMACHINE-style steam(punk) style powered armour miniatures in ca. 28mm scale other than the stuff done by Privateer Press. Something like, say, Khador Man'o'wars. Am willing to look at VSF types as well.

I'm a bit of a fish out of water with fantasy stuff so I can think all of one that Reaper makes ("something-something Steampunk Hero" IIRC)...
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: maxxev on 18 April 2012, 08:48:51 AM
There's the APE suits from the invursion game I think it is, you can get them at WestWind
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: Faber on 18 April 2012, 09:25:46 AM
One of my ongoing project is a large fantasy steampunk imperial warband so I've surfed the web a bit. What you have to decide first, in my opinion, is the "faction". Do you want a human gang? Or dwarves? Or pirates? Or elves?
If you are looking for a steampunk hero but not a PP one I would suggest this from Hasslefree:

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/h045web.jpg)
(find him here (http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=steampunk-warrior~hfh045&category=miniatures~fantasy-humans))

Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 18 April 2012, 09:37:17 AM
They should be human in my case. Pirates optional if they are human pirates :P

Good call on the Hasslefree one, I didn't know about that. Shame it's a one-off, just like the Reaper guy.

The ape suits aren't bad but a bit too modern-looking, as are most other "big stonking armoured suits" I'm aware of. I wouldn't like to recommend too much conversion work however.
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: Lowtardog on 18 April 2012, 09:56:32 AM
One of my ongoing project is a large fantasy steampunk imperial warband so I've surfed the web a bit. What you have to decide first, in my opinion, is the "faction". Do you want a human gang? Or dwarves? Or pirates? Or elves?
If you are looking for a steampunk hero but not a PP one I would suggest this from Hasslefree:

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/h045web.jpg)
(find him here (http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=steampunk-warrior~hfh045&category=miniatures~fantasy-humans))



Never saw that chap before, nice find
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: Faber on 18 April 2012, 09:58:49 AM
They should be human in my case. Pirates optional if they are human pirates :P

Good call on the Hasslefree one, I didn't know about that. Shame it's a one-off, just like the Reaper guy.

That's right but with some painitng/conversion skill you can use him as a hero to fit in your gang. What do you need exactly? I mean, how many basic troopers? wich weapons? how many and wich kind of hero do you need? warjacks?
In my warband I've got 5 arquebusiers 1 sergeant with a couple of pistols 3 hounds (WIP) 1 ogre armed with a cannon (WIP) and a converted khador 'jack. I'm actually preparing some melee fighters... I still need a techno-wizard...
If you wish you can check my gallery (here (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=370;u=3808))
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 18 April 2012, 10:23:02 AM
I still need a techno-wizard...


Cygnar Stormsmith?
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 18 April 2012, 10:37:46 AM
What do you need exactly? I mean, how many basic troopers? wich weapons? how many and wich kind of hero do you need?
I'm not thinking along the lines of what I need really, but along the lines of what's available. But yes I would prefer more than just one pose since I'd like to be able to recommend these for a squad based game, with squad size of something like 4 to 10, usually maybe @ officer/hero + 4 troopers. And they should look like there is a guy inside or at least like a guy could fairly easily fit inside, so no golems/jacks/constructs as such at this time. Carrying some sort of firearm would be a big plus to have since these are for an industrial fantasy setting - you don't bring a knife into a clockwork rifle fight after all, unless it's a magic knife :P

As for techno-wizards, might one of the Saints from the Dark Age Games Forsaken line work (they also have a single pose "heavy" Saint, Luke, that would fit my needs except for having a bit too techy gun)?
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: Faber on 18 April 2012, 12:01:54 PM
Cygnar Stormsmith?

mean these?
(http://privateerpress.com/files/products/cygnar/solos/stormsmiths.png)

Pretty cool indeed, but I need a more reinassance style. Maybe I could make a conversion. Thanks for the idea :)

@tnjrp: I see. The only squad that could fit your needing is the Khador Manowar for what I know. I think you should think to a great kitbashing&conversion. Dark Age minis are really cool and there is more than one that could be nice to represent a hero. On the other side they are post apoc and they would need some work too to become fantasy steampunk.
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 18 April 2012, 12:11:52 PM
Shadowsea Fortune Hunters are supposed to be guys in armoured diving suits but this guy isn't actually at all bad for a steam armour ground trooper either. The only absolutely necessary conversion needed would be to clip off the harpoon:
http://shadowsea-game.blogspot.de/2012/04/painted-fortune-hunter-deep-soldier.html

They also have a bigger support armour type but it looks to be shaping into more like an old style diving suit so it's a little less desirable. And of course neither mini is available just yet AFAIK.
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: FramFramson on 19 April 2012, 01:00:55 AM
For a cruder look (and one involving dwarves) you can loook at the mage knight figure "Steam Tinker".
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: Splod on 19 April 2012, 05:39:19 AM
I've had an industrial fantasy related backburner project for some years now and I was thinking of maybe giving it a bit more steam over the summer.

I see what you did there...  ::)
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 19 April 2012, 05:49:23 AM
The subject matter was asking for it, sir!
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 20 April 2012, 08:02:27 AM
Wrath of Kings, the not-Confrontation-remake-at-all game upcoming from CMON looks to have potential to offer a few steampowered armour suits somewhere down the line - unless they go for the constructs only route which has traditionally been more popular.
http://wrathofkings.com/
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: Mason on 20 April 2012, 08:54:54 AM
Speaking of Confrontation, there are quite a few steam powered looking suits in the Dwarf range.
OOP now, I know, but you could ask on the Bazar and trawl ebay, they are still about somewhere.

Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 20 April 2012, 09:26:09 AM
Yes, there were a bunch of dwarves with steam powered armour in the game (a gaming buddy had a few in fact although he sold them on some years back) but not so many (as in any IIRC) humans unfortunately.

ETA: another up-and-coming possibility - the Nuem from Relics by Tor Gaming might barely be able to pass as "human inside" if you put the faceplates on them. They do have freakishly small legs tho and I'm not quite sure how big the suits really are - that is, I couldn't find anything on their size on a short spin through the TG site.
http://www.beastsofwar.com/tor-gaming/relics/painted-nuem-stalks-tor-gaming/
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: Benny on 22 April 2012, 11:08:42 AM
Might help you a bit. Try the Mantic wargames stuff, specificaly the Forge Fathers and the Virr-myn with some conversion work might serve you well. While a Sci-fi game some of these miniatures have a very steampunk/early industrial feel.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lbdoqJU96ZA/T4cwH9_9ioI/AAAAAAAAMEo/6mS-T2D1r_0/s1600/veer-myn-hero-01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/04/exclusive-mantics-veer-myn-hero-warpath.html&usg=__XEZk9x8ZnU6Nv_zdjIK1dD24N5A=&h=808&w=821&sz=178&hl=en&start=2&zoom=1&tbnid=7r83V4l13kiP1M:&tbnh=142&tbnw=144&ei=RtiTT6-9KoaOmQWvusmAAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3DMantic%2BVeer-myn%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DG%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: Faber on 22 April 2012, 03:41:50 PM
Might help you a bit. Try the Mantic wargames stuff, specificaly the Forge Fathers and the Virr-myn with some conversion work might serve you well. While a Sci-fi game some of these miniatures have a very steampunk/early industrial feel.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lbdoqJU96ZA/T4cwH9_9ioI/AAAAAAAAMEo/6mS-T2D1r_0/s1600/veer-myn-hero-01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/04/exclusive-mantics-veer-myn-hero-warpath.html&usg=__XEZk9x8ZnU6Nv_zdjIK1dD24N5A=&h=808&w=821&sz=178&hl=en&start=2&zoom=1&tbnid=7r83V4l13kiP1M:&tbnh=142&tbnw=144&ei=RtiTT6-9KoaOmQWvusmAAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3DMantic%2BVeer-myn%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DG%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1

oh! cool base for conversion Benny. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: generulpoleaxe on 22 April 2012, 06:48:24 PM
Sebastian at Guild of Harmony produces one or two nice steam punk miniatures
(oz based)

Can't remember the name of the little company that has started up but the first figure is a steam punk one. (it's in the general section of the cool mini forums.)

sorry about lack of links etc but I'm stuck for time.
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 30 April 2012, 06:09:08 AM
Guild of Harmony minis do look nice in the piccies but aren't what I'm looking for here. Good tip on the fantasy Chinese tho, I might not have remembered them when the time comes to write a Wuxia list 8)

The other company sounds like it might be Stone Tower:
http://stonetowerminiatures.com/

Again, not what I'm looking for an frankly rather unimpressive otherwise too. But that's just IMHO of course.

More to the subject, I had the feeling I had forgotten one of those "let's make not-Space-Marines" companies:
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home

The armour is a little lighter than I'd prefer for my own tabletop and of course the design is pretty unoriginal but technically if you avoid the techiest bits in the range they would just about work.
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: thebinmann on 01 May 2012, 12:07:53 AM
Elfball Gnomes have steampowered armour:

(http://www.impactminiatures.com/minis/big/Contraption_Buff_Chicken.jpg)
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 02 May 2012, 08:05:02 AM
So it seems, tho again it's something that has some problems passing off as a suit of armour. Obviously if you replace the Gnome on top with a hatch/cupola of some sort and then rationalize that the trooper curls up inside the upper body, it works within reason but makes the whole thing into small piloted mecha rather than large bulky armour.

On the similar news, the Nuem from Relics look to be coming out soonish:
http://www.beastsofwar.com/tor-gaming/relics/nuem-preorder-relics/
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: thebinmann on 02 May 2012, 11:33:36 AM
Yes, but it might be worth having a look at thier site becuase they have a whole range

Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 02 May 2012, 12:00:32 PM
Yep, the squat onces might just about pass for a human inside a suit of armour although that human would have to have a pretty odd physique - even stranger than that of a Space Marine :P

But anyway, it's not a bad tip although some conversion work is required - as is with almost all of the lines mentioned apart from the Privateer Press stuff of course:
http://www.impactminiatures.com/index.php?option=gnome
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: YPU on 02 May 2012, 12:15:17 PM
I have used the mage knight blade golem as a steam suit in the past, the legs are thick enough to hold a humans legs while the torso is bulky enough that it might contain a man using levers to drive the thing. That is when putting them next to perry miniatures, which are of course quite small for 28mm (or rather the rest is big)
Title: Re: Tips for industrial fantasy type (steam) powered armour?
Post by: tnjrp on 30 May 2012, 08:36:47 AM
Recreational Conflict's Hardsuits might just about pass muster although they are a little too "modern" perhaps:
(http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/leadbones/full/whitehardsuit.jpg)

Might be possible to remedy with a careful choice of paint schemes.

http://www.recreationalconflict.com/