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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: Sir Barnaby Hammond-Rye on 04 July 2012, 12:12:54 AM
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Will there be a suitable faction to oppose all these wonderful Bruegelburg soldiery?
Perhaps something more Italian City-state?
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For the time being I would classify the Militia of Bruegelburg as a “foe“ of the Landsknecht mercenaries. More fractions? Yes, I hope so, but nothing short-term.
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I think a good place to start for this in lieu of the Prof working on opposition as in Mordheim are White Knights Rennaisance dwarves which fit with the old GW/Marauder ones and also his Orcs and goblins again supported perhaps by the Foundry Ogres
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Yes, I have a large collection of the Foundry Great Orcs. I was thinking a human faction. I'm not really up on the "historical" period so I wasn't really sure what another human faction would look like. Rival Landsknechts is always a possibility, of course. About the only thing I could picture were Italians with their pavise shields...
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Yes, I have a large collection of the Foundry Great Orcs. I was thinking a human faction. I'm not really up on the "historical" period so I wasn't really sure what another human faction would look like. Rival Landsknechts is always a possibility, of course. About the only thing I could picture were Italians with their pavise shields...
Our Landsknechts also will have pavises.
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I'm actually going to recruit some Landsknechte into my evil WHFB 3rd edition army. They will be alongside the likes of Black Orcs, Ogres and Hobgoblins...
They will be fighting against some classic citadel dwarves, and naturally the LAM dwarves.
So, anything goes around here, really :)
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....I'm not really up on the "historical" period so I wasn't really sure what another human faction would look like....
Turks/Ottomans would be a wonderful option, plenty of scope there. Could also consider Wallachian, Georgian or early Russian types or going the other way Polish.
Any of those have a distinct look/asthetic that would set them apart.
Fantasy Ottomans done in the LAM style would be awesome.
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For Humans you could always go with some of the TAG Italian Wars range, they may be a bit slight though
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Agree with sir BH-R!
Landsknechte historical opponents were the Italian (obviously not only them). It would be cool to see Arlequin's suggestion (here (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=39242.msg458683#msg458683)) realized. I'd really like to see a Giovanni dalle Bande Nere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_dalle_Bande_Nere) model. Would you be interested in some concept eventually? :D
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Fantasy Ottomans done in the LAM style would be awesome.
YESssssss!!!!
Can you imagine how large the turban would be on the Grand Turk after having been Ratnik'd!
(I do have the sculptor correct - yes?)
(I've actually been thinking of getting some fantasy Harads/Turks done. They would be loosely reminiscent of the old Der Kriegspieler line, but also channelling Calorman (Narnia) and Ottoman influences.)
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Fantasy Ottomans done in the LAM style would be awesome.
oh, missed this suggestion! DITTO DITTO DITTO! :P
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I think a good place to start for this in lieu of the Prof working on opposition as in Mordheim are White Knights Rennaisance dwarves which fit with the old GW/Marauder ones and also his Orcs and goblins again supported perhaps by the Foundry Ogres
Nah, they're rubbish and the bloke's a [censored]. ;D
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About those Dwarves. I took a look the other day but I got the impression that many were not available any more - that is, they seemed to be "limited run" things. Is that the case?
Howard
green27@sympatico.ca
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About those Dwarves. I took a look the other day but I got the impression that many were not available any more - that is, they seemed to be "limited run" things. Is that the case?
what Dwarves? LAM or WK ones? LAM Dwarves are full available:
http://www.lead-adventure.com/index.php?cPath=23
WK ones as well as far as I know :)
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They are still available and more are being worked on.
They're all on this page:
http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.be/search/label/All%20posts (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.be/search/label/All%20posts)
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Just had a thought - if LAM Turks were done that would be a fine excuse for LAM "Knights of Malta".
I can picture the Grand Master of the Order in my mind's eye... 8)
And Old Glory Shipyard already makes the galleys! ;)
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oh, missed this suggestion! DITTO DITTO DITTO! :P
That! :D
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For foes, I'd like to see a variety of 'Boschian' and 'Brueghelian' critters:
(http://www.marxist.com/images/stories/art/bosch/The_Garden_of_Earthly_Delights_by_Bosch-pig_nun.jpg)
(http://www.myartprints.co.uk/kunst/hieronymus_bosch/akg2-r40-t1-1500-8.jpg)
(http://www.talariaenterprises.com/images2/jbg06a.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4015/4333822439_1bd677b260_z.jpg?zz=1)
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Really cool idea Dr. Mathias. :-*
It would be really interesting to see some Bosch creations in miniature.
A REAL chaos army! :D
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Not pig-nuns....
Although Glynis thinks the chap vomiting dice could make an interesting dice-tower
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The H Bosch monsters are a subject that I've been meaning to sculpt since I started but never have the time! I love them so much I have one tattooed on me! ;D
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The H Bosch monsters are a subject that I've been meaning to sculpt since I started but never have the time! I love them so much I have one tattooed on me! ;D
You should dig this site then- that is, if you haven't seen it yet :)
http://www.talariaenterprises.com/product_lists/parastone/bosch-garden-earthly-deli.html
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You should dig this site then- that is, if you haven't seen it yet :)
http://www.talariaenterprises.com/product_lists/parastone/bosch-garden-earthly-deli.html
Awesome! Bookmarked! Thanks. :D
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You should dig this site then- that is, if you haven't seen it yet :)
http://www.talariaenterprises.com/product_lists/parastone/bosch-garden-earthly-deli.html
Aye, they sell them in the UK National Gallery giftshop. TBH I'm not overly impressed with them in the flesh, maybe I'm just too much of a miniature's man!
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The H Bosch monsters are a subject that I've been meaning to sculpt since I started but never have the time!
You know what, prof? If you want to talk about doing this I'd be really interested in helping you out, depending how you work with sculptors for LAM. 8)
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You should dig this site then- that is, if you haven't seen it yet :)
http://www.talariaenterprises.com/product_lists/parastone/bosch-garden-earthly-deli.html
Some of the Breughel and Grunewald stuff would make interesting miniatures as well.
http://www.talariaenterprises.com/product_lists/parastone/breugel-fall-angels.html (http://www.talariaenterprises.com/product_lists/parastone/breugel-fall-angels.html)
http://www.talariaenterprises.com/product_lists/parastone/grunewald-temptation-anth.html (http://www.talariaenterprises.com/product_lists/parastone/grunewald-temptation-anth.html)
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Yes, the inclusion of weird monsters would make this range the greatest ever made. Imagine the scenarios.
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Including Bruegel style monsters would set this range apart from pretty much everything else on the market for sure.
In lieu of other opponents for Bruegelberg, there's its alter-ego 'Boschstadt' (think Springfield and Shelbyville in the Simpsons). While one is a 'free town', the other might be amongst the holdings of a noble, who jealous of the loss of potential trade to his town by the proximity of the other, might be constantly plotting and acting against them. The forces involved would be pretty much identical, Militia and Landsknechts for the most part, with some rural and urban knights (the range needs these!) thrown into the mix... and cannon of course.
;)
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Well, Jim, this is pretty much what I’m having in mind as one-day-possibility :)
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Well, Jim, this is pretty much what I’m having in mind as one-day-possibility :)
;D waiting that day!
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Well, Jim, this is pretty much what I’m having in mind as one-day-possibility :)
I was just trying to illustrate that the potential for action and adventure existed without going too far from Bruegelburg and using what already exists within the range (mostly). If you really want to release more figures to represent 'the enemy', then that will probably be okay with your customers.
;)
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Including Bruegel style monsters would set this range apart from pretty much everything else on the market for sure.
In lieu of other opponents for Bruegelberg, there's its alter-ego 'Boschstadt' (think Springfield and Shelbyville in the Simpsons). While one is a 'free town', the other might be amongst the holdings of a noble, who jealous of the loss of potential trade to his town by the proximity of the other, might be constantly plotting and acting against them. The forces involved would be pretty much identical, Militia and Landsknechts for the most part, with some rural and urban knights (the range needs these!) thrown into the mix... and cannon of course.
;)
This would be a very cool idea!
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I can't claim any originality really, it was pretty much what went on in Germany and the Low Countries for much of the medieval era. People like the Duke of Gueldres, Wilhelm von der Marck and Pier Gerlofs, to name but a few, were always up to some mischief or other. Petty rivalries and skirmishes were a constant feature of life at this time, but often don't make the history books. It makes sense that somewhere like Bruegelburg would not have to look very far for enemies.
;)
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I saw a french language film once which featured two rival villages. They meant at the half-way point and played a game sort of like soccer or rugby with pretty much all the men from each village on each side. It was more like a confused melee and didn't seem to have any rules. I ddidn't see the whole movie so I don't know what it was all about orwven the name of the film. It's along the lines of what you are talking about though: inter-village rivalries.
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What about Mercenaries like John Hawkswoods White Company.. Also papal states soldiers..
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I also vote for the Turks. So many of the outfits are already so extreme (e.g. the Delis), that they would make fantastic Ratnik subjects.
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Some of those monsters would really make the range stand out. Something totally otherwordly and fascinating about them.
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TURKS TURKS TURKS!!
The second seige of Bruegelburg must be portrayed!
(pretty please) ;)
CG
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Back in the 1980's Minifigs used to make an extensive range called Valley of The Four Winds based on the works of Hieronymous Bosch. I had a few of them and rather good they were too (for Minifigs). I expect you can still get them on eBay from time to time...
Obviously a LAM version would be even better ;)
But it has been done before :)
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TURKS TURKS TURKS!!
The second seige of Bruegelburg must be portrayed!
(pretty please) ;)
CG
Yes this sounds Great,,,,,,,,And we need a Vlad the Impaler figure.
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turk or somthing like............................
and why not with flying carpet ? ;D
To add a fantasy touch to the range. lol
Ideal for siege warfare
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I like the idea of the second rival city. If people want Turks, then maybe as mercs?
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If there were Turks as well that would open the way for the "Borderers" - Croats, an similar with a mix of influences. The Barbary Pirates had Muslim and Christian renegades in their midst.
I'd also like a Ratnik'd "Order of the Knights of St. John" if I haven't mentioned that before!
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I think the Turks would be pretty cool