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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: FATROC on 06 September 2012, 06:56:57 AM

Title: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: FATROC on 06 September 2012, 06:56:57 AM
Appears to be some type of Soviet era land train (Command Vehicle?).   :o  Any info on this vehicle would be great. It would be a GREAT way to ride out the Zombie Apocalypse.  :-*
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: Nimrod on 06 September 2012, 07:42:21 AM
This was a test vehicle for the new tractor chassis.
Only one ever been producted
Top part of this vehicle basiclly a m62 locomotive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M62_locomotive

Lower part being a new chassis for heavy tractor.
More a technical joke then a proper vehicle. :)
You can see a couple more pictures of this thing here: http://scaletrainsclub.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2605
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: FATROC on 06 September 2012, 07:46:35 AM
Thank you for the information.
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: Dr. Zombie on 06 September 2012, 08:00:39 AM
I love that you can post a picture of some weird russian machine asking what it is and that someone answers with all the info in it in less than an hour!

There is some serious braintrust here.
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: Arlequín on 06 September 2012, 02:50:38 PM
Only one ever been producted

Then why are there two?  :?
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: zizi666 on 06 September 2012, 05:09:39 PM
Then why are there two?  :?

I'm guessing one IS a train (in the pic with the 2 vehicles)
As for the different colour schemes : probably before and after military paint job.
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: Nimrod on 06 September 2012, 06:00:58 PM
Then why are there two?  :?

This photo, not a real vehicle, just a fake picture made in photoshop.
(http://www.aleksandr.ru/files/126/12wheels.jpg)
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: FATROC on 06 September 2012, 09:16:54 PM
There may actually be 3. I found another that is slighly different in detail. Of course, they could all be the same vehicle with slight modifications, and paint job.   :?  It is still pretty cool.
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: Nimrod on 06 September 2012, 09:41:59 PM
Quote
There may actually be 3. I found another that is slighly different in detail. Of course, they could all be the same vehicle with slight modifications, and paint job.   Confused  It is still pretty cool.

I checked online sources on this locomotive again, just to be sure, and all of them says that is the same locomotive, only with different painjob.

This is how he looks now:
http://foto.rambler.ru/users/bors23/albums/13739168/

Other pictures were made when testing was in process.


Even found the place where this locomotive now located on google earth :)
https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=ru&geocode=&q=%D0%91%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%8B&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.460237,70.488281&ie=UTF8&ll=55.433357,38.23586&spn=0.001774,0.004302&t=k&z=18&om=1



Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: Arlequín on 06 September 2012, 10:31:04 PM
I'm quite impressed with it overall. If they had gotten the transmission to work effectively, they essentially have a highly mobile, if a bit slow, massive electric generator, providing they kept the locomotive engines that is.

 :o
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: FATROC on 06 September 2012, 10:58:31 PM
Thanks everyone! You've all been helpful. This beast has gotten the wheels turning in my mind to create a "Post-Apoc" Land Cruiser for my 28mm Neo-Sovs.
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: YPU on 06 September 2012, 11:07:05 PM
I got to agree, my first instinctive reaction to this topic was to look for model kits of that train or similar and ramshackle games wheels that would fit it to create a vehicle like that. For some reason the look really works for me.

EDIT: Anybody else notice that in the second and third picture the third wheel from the front is crooked and flat/misshapen in a very similar manner?
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: FATROC on 06 September 2012, 11:10:57 PM
I LUV Ramshackle! They have the best mix and match parts. I was also thinking that 1/35 scale tires for some of the larger vehicles (LAV, modern U.S. 5 ton, etc...) might work. I've already started searching ebay for O scale train engines.  :D
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: zizi666 on 07 September 2012, 03:40:17 AM
EDIT: Anybody else notice that in the second and third picture the third wheel from the front is crooked and flat/misshapen in a very similar manner?

Yup. You'd expect the first wheel to take damage on difficult terrain, not that one.
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: Arlequín on 07 September 2012, 09:43:58 AM
Anybody else notice that in the second and third picture the third wheel from the front is crooked and flat/misshapen in a very similar manner?

It's because it's the same vehicle.. different paint jobs. Apparently they married up the loco with the chassis of one of the Soviet multi-wheel/steer missile carriers. When they tried it out, something broke and they left it as it was.

 :)
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: YPU on 07 September 2012, 10:07:59 AM
It's because it's the same vehicle.. different paint jobs. Apparently they married up the loco with the chassis of one of the Soviet multi-wheel/steer missile carriers. When they tried it out, something broke and they left it as it was.

 :)

What really gets me is that if you look at the extra image FATROC posted you'll notice the metal plating over the hole left after the train coupling was removed. The brightly painted one still has this hole showing while the military drab one has what looks like the same cover over that hole. So, considering the green version is its current shape one can assume the bright one with the hole uncovered is the oldest picture. There that wheel is tuck like that. Then there is the picture still in the bright colours but with the hole covered and all wheels in alignment, the thing is actually on the road. And THEN there is the picture of it painted over, assumed the latest which has the wheel stuck in that same way again. Its weird. Its a completely minor thing that probably will never get answered, but it boggles my mind a bit.
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: Ulu Elsomalien on 07 September 2012, 02:22:17 PM
Green drab does have side windows after the door, train doesn't (but have heat outlets/air inlets).

it boggles my mind a bit.
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: YPU on 07 September 2012, 09:12:12 PM
Green drab does have side windows after the door, train doesn't (but have heat outlets/air inlets).


Actually, taking another look at the pictures I think they are taken from different ends of the vehicle, its a locomotive and they quite often have "front windows" facing both ends.
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: bandit86 on 08 September 2012, 09:23:45 AM
Any interior pictures anyplace?
Title: Re: HELP!!! What Vehicle is this?!?
Post by: georgec on 09 September 2012, 01:03:51 PM
 Isn't it the tansporter chassis for one of these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-21M_Pioneer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-21M_Pioneer)

Which is what we used to know as an SS20 when I was a lad...  If so, it has a wheel missing.

Of course, even with 12 wheels it is a bit of a lightweight compared to this 16-wheeler:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-2UTTH_Topol_M (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-2UTTH_Topol_M)

If you were going for a 28mm version, you might start out with this, a 'hatchback' compared to the other two

 http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal5/4101-4200/gal4170_Scud_Yair/00.shtm (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal5/4101-4200/gal4170_Scud_Yair/00.shtm)