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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: bigredbat on 07 May 2012, 03:13:12 PM
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The illustrious Professor has shown his very finely painted Romans, here are some far cruder attempts from my own humble brush. My defence is that they are only painted to tabletop standard, and will be part of a big unit.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9HttNX3rgLo/T6fTarIC9mI/AAAAAAAAEB4/1XL8CtdMWP4/s320/Aventine+Rioters.jpg)
More on t'blog:-
http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Rioters (http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Rioters)
These are Aventines, but the full crowd will include Foundry, Gorgon and others.
Cheers, Simon
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These are very cool figures and your painting isn't that bad at all. I like your painting style. Maybe I would leave out the painting of the lips (though maybe a matter of taste), but apart from that they're really nice.
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Thanks Prof, painted lips went a bit over the top (looks a bit like smudged lipstick), I might skip them in future.
There aren't a whole lot of unarmoured/civilian Roman minis out there, I was pleased that the Aventines could be adapted.
Simon
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Your miniatures look good. I know you didn't ask but my lip advice would be to add a touch of purple to your flesh tone and paint the bottom lip only.
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and paint the bottom lip only.
That is a good advice. I am only painting lips on the female miniatures and do it exactly that way, the bottom one.
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I was trying to only paint the bottom lip! :-) Purple sounds interesting...
I was lazy, really should wear my glasses for painting.
Simon
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That is a good advice. I am only painting lips on the female miniatures and do it exactly that way, the bottom one.
I paint the bottom lip a darker flesh tone on men, highlighting with the shade colour for the face (when I remember). On women, I paint both lips, slightly darker still, highlighting the lower lip with the colour I use as the base coat for men's lower lips. Unless they are wearing lipstick. Clear as mud, that.
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I've added some more material for my units of Roman rioters- market stalls which will become base dressing as fighting spills through the streets of Rome.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p6XojHnL9xs/T6ruKSjdZdI/AAAAAAAAECE/IA8kNLNPctQ/s320/Javelinman.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gkGhqYsrxbA/T6rwGcz_5sI/AAAAAAAAECU/y71PV7V2PxU/s320/Cart.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MjOV0LjcnqU/T6rxzC5NFFI/AAAAAAAAECk/2Ahmksqvn9M/s320/Bread+stall.jpg)
Above are a few pics, there are more on t'blog:-
http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/street-fighting-man.html (http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/street-fighting-man.html)
Cheers, Simon
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Very nice i love the breads! =)
You know, everytime i read about this in the "latest topics" i think about some "Horrible History" fictions... :)
(http://img.dooyoo.co.uk/GB_EN/orig/0/6/0/6/5/606584.jpg)
Rotten or revolting... well =)
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bigredbat, what rues are you using for Rioting? Very close to my heart this subject, been building up a force/mob for some time.
I've added some more material for my units of Roman rioters- market stalls which will become base dressing as fighting spills through the streets of Rome.
Cheers, Simon
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I like your market stuff.
Things like that add alot to games.
Well done.
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excellent hint with Baueda pottery on your blog, just what I need, thanks.
and their hellenistic sacrifice set is great as well!
(http://www.baueda.com/images/rtp28sac.jpg)
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Thanks Prof, I though you might appreciate the pottery, so good, neh? The sacrifice set is a must have, too, as you say, and I might have to build a temple to put it in front of.
Poitier50 re rules, these are going to be multi-based as wargame units, like my other Romans, on a 6cm frontage. They will resist the armies of insurgent generals attacking my (as yet, largely projected) Roman city.
However I am half tempted to paint some more minis up for skirmish... like in "Rome" with Pullo and Vorenus, and the gangs on the Aventine, so if anyone can suggest any, I might be interested?
Cheers, Simon
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You guys are costing me a fortune in books, I have just purchased 3 Horrible Histories from Book Depository!
There was a set of Rioting rules being done up by a guy in the US IIRC but with a new baby, the set is in limbo unfortunately. The game was demo'ed at Adepticon in 2010 and 2011, I think.
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Yes Hank, and Vox Populi. Would have loved to see them.... hope they still come out.
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Yep, Vox Populi. I had talked on email with Matt Weeks but apparently there was no further progress. I have purchased Najewitz Modellbau Roman buildings as well as a Grand manner Roman/Arthurian Villa. Recently I also bought a bundle of market stalls and trade type goods to use for this type of game but they are on hold for now. Mind you, the forthcoming Dux Britannarium rules might see a use for these figures as well.
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The Modelbau buildings are fantastic, I have been sorely tempted... but I think I will first try to scratchbuild an insula with foamcore, that will fit into my storage boxes. Their gate looks brilliant, too.
I have a villa, temple etc. They are on the blog under terrain. What I really need are multi-storey city buildings.
Cheers, Simon
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Ah, I see, checked your blog, very nice.
The Modelbau buildings are fantastic, I have been sorely tempted... but I think I will first try to scratchbuild an insula with foamcore, that will fit into my storage boxes. Their gate looks brilliant, too.
I have a villa, temple etc. They are on the blog under terrain. What I really need are multi-storey city buildings.
Cheers, Simon
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GZI5IFE8jn4/T6-V1VXkvnI/AAAAAAAAEDs/kPrPwBYbetU/s320/Bases3.jpg)
I've made a start at basing, on cobbles. More on t'blog.
http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/cobblers.html (http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/cobblers.html)
Cheers, Simon
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This looks very nice, like it, but I'm afraid I didn't get that basing thing. Are the figures sticked and supposed to be moved together with that large base incl. table?
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Yes, Prof. They are going to be a wargame unit, rather than skirmish based, like yours. They will be lugging an entire market around with them. ;-) But they are only going to fight in towns hence the cobbles and woodwork. I'll post a WIP shot tomorrow.
I am coming around to the idea of Roman skirmish though, I might do some more, singly based, later on.
Cheers, Simon
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Nice idea, Simon, unusual but surely very interesting. Looking forward to see more!
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Prof, for your various Roman projects, have you looked at the Classical range from Aventine? Lurking amongst the gladiators, there are figures that would pass for Numidian/African or as farmers, and they are all built on the Copplestone dollies. The 3 cavalry are particularly nice.
Simon
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Prof, for your various Roman projects, have you looked at the Classical range from Aventine? Lurking amongst the gladiators, there are figures that would pass for Numidian/African or as farmers, and they are all built on the Copplestone dollies. The 3 cavalry are particularly nice.
got them all already and the painted the one cavalry, he is on this thread:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=41429.0
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Aha, I'd missed him, very nice.
Is the figure with the raised fist Foundry?
Simon
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Is the figure with the raised fist Foundry?
no, it's Crusader, Gladiators range, one of the spectators
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Oh goody, I'll have that, then! :-)
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Neat thread and project. Those Aventine rioters you posted in the first pic... are they conversions? What are they sold as? I couldn't find them on the website. They look like they'll do for a project I've been wanting to start.
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Hi Dr Mathias, I was a bit naughty because I didn't say that they are simple conversions (plastic card for bricks, slight repositioning of arms), from the Republican LI RR004 Leves bareheaded pack. I thought it would be funny if Aventine Keith was harrassed by people asking for his "Roman Rioters". ;-)
Simon
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Thanks for the info! I can still pester him if you'd like ;)
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I have to admit, first time I've seen them I have tried with Aventine site and couldn't find them there as well. Only then I have understood they are convertions :)
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lol
I'm meeting Keith next week, he's a great chap. And Adam the sculptor.
Simon
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qXoh3oWKopM/T7LeBu4wPpI/AAAAAAAAEEI/q1O1rHirYNk/s1600/Roman+Mob+WIP.jpg)
Prof, this is what I'm up to. Not done yet, but well on the way...
http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/mob-handed-wip.html (http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/mob-handed-wip.html)
Cheers, Simon
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What a lovely bunch, very well done :-*
It’s always a good feeling to get finished the first considerable lot of a project, isn’t it? :)
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Hi Prof, yes indeed, thanks. The worse point for me on a project is the bit before the minis go on the bases, they never look much good until then. These are now at the great point where the back of the work is broken, and from now on they are just going to get better.
I have bitten the bullet and ordered the parts I need for my Roman tenement idea, so, in due course, they will have somewhere to riot in front of!
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Looking forward to seeing the tenement, any particular manufacturer being used?
Hi Prof, yes indeed, thanks. The worse point for me on a project is the bit before the minis go on the bases, they never look much good until then. These are now at the great point where the back of the work is broken, and from now on they are just going to get better.
I have bitten the bullet and ordered the parts I need for my Roman tenement idea, so, in due course, they will have somewhere to riot in front of!
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Hi Poitier, I'm planning to scratchbuild, based on Connolly artwork, but using some Antenociti parts such as doors and small windows. I'll make a 2 storey building with shops on the ground floor and an apartment in the middle. If I'm happy with how it comes out, then I might try a taller building.
Cheers, Simon
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Looking forward to it. Had bite that bullet as well and bought the Roman villa from Najewitz Modellbau. Expensive piece but impressive. Now got loads of single parts to stick together and paint. Will see, maybe I'm going to ask Grimm to paint it for me :)
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Gettng someone else to paint things is always a good strategy! :-)
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I always paint my figures but terrain isn't that easy for me for some reason, most of my terrain is painted by other people :)
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Most of my terrain has been bought, painted, too. I very much like to get stuff painted, in general, I like really big armies and it's the only way! However I'll often go on to detail minis. Some of my favourite units have been bought on eBay and "tarted up".
Simon
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Wow!
This is INSPIRING!
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All these lovely Roman projects! I was going to post pics of my gladiators en masse, but maybe I'll wait til you talented folks tone it down a bit! lol
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Come on, Chris, you dont need to hide, your stuff is great, you just have to post it :)
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All done, at last! I'm quite chuffed with them.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OBxP6IJff-c/T7khZSOdSVI/AAAAAAAAEEU/8ayFRaMBB_g/s1600/Riot%21.jpg)
There are more photos on the blog, and some background material on who and what they are.
http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/imbellis-populus.html (http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/imbellis-populus.html)
Cheers, Simon
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That is seriously cool. I had my doubts about the multibasing with tables and such, but you've squashed them. Fantastic!
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Love them.
The basing really works and makes them look like a real rabble arming themselves with street items.
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"Finally," he says. All that excellent work in just two weeks!
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Excellent. What a rabble! :-*
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Thanks all! Cheers, Simon
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hey,
Good work of conversions. In the old time i have done similar work but on my 15mm Spartacus army.
If you want to add more variation to your romans, look in the greek/romans/carthaginians light infantry range like these simple examples in the Crusader ranges. Do this for each manucfacturer and the options are endless o_o :
with a simple change of heads, these lybians get the job !
(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/anc004.jpg)
Without any change, the numidians :
(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/img837.jpg)
With these balearic slingers, just cut off the sling for hand to hand weapons :
(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/ans010.jpg)
Roman for roman civilians, logical isn't it ?
(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/anr006.jpg)
Penal legion, no change :
(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/anr007.jpg)
etc.....
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Thanks- I'd not thought of headswaps on the Numidians. I do have quite a few of those in use as as Numidians, but I don't like them quite as much as the Foundry Numidian range (which I could headswap... hmmm).
OTOH the Roman LI and Penal Infantry would work nicely... I'll bear them in mind if I need to expand the mob!
Cheers, Simon
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Forgot that ones from Crusaders, German youth. With roman heads and you get very poor roman mobs or direct out from the public bath :
(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/img661.jpg)
I used them for slave in arms in my amazon project.
and these trojans at Redoubt :(http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/shop_image/product/ad428a1e58c81f527e15f52bba787ae5.jpg)
And from Gorgon studio (ex spartan's Artizan) :
(http://www.gorgon-studios.com/images/spartans/bbd005.jpg)
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Inspired by this thread, I bought some Aventine gladiators, slaves, leves etc. Really nice figures. I immediately compared them to some Foundry Darkest Africa I have, and was stunned that many of the figures have bodies that are practically identical matches. I sent an email to Aventine out of curiosity.
Hello,
I received the figures I ordered yesterday, they look good.
I was wondering who your sculptor was on the gladiators, and the Leves, which look like they may have been done by someone else.
The nude gladiators are almost identical in style and pose to some of Foundry's Darkest Africa natives and look like Mark Copplestone did them. He's my favorite sculptor and my interest was piqued.
Thanks,
Matt
The response:
Hi Matt
Yes you are right about the Spartacus range, they are based on Copplestone Darkest Africa sculpts. Mark left Foundry with his green and used them on verious ranges, they were bought up by Companion Miniatures and were not part of the sale to the current owner. We produce that range for the original owner of Companion.
Long story ...lol
The leves RR04 are sculpted by Adam Smith.
Cheers
Keith
How about that? I'm really going to enjoy painting them!
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Matt, we have a whole thread on that:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=39195
Glad to see you in our Ancient camp :) And it would be totally awesome to see some of your works on these lovely figures!
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Matt, we have a whole thread on that:
Ooops! I should have searched. My defense is that I didn't frequent the Ancients forum until now :)
I'm a little shocked that I'm that familiar with the native bodies of the Africa range. I am reminded of this quote, by Plynkes, which could potentially be applied to me as well :o
This one is for Hammers, he likes to see a well-made native lad does our Hammers.