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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Jonas on 07 June 2012, 06:53:14 PM
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For this years Horisont in Esbjerg (Denmark), I will be bringing several projects, one of them will be Moth from Alternative Armies.
Since I have almost no terrain I can use I decided to start doing some in good time.
And since the Ion Age miniatures have a very oldschool look I decided to do some cacti like the 40K 2nd edition Death World Cacti.
This is what we managed to do for today.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth002.jpg)
Materials.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth003.jpg)
I made two bases and my wife made one (which had a bit more savage look than mine :o )
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth004.jpg)
And since my camera was out, and you are probably wondering what Moth and Ion Age is, I took a photo of my three first finished miniatures.
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Neat! Those Alternative Armies figures look great!
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Very nice - what are the dates for Horizont this year?
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Cool start, looking forward to more models and seeing the cacti finished :)
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Horisont is the last weekend of November each year :)
More info here: http://www.horisontesbjerg.dk/ (http://www.horisontesbjerg.dk/)
I have run into a problem with the cacti, the air drying modeling clay has not dryed over night, so I guess I have to wait a few days before moving onto next stage.
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Thanks Jonas
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And slowly there is some progress...
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth005.jpg)
I used some chinchilla sand and tile adhesive to make some texture on the cacti.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth006.jpg)
Painting them dark green base coulour.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth007.jpg)
Heavy drybrushing with some OOP goblin green.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth008.jpg)
Red spikes (of course).
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth009.jpg)
And some sand on the base and they are done.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth010.jpg)
Since I finished one more model, we get another group shot.
You might have noticed that I haven't painted the bases of the cacti, but this is going to wait untill I do the boards and get some paint for that, so they can have the same sand colour as the board.
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very nice! You put the ret in retro! And the ro too, to avoid sillyness... ;D
They work really well with the Ion Age minis. Must be the abundance of old school images floating in my head, but they just, well, fit... 8)
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Nice cacti mate.
You could have added a third db tone to it of super yellow green (necrosomething cryx green!?) to give it a bit more life but, well, guess you gotta stop somewhere. Or maybe it's just part of the whole retro thing to have them a bit on the duller side of things.
Anyway looking forward to seeing where you're going with all of this. I'm thinking about painting the goblins in orange brown skins.. would that be a disaster you think?! lol
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Orange/Brown goblins would probably work fine, it works fine on Hobgoblins, so why not on these?
Anyway, I think I have such a yellow green paint somewhere, but I don't know if I will use it, I am mostly satisfied by how they turned out so far. I might try it on a test cactus at some point though, I could always go back and add it to these if it looks better.
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A minor update, I have been building a bit more terrain
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth011.jpg)
The new terrain shown with the cacti I already did.
They are made from some seed capsules I bought cheap after Christmas some years ago and never used for anything, before now.
I used my hotglue gun and glued them to some cd's and also added a small cactus to one of the bases.
When I have added sand to the bases and painted the bases they are done, I don't think the capsules need paint.
Maybe I will add some smaller plants, I need to raid a petstore for some aquarium plants.
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Yet another inspiring project! I do like the retro look, it's making me want to return to my own alien scenery collection and add some cacti. I already have some paper balls left over from before on various sizes. I'm doing some alien stuff for my Spice Lice this weekend hopefully so maybe I'll take the plunge :)
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They are easy to make and useful for many things, I plan to use them with Moth, 40K second edition, Fantasy games, VSF on Venus and probably much more.
The hardest part (for me) was waiting several days for the modeling clay to dry, I was expecting it to dry over night, but it took 2-3 days before it was ready for next stage.
Luckily I have plenty of projects going on, so I had lot of other things to work on while I was waiting.
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I'm really digging the "old school vibe". :-*
Cool stuff!
Good use of the lotus pods.
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The old school look is pretty cool. The scenery and the miniatures are lovely- plus they don't look too serious/drastic styled like the majority of stuff does today.
Out of interest; which rule set would you use for playing something like this?
Cheers
Andy
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I am going to use Moth from Alternative Armies, I haven't tried it out yet, so I have no idea if it is good, but so far I have found no drastic negative things in the rules.
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Will you be ready for next weekend? Really wanting to give it a shot :D
Duncan
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No, I have taken on too many things in one go, so I must do my ship and "pirates" first.
I will see how much I can finish for Moth, but I doubt I will be all ready.
I can still bring it if you guys are willing to try the game out with a mix of painted, half painted and unpainted miniatures.
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Yesterday Thorbjørn and I worked on basing some palm trees for a pirate game and some of the trunks were cut shorter, so not all trees had same lenght.
Thorbjørn took some of the cut off trunks with him and claimed he wanted to use them for something not yet decided. I looked at the remaining and thought about what I could do with them and then I decided to build some more alien terrain for Moth.
This is the result so far.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth012.jpg)
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Brilliant idea!!! lol
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if you have ever played warcraft goto zangramarsh those pieces are right out of there
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Hmmm, sorry, but I never played World of Warcraft, I did play Warcraft 2 back in the days, but I can't remember if they had anything like this in that game.
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I wanted to have shown some images of some finished stuff, but didn't get to finish anything today.
While building and painting terrain today I reached one point with these new "trees" almost looking like planets for some space ship battle game.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth013.jpg)
Right now a bunch of terrain pieces are ready painted, bases sanded and are just drying over night and hopefully I will finish a load of pieces tomorrow and have some pictures for you.
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Wow, they look great. I always thought that those seed pods would work well as a place for little nasties to jump out of. ;)
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I think I am beginning to have an ok collection of alien sci-fi terrain, I guess next step will be doing some hills and painting more miniatures.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth014.jpg)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth015.jpg)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth016.jpg)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth017.jpg)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth018.jpg)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth019.jpg)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth020.jpg)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth021.jpg)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth022.jpg)
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Roxxorrr!!!!
Very cool.
although I'll have to say that the symmetry of the CD's ruins it a bit. But what the hell - that's a minor concern.
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Hehehehe, yeah, I thought you would say that, I don't mind that much though, I kind of like the order of it :D
Anyway, I might end up doing some more irregular shapes at a later point, cd's were mainly chosen because it was cheap, easy and what I had available.
I think the problem will be less obvious when I do a table in the same basing colours, but time will tell.
Also I will probably make some single based cacti and such things, to break up the landscape more.
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Looks great Jonas!
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Great looking scenery. Simple but really effective. :D
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Thanks.
I won't be getting any further before next week, as I am going to a festival untill sunday.
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That's a lovely terrain collection you have created for yourself! :-*
Very Dr. Seuss. :D
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Working on miniatures again for a while.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth023.jpg)
Prydian Army.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth024.jpg)
League of Canlaster.
League of Jordan muster troops coming later.
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OK, so lately I have mostly prepared miniatures and put on base colours, so not so much fun, but I should have pictures of new painted models soon.
Meanwhile I have begun working on some domed sci-fi buildings. I tried searching for some to buy, but Kryomek models were too small and the other I could find was temporarily out of print at Evil Mushroom Games, so I decided to give it a go myself.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth025.jpg)
I went to the hobby store and bought some large polystyrene balls.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth026.jpg)
Cut them in half. (You also see one of the Canlaster models in this pic, more coming soon)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth027.jpg)
And an unglued prototype for the door part.
I used lot of time trying to make a cardboard door and had no luck, then I tried finding some cheap doors in resin and didn't really find what I wanted and finally got this cardboard design made up. I think it looks pretty good so far and I will just ignore that the doors have no where to slide to (who cares? it looks good.)
Tomorrow I will build up a short entrance and attach it to a dome.
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Looking very promising. Can't wait to see a finished techno igloo. lol
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(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth028.jpg)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth029.jpg)
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(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth030.jpg)
The usual tile adhesive.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth031.jpg)
One finished bunker... When I have build some more I will add numbers to the doors and make different colour codes on them and probably try to build some connecting coridors for larger compounds.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth032.jpg)
A Canlastrian noble leads the attack against a Prydian outpost...
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth033.jpg)
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Looking very promising. Can't wait to see a finished techno igloo. lol
I think the correct term would be techgloo :D
Other than that, it's really starting to shape up Jonas! Keep it up!
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It does look a bit like an igloo, especially in white, but I think the red stripes make it look more like a bunker than an igloo, hehehe
Also this cost me less than £1 each in materials, so I think it is very much worth it :D
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Looking good.
Some times it is the simplest pieces of terrain that have the most impact. This is certainly the case with your Igloos.
Tony
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Those are right perfect Jonas! :o
I'm impressed. And I haven't got anything that looks like that! lol
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Thanks.
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Certainly simple, but effective!
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I love these techgloos!
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Thanks, I already did one more and I have materials to do a total of six, which should be enough... for now at least...
:)
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Awesome! I'd love to play a game on that stuff!
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A couple of days ago I was at Ikea to buy some bookshelves and while I was there I looked around to see if I could find anything useful for gaming.
I picked up an artificial plant and when I came home I ripped it apart and tried to make some stuff and this is what came out of it:
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth034.jpg)
Based on washers, sanded and basecoated.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth035.jpg)
Retained Canlastrian troopers defend a bunker complex. (Here you see the second bunker I made).
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth036.jpg)
And WIP of some alien plants made from melted drinking straws.
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Brilliant! I especially like your palm trees. :-*
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Looking good. I should be on the lookout for building materials this saturday where I am sadly forced to go to Ikea.
Also. Happy birthday Jonas.
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Unless you're out for the entire weekend you ought to join us in Aulum.
good looking things Jonas. I plan to attempt some melted straws akin to warrenabox's at some point in the future. maybe you can give me some pointers.
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Unless you're out for the entire weekend you ought to join us in Aulum.
good looking things Jonas. I plan to attempt some melted straws akin to warrenabox's at some point in the future. maybe you can give me some pointers.
Yes, I already can tell you not to do it inside, hehehe, smelly and toxic thing.
And Dr. Zombie is of course welcome to join in some gaming fun over the weekend, maybe show a bit Skulldred?
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We managed to get some playtesting done today. Just a small game with 5 models pr side.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth037.jpg)
The playing area. Two small patrols from the League of Canlaster and the Prydian Army run into eachother on their recon missions.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth038.jpg)
The Prydian forces, led by a minor noble of the knight rank.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth039.jpg)
A Baron fighting for the League of Canlaster leading his men.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth040.jpg)
The Canlastrians fire some indirect fire from their Moth Multilauncher, hitting two retained troopers, killing non of them but wounding one.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth041.jpg)
The Prydians target the Canlastrian Baron in the distance and lay down a hail of fire, whiping him out with some armour piercing ammo from their Moth Multilauncher.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth042.jpg)
The Baron just before he falls lifeless to the ground.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth043.jpg)
The Canlastrian troopers return the fire and gives the Prydian noble a wound.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth044.jpg)
While the Canlastrian Moth Multilauncher cuts down two of the Prydian troopers and halfing their unit.
After this point the Prydian noble activated his jump jets to get away from the line of fire and we agreed that the game had ended in a draw.
We had quite some troubles playing with the Moth rules. We both agreed that it was a fun enough game, but the rules are just not very well written and lot of things seemed unclear or strange.
I think there is need for more playtesting before dropping the Moth rules, but I am not convinced that this is going to work out and become a ruleset we will use regularily.
We still love the models and the setting though :D
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At a Danish forum I saw a guy building some desert rocks for Gorka Morka. I decided to try out and do something similar, but it didn't really end like I would have wanted to.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth045-1.jpg)
First I found some cd's for bases and I cut up some cardboard boxes.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth046.jpg)
I glued the stuff together and already here I ran into problems. When the glue had dried up the cd's had warped, but they could easily be broken off and reattached, so first problem solved. Next time I will wait with gluing the cardboard on the bases untill they have dried up.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth047.jpg)
Next I filled up with some filler and glue.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth048.jpg)
This is what it looked like next day. Quite useless and I had run out of filler.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth049.jpg)
Since my budget to do these rocks was nothing I shifted to use my good old tile adhesive.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth050.jpg)
Sanded the bases.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth051.jpg)
Basecoated and so far everything looks ok to me.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth052.jpg)
But after I painted the rocks up in a couple of different colours I ended up painting them like my bases.
I am not really satisfied with the looks, but I don't know what to do different. Maybe they will look ok together with the rest of my stuff.
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I think the problem is they're too consistent. Based on the shape, you'd expect horizontal striations/layering in the colour and quality of the stone.
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Too member like, me thinks.
trysomething less phallic
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I think the problem is they're too consistent. Based on the shape, you'd expect horizontal striations/layering in the colour and quality of the stone
Yep, on Earth the rock spires tend to look like that. 4-X:
http://photosbygoldman.smugmug.com/Other/Southwestern-Landscapes/i-fHs3H7w/0/L/1008234938-Howdy-L.jpg
OTOH the mini versions look more like oversized mud volcanos, possibly formed under less gravity than that of Earth so they might look better if finished off more @ the "sanded the bases" stage:
http://www.cchem.berkeley.edu/clarkgrp/images/Mud%20Volcano.jpg
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I ended up re-painting them one more time (I think I tried 4 different schemes now), they ended up a little better.
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth053.jpg)
But I am pretty sure I can do it better next time. I deffinately have something to improve on, thanks for the suggestions.
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This is a really fun project. The minis and terrain are great it has this wonderful old -school vibe. :-*
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Love it! Great scenery and great models too!!! :)
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I should probably take some status photos soon, I have painted lot of minis which I haven't taken photos of yet.
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(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth050.jpg)
Sanded the bases.
Y'know, on that stage the peaks were looking much better! I think that the rough texture of the sand is too much for a raw drybrush! Better to keep the colours softer!
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On that stage they are not painted at all and the tile adhesive is not dry all over, so the end result could never be like that.
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I know, but you should aim for that kind of look! Less contrast on the drybtush, some differences in some areas!
You will need to do experiments, but i think it will improve the overall look! ^^
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I think they ended up better on the last repaint?
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/jonasfrickmann/Ion%20Age%20-%20Moth/Moth053.jpg)
There is less contrast and I think it looks ok that the rocks are a lighter shade than the ground.