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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Dalauppror on 06 August 2012, 08:03:19 AM

Title: AAR The last battle of Tord Bonde, 1456
Post by: Dalauppror on 06 August 2012, 08:03:19 AM
Hi

I just posted a AAR of a 15th century "Kalmar Union War" game I and my Danish friend Sören played using the Hail Caesar rules at my blog:  (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/2012/08/last-battle-of-tord-bond-15th-century.html)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa319/dalauppror/Medieval%20Swedeish/AAR/Tord%20Bonde%20120802/1.gif)

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: AAR The last battle of Tord Bonde, 1456
Post by: Stuart on 07 August 2012, 05:48:28 PM
What a great write up, a good balance of the strategies of gameplay and the historical outcome, not to mention some stunning looking figures.

It looks like you've tried hard to get the feel of the armies involved as historically accurate as you can which really shows. Is there a lot of research material and illustrations available for the period or have you found yourself doing quite a lot of that too?
Title: Re: AAR The last battle of Tord Bonde, 1456
Post by: Dalauppror on 07 August 2012, 07:34:55 PM
Thanks Stuart !!!

I try to get my scenarios in line with the historical outcome but then you always have players with their own ideeas and dices...

In english ther is not much of material some odd Osprey books about the period. in Swedish you have some books would say I have abotu 10 or so, this isn´t the most populare part of the Swedish history to whrite about. One of the best books about my period are a biography abour the King Karl Knutsson of the house Bonde that managed to be ruler of Sweden 4 times (3 times King) during the period of 1436 to 1470.

There are not to much illustrations  from this era, atleast not in the books I have got, BUT there are quite lott of churche painting from the time as during the period 1450-1500 very many Swedish churches got stone ceiling, that was decorated with pictures from the good book but all the characters have clothings from the time. One of the most famous painters was Albertus Pictor, you can see some of he´s work here (https://www.google.se/search?q=albertus+pictor&hl=sv&pwst=1&prmd=imvnso&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=410hULGPFYfNsga-3oDIBw&ved=0CEYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=667)

You also have the drawings by the German Landsknecht Paul Dolnstein (https://www.google.se/search?q=paul+dolnstein&hl=sv&prmd=imvnsofd&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=wV4hUPHaGIXGtAbthoC4Bw&ved=0CEMQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=667), but they are from 1502 so the fashion had changed some.

For me the Perry plastics work well mixed up with all kind of minis, Kingmaker, Claymore Casting amongst some. I use minis with , in european terms, outdated equipment mixed with minis with the latest. Give a good mix and a look that are like I visualize the Swedish Allmoge soldiers in a good way:)

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: AAR The last battle of Tord Bonde, 1456
Post by: Stuart on 07 August 2012, 08:03:06 PM
I think you've got the mix about right, the Kingmaker minis lend themselves especially well for the lesser / poorer armed and also to give the impression of that slightly different European feel.

Looking at your blog immediately brought to mind the fantastic Army museum in Stockholm and also the statue of St George c.1470 in Stockholm cathedral;

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Stockholm-Storkyrkan_%28St.Georg%29.jpg

I can see why the WOTR figures lend themselves so well, and from the info above and mentioned in your projects there are quite a few similarities to the lives and struggles of the English kings of the period.

I know how frustrating it can be to find that a colourful period in your nation's history has depressingly little in the way of reference material but it does make it all the more exciting when you do 'find' things.

Keep it up!
Title: Re: AAR The last battle of Tord Bonde, 1456
Post by: Captain Blood on 07 August 2012, 10:51:27 PM
Excellent, Michael  :-*
Title: Re: AAR The last battle of Tord Bonde, 1456
Post by: Dalauppror on 08 August 2012, 10:28:27 PM
Thanks mates !

@Stuart, nice to hear that you been to Stockholm, if you come here again please let me know and I get you a cold beer and a game at our club:)

about the statue of St George... it was sculped as a memorial of the Sten Stures victory over the Danes at the Battle at Brunkeberg 1471 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brunkeberg), the horse actually have the Coat of Arms belonging to Sten Sture at the harness...so it might not be St George but Sten Sture...and we all know how the dragone looks like...Kristian I of Denmark :D

Tha army museum are a good one, would recomend the medieval museum and the historical museum to-

Best regards Michael