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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: thebinmann on 17 September 2012, 10:26:01 PM
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Which ones should I go for
1980s citadel
Foundry
Mongoose?
My heart says 1980s citadel.... but....
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1980s all the way.
Go with figures with Soul.
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Been bitten by the bug after watching the new film, eh, Adam?
The Mongoose stuff is not bad, I reckon, but sticking with your collection of classic minis, I reckon you should go '80's Citadel, mate.
;)
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Laserburn!.... For that classic retro look..... But, I am partial to 15mm....
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I'd say anything but the Citadels, but that's because I don't want any more competition on E-Bay right now. ;)
If you want something smaller, and original, I'd have to say Citadel. For price and availability I'd say Mongoose. I have no opinion on the Foundry stuff because those are way too much for someone in the states.
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The Foundry ones are a damn site easier to paint, but I doubt you will be doing them yourself anyway. Wait for the next mega sale and fill your boots. There is no joy like paying the earth for an old Citadel and breaking his ankles when he arrives ::)
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The Foundry ones are a damn site easier to paint, but I doubt you will be doing them yourself anyway.
You Sir have shocked me, perhaps I need to search out my dueling brush!
I'll have you know I have some brushes and five post of paint (plus two wases), though no blue or yellow......
@inforjunky Dredd in 15mm, are there perps and all?
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80's Citadel are my favourites, capture the feel best, but, they are getting pricey, but I do have a bagful of painted ones i'm thinking of selling! ;)
Mongoose are the most available and nice sculpts, but may or may not get a whole range out of them
Foundry are lovely, I have them all but I think of them a s display pieces rather than gaming with, again an incomplete range
PM if you want a pic of the 80's Citadel models I have
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If I go for Dredd I'd have to do it bit by bit so I suppose Citadel would suit that most, adding the fun of finding them.....
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And I look forward to seeing your painting of them too, after you get upto seven pots of paint that is ;D ;D
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First I need to mix green and yellow from tin bitz, chainmail and black!!!!!! lol
But starting the collection is a long way off as I have other commimets at the moment... it's just I found my old Judge Giant and a few badly painted minis the other day....
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@inforjunky Dredd in 15mm, are there perps and all?
Unfortunatly not as many as other newer releases... Laserburn predates GW's releases.... Well to be honest Laserburn is a precursor to 40k and by that extension GW's Dread.....
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it's just I found my old Judge Giant and a few badly painted minis the other day....
Painting minis a few at a time is how I get through most projects. The minute my lead pile for any single project gets too big I immediately loose interest and find some other shiny objects to occupy my time.
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I prefer the Mongoose Option myself. Far cheaper and it's getting bigger as a range.
The Foundry stuff will fit in for just a few characters.
The Citadel ones look really squat in comparison. Again, good for the odd character (like Don Uggie, Fast Eek and Joe Bananas!)
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Sorry to revive this ...
Sorely tempted with a few Mongoose figures [Angel Gang, Dredd, Walter and maybe a PSI] but Foundry is an option as i work out of Nottingham now and again.
Thoughts on the figures please (the price is ridiculous so lets take that as read)
Cheers,
James
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Foundry at least has uniform Judges, unlike the Mongoose ones.
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Thoughts on the figures please (the price is ridiculous so lets take that as read)
Not wanting to get on a bashwagon detour, but I consider Foundry's pricing (4 pounds a figure) slightly better for value than Mongoose/Warlord's 5 pounds (both are rather expensive, but then what does one expect regarding licensed ranges).
Personally, I consider the Foundry range the better in overall terms. Having painted figures from both, the Foundry ones have overall sharper sculpts, all being excellently cast, whereas the older Mongoose figures were rather soft in execution; newer Mongoose seems to be sharper, but suffers from some awkward anatomy at times. I intend to get the Angel Family/Gang myself at some point and will most likely go for the Foundry option.
IMHO, the major point in favour of the Mongoose range is that it is far more comprehensive, the Foundry range seems to be more character-focused and aimed at collectors rather than for gaming purposes. If you are content with using the most prominent pro- and antagonists, it will serve admirably, but personally I find Foundry's lack of perps disturbing.
I'll probably use ex-Grenadier future warriors figures for perps (as I have a number of those already painted). They work together quite well, albeit a bit smaller than Foundry.
That is one of the main issues with the range, though - the Foundry figures are large. It's something of a boon, IMHO, as the prices seem less awful for a 32mm figure than for a "traditional" 28mm, but it can lead to issues if you wish/need to proxy other designs from the stories. The Foundry judges are not that bad, but Johnny Alpha and Wulf Sternhammer, for instance, are huge figures. Now, given that they appear tall (and lanky in Johnny's case) in the comics, that is okay, but it means you will be hard-pressed to find matching figures outside of the Foundry range.
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Thank you for that - much appreciated.
In which case, i'll speak to Foundry and see if they can put a pack together for me of Dredd and the Angel Gang. I'll look to see if they do a model of Dredd on his Lawmaster.
They're only the figures i really want so size compatibility is not an issue.
Cheers
James
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East Riding Miniatures gangers in slicks match the Foundry Judges quite nicely. I had them and the police troops for Citi-Def.
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I could never decide.... so I have both citadel and mongoose ones. With a few foundry judges thrown in for good measure. :D
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Good to hear that the Mongoose figures are compatible with Foundry especially as Mongoose look like they're bringing out a couple of Judges on Lawmasters :D
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I would say go with Mongoose also, dabble in Foundry or GW as you see fit to bolster and add variety. The problem is Foundry isn't adding anything to their line and it is getting out of date, GW's while several figs like the Ape Gangsters look great people are just asking stupid amounts of cash for the figs...at least here in the US.
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I've found both foundry and mongoose work well.
Just don't try the old citadel range lol
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I like the citadel stuff as stand alone. Classic cartoonesque sculpts that look so nice with decent pj's. Too many overpriced minis out there though. I got lots! Almost all painted now as well.
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Thanks fellas,
People are wanting silly money on Fleabay for single GW figures. I can see the appeal but i'm not THAT interested when there are alternatives
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(http://pbr940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Comissions/news005-1.jpg?t=1353755235)
Just a few of the tonnes of JD minis Dr F's been painting for me.
Just one more large box to send off then that's all the citadel and foundru ones done.
Then onto the mongoose kickstarter. ;)
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Very nice ...
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I could never decide.... so I have both citadel and mongoose ones. With a few foundry judges thrown in for good measure. :D
ME TOO ME TOO
I like the citadel stuff as stand alone. Classic cartoonesque sculpts that look so nice with decent pj's. Too many overpriced minis out there though.
Citadel are the best range in terms of true to the day, as they came from the day I guess, and the range of perps and muties is by far the best!
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flogged all my judges to WK, but the heroclix judges were sculpted by the same guy who did most of the Foundry judges, so scale well and match uniform wise - I converted them on a couple of mongoose lawmasters...
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I had an odd experience with Mongoose last week.
I bit the bullet and ordered 3 figs I was after direct from Mongoose (Dekker and the two cadets), as Dekker has not not been released by Warlord yet and I didn't want to wait.
When the figs arrived I was very disappointed with the quality of the casts, they are soft and missing detail, so I wrote to Mongoose and told them as much asking for them to either send me replacements or a refund.
The next day I recieved a full refund from Mongoose.
Fair enough you say, I have three figs, (albeit poorly cast), for free. but there are two things that bother me.
Firstly, I still want to get hold of decent casts of these figs, are the casts from Warlord going to be any better?
Secondly, the way Mongoose refunded the cash without even arguing the point, or offering replacement casts suggests that they knew the casts are rubish but are selling them anyway.
On the one hand, top marks for the prompt refund but on the other, what are they doing selling substandard casts for 5 pound a pop in the first place???
Does the failure to offer replacement casts mean thay can't produce any better?
I'd appreciate feedback from others who have these figs on the quality of the casts.
Based on this experience, I'd avoid buying anything else from the Mongoose line until I could be sure the quality was up to standard.
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Reading the WL site it does look like they are going to be responsible for casting from now on. I can't imagine that WL would want to catch the flack from sub-standard casts.
I'm rather pleased that i didn't press the button on a Mongoose Angel Gang now that was going cheap(er) on EB.
I'll see what there is available at Partizan this wkd
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whoa!
(From the KS update.)
From top left working across, then down, we have...
A brand new Judge Dredd (we'll call him Judge Dredd 3), a new sculpt by Shane Hoyle (these are all Shane Specials) that was done in his spare time - so that was a lovely surprise for us when it plopped through the post box. Shane had not told us he was working on it!
We also have a variant Cal-Hab Judge...
On the end, a new Street Judge, this time with a Lawrod (Shane is also apparently working on a new Female Street Judge with a Stub Gun...).
On the bottom left, a Female Punk Gang Leader, likely destined for the Starter Set (coming out in November, just in time to be claimed by the Chief Judge pledges, so they can expect a big box coming through the door in time for Christmas!
Finally, a brand new Heavy Weapons Judge with Lazooka - I love this model, the detailing on the weapon is just gorgeous (if a weapon can be described that way!). For those of you who have not yet received Specialist Judges, this is the Lazooka-armed Judge you will be getting - the previous model is being retired.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/312226/posts/577967/image-314311-full.jpg?1377250089)
now those are good...
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I'm rather pleased that i didn't press the button on a Mongoose Angel Gang now that was going cheap(er) on EB.
I got good casts when they were first released. Lovely minis.whoa!
(From the KS update.)
now those are good...
Hopefully they'll be cast up well. Love the punk.