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Title: Factory
Post by: matakishi on February 21, 2008, 08:45:01 PM
I made a factory today, as a change of pace from painting Somalis (51 done, 18 to go...)

(http://www.matakishi.com/Factory%20build%2021%20600.jpg)
(http://www.matakishi.com/Factory%20build%2022%20600.jpg)

Details here:
http://www.matakishi.com/factory.htm
Title: Factory
Post by: PeteMurray on February 21, 2008, 08:50:24 PM
That is a very nice factory but please tell me you didn't paint 51 Somalis today.
Title: Factory
Post by: assi on February 21, 2008, 08:55:11 PM
\m/ rocking
Title: Factory
Post by: matakishi on February 21, 2008, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: "PeteMurray"
That is a very nice factory but please tell me you didn't paint 51 Somalis today.


I based them today, I painted them yesterday  :roll:
Title: Factory
Post by: Overlord on February 21, 2008, 09:05:42 PM
Very nice Paul.  :love:

Just be carefull.......some people on Ebay have been know to try and copyright general building designs.  See TMP for a long boring thread on the matter. :lipps:

Coincidentally I saved the pic of (Likely) the same auction with the same idea of making one myself. :)
Title: Factory
Post by: theoldschool on February 21, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: "PeteMurray"
please tell me you didn't paint 51 Somalis today.


I painted 96 figures for the War of Spanish Succession last night. Okay, they're 6mm, but it still counts sort of :lol:
Pat
Title: Factory
Post by: muppetman on February 21, 2008, 09:59:02 PM
I love your buildings man... i looked for cork.. do you know how hard it is to find cork... i hate my town :cry:
Title: Factory
Post by: revford on February 21, 2008, 10:06:23 PM
Looks great, nice interior too.


Quote from: "muppetman"
I love your buildings man... i looked for cork.. do you know how hard it is to find cork... i hate my town :cry:


I too had no luck on my cork hunt.  :(
Title: Factory
Post by: Lowtardog on February 21, 2008, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: "revford"
Looks great, nice interior too.


Quote from: "muppetman"
I love your buildings man... i looked for cork.. do you know how hard it is to find cork... i hate my town :cry:


I too had no luck on my cork hunt.  :(


Have you looked in the kitchen tile areas, B&Q or Homebase normally has some
Title: Factory
Post by: dominic on February 21, 2008, 11:16:34 PM
Lovely work!
Title: Factory
Post by: twrchtrwyth on February 22, 2008, 04:04:32 AM
Quote from: "Lowtardog"
Quote from: "revford"
Looks great, nice interior too.


Quote from: "muppetman"
I love your buildings man... i looked for cork.. do you know how hard it is to find cork... i hate my town :cry:


I too had no luck on my cork hunt.  :(


Have you looked in the kitchen tile areas, B&Q or Homebase normally has some

B & Q is a dead loss for cork these days. I managed to pic up 3 packs of tiles in the Queensferry one ages ago, they had very few left and they were on sale to get rid of them. This is after buying a pack of the treated tiles by mistake. Those were the 3mm thick ones. I emailed Siesta Cork tiles and they sent me their price list and some samples. This was to get the 9mm thick cork. Reasonable price, about £5 for a pack, but they charge £10 delivery for orders under £50. When I asked at B & Q if they would order from Siesta they didn't want to know. I'm going to try Homebase next.

Only Matakishi could say he built a factory today with such nonchalance. Very cool as always. 8)
Title: Factory
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 22, 2008, 06:51:00 AM
damn, Paul, it's just cool, this is exactly the sort of factory I will need soon. Have to try to build it, too.
Title: Factory
Post by: Grimm on February 22, 2008, 08:39:48 AM
wow that one is nice !
Title: Factory
Post by: Malamute on February 22, 2008, 08:40:34 AM
Very nice as always, Looking forward to seeing soem photos of the whole set up with the Somalians :)
Title: Factory
Post by: revford on February 22, 2008, 11:17:40 AM
Quote from: "Lowtardog"
Have you looked in the kitchen tile areas, B&Q or Homebase normally has some

Quote from: "twrchtrwyth"
B & Q is a dead loss for cork these days.


I had the same result with 2 branches of B&Q, the local one told me to try the big one, the big one told me they don't stock them anymore.


Quote from: "twrchtrwyth"
I emailed Siesta Cork tiles and they sent me their price list and some samples. This was to get the 9mm thick cork. Reasonable price, about £5 for a pack, but they charge £10 delivery for orders under £50. When I asked at B & Q if they would order from Siesta they didn't want to know. I'm going to try Homebase next.


I'll have to see if I can get enough local gamers interested in cork to get in a bulk order.
Title: Factory
Post by: matakishi on February 22, 2008, 11:43:35 AM
I've just ordered £60.00 of cork from Siesta. Their products have changed since I last bought from them so Here's a quick run down of what's what:

Nevada Natural 305mm x 305mm x 3mm. This looks to be the 'standard' cork tile (like B&Q etc) but actually isn't. It's too thin, bendy and open textured. I've ordered a single pack to see if it's usable for anything and I'll report back.

A-B-Cork 300mm x 300mm x 4mm costs about £8.60 for a pack of 9 which is more expensive than B&Q cork. The tiles are the right colour and texture and a  little thicker and tougher than the ones I've been using up to now. I ordered 5 packs and plan to use these as my mainstay building tiles.

Biscay Wallcork 300mm x 600mm x 8mm very dense, very hard and comes in double size tiles. You get 4 for about £10. I ordered a pack or two to see how they work for terrain. Cutting them for buildings will be too though.

Previously I have bought (and still have lots of) Pincork 300mm x 300mm x 8mm which is an open textured thick tile good for stone walls and brick bases etc (see Boxer Rebellion buildings) and also good to layer as hills but no good for buildings as it's too thick to cut perpendicular.

Edit: Regarding delivery charge, if you order 2 packs of tiles the delivery adds just over 50p to the cost of a tile. Even at £1.50 a tile it's a cheap material when you consider you can get more than one building from a single tile. The small houses we made at my school club work out at about 30p each for the cork at the above tile price ( 12p each if you buy from B&Q)
Title: Factory
Post by: Jules on February 23, 2008, 08:54:45 AM
Wicks sell them 7.95 for 9
Title: Factory
Post by: muppetman on February 23, 2008, 09:22:18 AM
you need to spend over £50 or you get slapped with a £10 small delivery charge...
Title: Factory
Post by: muppetman on February 23, 2008, 09:27:22 AM
Matakishi!!
Have a look at this one, i was thinking of trying it out..
http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-2-1738-6623-floor-cork-tiles-unsealed-3-16%22-4.75mm.asp
Title: Factory
Post by: matakishi on February 23, 2008, 10:35:17 AM
They look ok, a bit thick so it'll be tiring to cut out lots of windows but they certainly look usable.
Title: Factory
Post by: UncleRhino on February 26, 2008, 12:58:17 AM
You are a tremendous inspiration to us all!  I love seeing how simply and yet effectively you use common materials to get a terrific finished project.

UncleRhino
Title: Factory
Post by: matakishi on March 22, 2008, 02:50:49 PM
I've added an incinerator to my factory since I had a spare afternoon.

(http://www.matakishi.com/Forge%2012%20600.jpg)

(http://www.matakishi.com/Forge%2013%20600.jpg)

Details:
http://www.matakishi.com/factory.htm
Title: Factory
Post by: Ironworker on March 22, 2008, 03:08:23 PM
That's really nice!
Title: Factory
Post by: Sangennaru on May 01, 2008, 12:17:28 PM
cork? i can't understand why u use cork instead of plastic foam! i mean, that's sooo useful... what is the advantage of corck? :)
Title: Factory
Post by: matakishi on May 01, 2008, 11:41:00 PM
I make all my wargaming buildings from cork. I prefer it to the normal choice of foam board for several reasons; It is easier to cut, easier to glue and easier to paint. Cork is far more resilient than foamboard and considerably cheaper to buy in the UK.
Title: Factory
Post by: fastolfrus on May 02, 2008, 09:04:53 AM
Quote from: "matakishi"
It is easier to cut, easier to glue and easier to paint.


Agree on that, but we were given a stack of foamcore boards (48 boards 6 foot by 3 foot) from a conference.
Despite being free, they are awful to cut, fiddly to glue, take extra effort to paint. We were slightly surprised to find that the large boards warp considerably too.
Our only real advantage that stopped us going for cork ?
They were free.
But we might start using cork for some of the more important projects.
Title: Factory
Post by: Sangennaru on May 02, 2008, 02:26:58 PM
well... first of all i find that cutting foam is quite easy... and there's also another advantage: the final project is more accurate! if you need to texturize it as a concrete wall, you just need to add some sand, and the same for a lot of other surfaces. if you use corck (very irregular, as shown in the picture), i can imagine that is quite difficult to give him a flat aspect, if you need it! :)

dunno, i never used it, but i used foam for a lot of projets! ^^
Title: Factory
Post by: matakishi on May 02, 2008, 02:42:48 PM
One side of the cork is perfectly smooth. The other has a light texture which means you achieve a concrete effect without having to add anything.

If you prefer using foamboard then that's fine, nobody's trying to change your mind. However, since you've never used cork, you don't know which is better, you're just assuming.
Title: Factory
Post by: Aaron on May 02, 2008, 02:51:38 PM
I have yet to find cheap cork here in the states, but I have to admit I have not looked too hard as I also have a stock of free foamcore.

One detriment to foamcore is that the foam wrecks blades in a hurry.