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Miniatures Adventure => Gothic Horror => Topic started by: Commander Vyper on 26 June 2012, 12:08:44 AM
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Well I'm hooked. ;)
Wanted to do something different so thought about the opium dens of the East End of victorian London:
http://vichist.blogspot.co.uk/2009/03/opium-dens-and-opium-usage-in-victorian.html
http://www.qub.ac.uk/imperial/india/opium.htm
So looking to create a chinese (potentially) 'vampire' faction, (Jiang Shi: The hungry ghost clan).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Shi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Shi)
http://guidohenkel.com/2012/02/fu-man-chu%E2%80%99s-vampire-is-now-available/
When ordinary measures are no longer enough, criminal mastermind Fu Man Chu makes use of a supernatural henchman to get his way. Soon, Scotland Yard is confronted with a series of unexplainable deaths that unsettle Victorian London, and Inspector Lestrade turns to occult detective Jason Dark and Siu Lin for help.
But as they look into the case, little do the ghost hunters suspect that the evil crime lord has already made them the vampire’s next target! Filled with enough mystery, drama and suspenseful action to transport you to the sinister streets of gaslit London, your encounter with the extraordinary
Already have some hopping vampires, evil chinese master, the jade mummy (potentially my head vampire) and looking at these TAG minis for thralls:
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=1209&cat=55&page=2&featured (http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=1209&cat=55&page=2&featured)
Maybe these pulp minis too too:
http://www.pulpfigures.com/catcode.php?range=Yangzee%20Gangs&code=PYG&number=11&custID=9281651601340666115 (http://www.pulpfigures.com/catcode.php?range=Yangzee%20Gangs&code=PYG&number=11&custID=9281651601340666115)
Anyone any other ideas, really need to get the rules from Wendy so I can get a better idea but any suggestions gratefully received. Won't go down the myths and legends route until I've got a better idea of backstory, but for now as I say, any suggestions?
The Commander
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Obelisk does these Tong fighters
(http://shop.strato.de/WebRoot/Store2/Shops/61074886/4943/F69F/0FC2/CBFF/B04F/C0A8/28BA/B582/Tangrenbu01_m.JPG)
http://shop.strato.de/epages/61074886.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61074886/Products/%22TAN%2001%22 (http://shop.strato.de/epages/61074886.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61074886/Products/%22TAN%2001%22)
If you stray from the Vampire faction into the Gentleman's club area one of the associations that Gentlemens clubs has allows you to summon a mob of zombies for which you could use the Terra Cotta zombies.
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If a Gentlemens Club could have the option of having some troops flying on warkites as seen in the original League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vol 1
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Hmmm. I'm thinking of Doctor Who, the Talons of Weng-Chiang..... Could make a great Vampire faction. Mr. Sin would look great on the table. (http://www.blacktreedesign.com/northamerica/images/P/dw414.jpg)
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I'd second looking at LoEG vol1 for inspiration. Plenty of, how shall we say, useable stereotypes available :)
cheers
James
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Black Hat do a range of Chinese Fantasy: http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/index.php?cPath=121_147_148&osCsid=2f1755323e20664b6bedcd7bd7a2a54f (http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/index.php?cPath=121_147_148&osCsid=2f1755323e20664b6bedcd7bd7a2a54f)
Including vampires, vampire hunters, zombies, ogres, wizards riding on clouds, etc. and also certain monkeys.
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I would also check out Wyrd Miniatures.
They have a Resurrectionist (http://wyrd-games.net/shop/RESURRECTIONIST/) and themed minions (Kirai & crew) that would work well if you are after creatures, spirits and monsters.
They also have some Mercenaries (http://wyrd-games.net/shop/OUTCASTS/) that could be useful either as-is or with some simple conversion work (namely: Ronin, Ten Thunder Brothers, Misaki).
I fact, it's worth a good look through their range in general if you're not already familiar with it, as it is full of steampunky types that could fit into EotD quite easily.
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If you stray from the Vampire faction into the Gentleman's club area one of the associations that Gentlemens clubs has allows you to summon a mob of zombies for which you could use the Terra Cotta zombies.
It's the rules I need to see what 'fits' my ideas so thanks for this, yup have the terra cotta zeds in a box somewhere so nice idea.
Black Hat do a range of Chinese Fantasy: http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/index.php?cPath=121_147_148&osCsid=2f1755323e20664b6bedcd7bd7a2a54f (http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/index.php?cPath=121_147_148&osCsid=2f1755323e20664b6bedcd7bd7a2a54f)
Including vampires, vampire hunters, zombies, ogres, wizards riding on clouds, etc. and also certain monkeys.
Yup got a few of these too and was looking again last night. Want to stay with a victorian theme so may well do some oriental headswops onto 19th Century victoria dress for a little culture clash.
Cheers.
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Mark,
You seem to have China on your mind a lot these days... ;)
But don't forget Bushido....
I know its Japanese, but the large dragon is very nice indeed and still looks very chinese.... ( i was thinking of doing a chinese vampyr faction myself just because of all those old chinese ghost stories... )
(http://www.bushido-thegame.com/sites/default/files/styles/uc_product_full/public/Dragon_Promo.jpg)
There are also some other figures that would work well... like monks and old men etc etc... Oh, and the models are very very nice indeed....
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You could add in a mob of Boxer Rebellion henchmen too.
Maybe even let them be actually bulletproof
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All really good ideas and currently not too expensive as I have a number of minis already. Methinks tis time for the rulebook so I can work out direction of travel.
End of the day, I'm not looking to shoehorn a chinese faction into the equation, but create a reasonably myth and historically linked group, with a definate victoria flavour.
The Commander
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These should be nice and useful too, (again from Black Hat)
(http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/images/DK23.jpg)
If you look into the zeotrope 'ring' in seven days sir...you will expire!
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The main question is...
What are you going to do for scenery ;) :D
cheers
James
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The main question is...
What are you going to do for scenery ;) :D
That is the only thing stopping me from doing EotD.
The whole point of the game, as far as I am concerned, is to play it in London.
Otherwise it just becomes another variant of Vampire Wars, where most people play a country enviroment.
Urban Victorian just seems so much of a commitment that, frankly, it scares me.
Dont get me wrong, I aint scared of doing the scenery, it would be great fun, but not too much longevity in it.
Still looks like a lot of fun, and the way it is attracting attention on here, it looks well doable.
Maybe we need to group our plans and make sure we have an amazing BLAM(!???!) game where we all have to bring an item or two of scenery and see what happens....
My tuppence.....
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http://www.tmterrain.co.uk/large-projects/victorian-london.html
Inspirational? :P
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http://www.tmterrain.co.uk/large-projects/victorian-london.html
Inspirational? :P
Yes! It is!
But lets be honest.....how often would you use it?
There are not too many games where you could.
The reason I suggest the idea of a 'bring your own thing' kind of event is to make it worthwhile.
I have a whole cupboard full of scenery that was mainly built for Mordheim, but deliberately made it 'non-specific' as I know that it would be better to be able to use it in more than one game.
Victorian London is so specific that it is difficult to justify that kind of commitment.
I have no problem with making any kind of scenery, so long as it will be used.
Maybe we need to come up with some sort of local group thing where we can all borrow everyone else's scenery......
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The main question is...
What are you going to do for scenery ;) :D
cheers
James
Get massive mates rates hopefully... ;)
I know what everyone means though. I was going to go for a small cobbled board with maybe a monument theme in the middle, a viaduct at one end to give it some depth (have a load of resin railway arches and such like that i bought when a model shop closed) and maybe some faux terracing one side, (probably not as it wouldn't suit the momument). Of course if I get the chinese sorted there's always victorian chinatown...;)
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I'm going for East End docks...
Already have a couple of ships that would work well and add another dimension to play....
So small terrace streets, warehouses, the odd church yard and some warfs with docked ships...
Suitable for many EotD scenarios, and after all, Limehouse was THE Chinatown in the 19 century...
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Can't believe I'm getting sucked into another fecking project! ;)
Oh well at least I have a chance to play local eh Bagshot old bean?
:D
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Can't believe I'm getting sucked into another fecking project! ;)
Oh well at least I have a chance to play local eh Bagshot old bean?
:D
Indeed dear boy, could be the first game in your new pavilion of dreams.....
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http://www.tmterrain.co.uk/large-projects/victorian-london.html
Inspirational? :P
You do realise that is our very own Malamutes?
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You do realise that is our very own Malamutes?
I was waiting to see if someone would spot it lol
And here is some of it in action:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=3720.0
There are some other AAR's somewhere back in the VSF board or Gothic board all,part of the same campaign.
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Get massive mates rates hopefully... ;)
Well, I'll just have to see... ;)
cheers
James
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I love Chinese Kung Fu / Fantasy stuff! :-*
Chinese Ghost Story, Mr. Vampire, Encounters of a Spooky Kind, etc. etc, ...
You need a Taoist Priest Vampire Hunter to keep those Undead in check. :D
I've been eyeballing some of the Black Hat minis for a while now.
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No, I hadn't until now. I wasn't a LAFophile back in 2007 and tend not to follow VSF (for fear of being sucked into another genre/period).
I was waiting to see if someone would spot it lol
And here is some of it in action:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=3720.0
There are some other AAR's somewhere back in the VSF board or Gothic board all,part of the same campaign.
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That is the only thing stopping me from doing EotD.
The whole point of the game, as far as I am concerned, is to play it in London.
Otherwise it just becomes another variant of Vampire Wars, where most people play a country enviroment.
My tuppence....
Actually, if you read the interview with one of the authors, the whole point is not to necessarily play it in London. They went out of their way to design it so that it could be played in a multitude of backdrops and settings. I plan on playing either in Africa or in America.
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I love Chinese Kung Fu / Fantasy stuff! :-*
Chinese Ghost Story, Mr. Vampire, Encounters of a Spooky Kind, etc. etc, ...
You need a Taoist Priest Vampire Hunter to keep those Undead in check. :D
I've been eyeballing some of the Black Hat minis for a while now.
Already got, just need to find them all, (in the final process of building decorating my gaming studio/study so little boxes, little boxes.... etc.. ;) And Mr Vampire, chinese ghost story and the like are personal favourites of mine too.
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Mr. Vampire (which features a sterling bit of work form the late and lamented Lam Ching-ying) and the other jiang shi movies do take a bit of different angle on the whole zombie/vampire/revenant thing from the western standards. Here in the barbarous lands of the white devils, the undead rise because of some external (evil) influence, but in a proper Middle Kingdom jiang shi story it's mostly the other way around - if the dead aren't properly prepared to keep them inanimate, they will come out to suck your qi.
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Last night a took a couple of some very old grenadier horror minis, (the classic nosferatu in cape, stake weilding hunter and one with a revolver) and cleaned them up, took the solid bases off whilst watching Frightnight (2011) (appalling film, though there is a camo by the original actor that played 'Jerry the vampire') Anyway I digress...
Today the deed is done, rulebook, some vampire wars minis, bushido heads from the SHS range and a few other odds and sods ordered with the lovely Wendy.
Here we go again!
;)
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Ahhh, the thrill of the chase....
And just think, only 8 or so figures to paint!
Or even less if you fancy playing the jack the ripper scenario with maybe a Chinese Vampyr instead of Jack?
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True, all very promising.
Found my Black Hat figures (two hunters, a priest sorceror and another vampyr, add that to the other five 'bound' vampires (ideas for vampyr entrapment after watching Mr Vampire again ;)) and there's plenty to choose from. I'll have a better idea as to what I'm doing once the rules arrive.
Also there's a demo game running at Bovington Ian so get your faction painted and bring along? (Yes I said you get them painted: stop sniggering!) :D
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so get your faction painted and bring along? (Yes I said you get them painted: stop sniggering!) :D
Damn it man, just choked on my soup!
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Bleeding 'ell two of the best miniature ranges around and you want more suggestions... that's a challenge.
How about Eureka?
http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/chinese-pirates-78-c.asp
Old Glory?
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=XCW-06
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Those Old glory ones were the ones that Wendy at westwind was talking to me about, I think I'll have a little dip cheers.
The Commander
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I have those OG among my Chinese Pirates and Rioters as well as Wild West.
Those Old glory ones were the ones that Wendy at westwind was talking to me about, I think I'll have a little dip cheers.
The Commander
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I have those OG among my Chinese Pirates and Rioters as well as Wild West.
Ok... so some pictures or your thoughts on them would be nice? ???
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Found my Black Hat figures (two hunters, a priest sorceror and another vampyr, add that to the other five 'bound' vampires (ideas for vampyr entrapment after watching Mr Vampire again ;)) and there's plenty to choose from
You'll need to model your martial artists figures with pieces of paper (with Taoist spells written on them) instead of hand weapons 8)
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No I'll need peachwood swords, coin swords, sticky rice, Ba gua mirrors and a healthy dose of chicken blood ;)
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Just seen this on Frothers, could provide plenty of inspiration
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/28/first-red-band-trailer-for-the-man-with-the-iron-fists-hits-even-harder-than-you-might-expect/
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No I'll need peachwood swords, coin swords, sticky rice, Ba gua mirrors and a healthy dose of chicken blood ;)
You definitely know how to hunt Chinese undead! :D
I have those OG among my Chinese Pirates and Rioters as well as Wild West.
I own these OG minis too. They were a great deal. Not the prettiest miniatures in the world but they have a lot of cool weapons.
I posted mine in my mythos thread.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=37127.msg452680#msg452680 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=37127.msg452680#msg452680)
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You definitely know how to hunt Chinese undead! :D
I own these OG minis too. They were a great deal. Not the prettiest miniatures in the world but they have a lot of cool weapons.
I posted mine in my mythos thread.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=37127.msg452680#msg452680 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=37127.msg452680#msg452680)
Cheers. I try ;)
How about a few shots with LAM and Westwind Figures for scale comparison?
Cheers
The Commander
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How about a few shots with LAM and Westwind Figures for scale comparison?
Sure, I'll post them tonight or tomorrow.
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Basically just a re-skinning of the Nosferatu faction, but how about something based on the 7 Golden Vampires from the Hammer Movie!
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Not quite, as Baggy pointed out, I can go in three directions with this, Gentleman's Club, vamps and weres. Just waiting on the rulebook due tomorrow and I can start working this through. Looking for more oriental mythos stuff currently. Hellderado stuff looks really nice, but I think a little too big.
Onward search engine onward!
;)
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I've got an unpainted pack of these fellows you can have if you'd like to work out a trade:
(http://displacedminiatures.com/images/1.img.1285683965P9200390.JPG)
Good luck! Looking forward to seeing progress!
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Leadasbestos: Yup shoot me a PM and we can talk turkey.
Well the game's afoot, the rules and a smattering of minis arrived today, (ordered Thursday pm). So thanks again to Wendy for ultra quick shipping.
Also EM-4 miniatures stock a large range of D10's so a bulk order placed with Doug yesterday, (to supplement my old RPG days dice stocks). Knowing that Doug has sold his soul to the god of ultra prompt shipping I expect those dice today ;)
Now, where did I put my pneumatic stake.....
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Grrrrrr!!! I ordered my rules and figures on Monday and I am still waiting.
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Unusual, unless there was a casting delay for something? Give Wendy a bell I reckon.
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How about a few shots with LAM and Westwind Figures for scale comparison?
Here's a link. :)
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=37123.msg505417#msg505417 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=37123.msg505417#msg505417)
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Ta.
Ordered some Brigade games chinese tong and a smattering of Ironclad miniatures and some LAM odds and sods.
Damn, hooked again! ;)
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Can't wait dear boy.....
I've been feverishly painting mobs, policemen and general street scum....
My painting table looks like a BBC Dikens production in miniature.....
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Egads sir! You painting!!!!!! :o Is one suffering from the collywobbles again?
;)
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EotD seems to have got us all at it, I have spent the day painting the first four of my Asylum for Wayward Victorian Girl's faction, should be finished tomorrow.
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Good stuff all round. Have now read the rules a few times, and seriously noting a lack of decent chinese victorian minis, if this goes on I think I'll have to get my own sculpted as I have a perfect idea of what's needed. We'll see how it all pans out.
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How about "Xiang Lung, Chinese Villain" from Reaper?
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/50170_w_1.jpg)
I picked up some Chinese Pirates/Bandits last year for a Cthulhu/Fu Manchu game last year, so I'm looking forward with interest to how this turn out.
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Foundry do a pack in the Victoriana range:
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/victoriana/victoriana/chinese_tongs_vc027/
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You could also use the Foundry river pirates ;)
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Reaper: nice call I'll get Tim at miniature heroes to get me one cheers.
Foundry: a little too short I reckon, (that and the fact that the sculpts are pretty naff too sorry) ordered some brigade games stuff over the weekend so see how that pans out.
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If not mentioned already there are foundry chinese pirates that would fit in well, also worth looking out for some Boxer rebellion figures too
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If not mentioned already there are foundry chinese pirates that would fit in well, also worth looking out for some Boxer rebellion figures too
Again mate Foundry = stunted. Unless by some more pics I can be happily proved wrong?
Anyway lets wait for the latest batch of lead to come through first see what I end up with. ;)
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Foundry may still work for southern Chinese, who (used to) tend to be shorter than northerners...
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True, but as these are small factions I want to chose the best of the best. The way it's going currently, if I'm not happy with what I have, I'll sell them and get exactly what I want sculpted and cast them myself.
Cheers
The Commander.
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True, but as these are small factions I want to chose the best of the best. The way it's going currently, if I'm not happy with what I have, I'll sell them and get exactly what I want sculpted and cast them myself.
Cheers
The Commander.
I'd really be interested in a range like this! :-*
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Ditto!
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Castaway Arts & Redoubt both have boxer rebellion ranges and Eureka does some Chinese pirates that might work for you. These ranges are all a little taller than Foundry.
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Another average range I'm afraid (castaway stuff), I'll take another look at Eureaka prehaps but again I need to wait and see what the postie brings and see how it fits.
Cheers
The Commander
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I have a few of the Pulp Yangzee gang figures - I bought them cheap/pre-painted to use as mooks in a quick throw-down.
They are smaller than my Westwind VW stuff - but something there may catch your eye?
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The Foundry river pirates are Copplestone sculpts totally independant of the Perrys Taiping stuff
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Browsing for various bits and came across these any good to you?
http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=d2fe1233e1cf43df945eec65856ad0c5
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Browsing for various bits and came across these any good to you?
http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=d2fe1233e1cf43df945eec65856ad0c5
oooo :o be nice to see some comparison shots, but the top set look idea, shame there aren't more firearm posese.
Cheers bud.
The Commander
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Also finally found and ordered these, (lets hope they scale up ok or they'll be off with all my old foundry wild west stuff that I'm never going to use in a million years! ;)).
(http://images.frpgames.org/products/product_35790.jpg)
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Did someone mention the Obelisk Miniatures ones yet?
(http://www.obeliskminiatures.com/TANGRENBU1-3F.JPG)
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Also finally found and ordered these, (lets hope they scale up ok or they'll be off with all my old foundry wild west stuff that I'm never going to use in a million years! ;)).
On the contrary, good chap. All the ones that you don't find fitting because of some flawed detail, awkward pose or even size issue can be turned into zombies to populate your table. ;)
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Oh yeah. zombies eh, who'd a thunk it....
;)
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Chinese underworld factions in a western/London setting in movies. "Shanghai Knights" and the Jackie Chan version of "Around the World in 80 Days" Also look at "Big Trouble in Little China". The written story was set in 1880s San Francisco.
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Also finally found and ordered these, (lets hope they scale up ok or they'll be off with all my old foundry wild west stuff that I'm never going to use in a million years! ;)).
(http://images.frpgames.org/products/product_35790.jpg)
Sorry mate. You should have asked me. I would have took a few scale comp shots. :D
Personally I think they scale up nice.
I'll be purchasing the Brigade Games tong gang soon (from their Victorian range). Ill let you know how they scale up.
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Sorry mate. You should have asked me. I would have took a few scale comp shots. :D
Personally I think they scale up nice.
I'll be purchasing the Brigade Games tong gang soon (from their Victorian range). Ill let you know how they scale up.
Got em already ;).
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probably a bit late now, but spotted these on a blog I follow.
http://www.fantization.com/jadetriadempireja.aspx (http://www.fantization.com/jadetriadempireja.aspx)