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Title: Hollow Point Bullets - Where is that from?
Post by: karlosrolero on 22 September 2012, 09:37:01 AM
Hi there again ! I've been looking the posts from strange aeons and I've seen this equipment... I think I didn't see it on the rulebook... Does it come in the Black Goat Magazines or in one of the expansions? I can't afford the expansions yet  so I'm wandering... What do that bullets do?

Also for curiosity (and for lazyness) If someone know and can explain easilly what do that bullets do and why IRL tell me good sirs.

Bye !
Title: Re: Hollow Point Bullets - Where is that from?
Post by: Cherno on 22 September 2012, 11:35:28 AM
Hollow Point Bullets are designed to expand in soft tissue and thus cause deadly internal injuries apart from the entry point itself.

The bullet has a flat or inwards-conical tip instead of a pointed tip normal armor piercing bullets have.

A normal bullets could fly straight through an unarmoured target and only leave a relatively small wound canal, while HP ammo rapidly deforms upon impact and loses velocity inside the target, tumbling and ripping through tissue.

The downside is that it can be ineffective against armored targets or those behind hard cover.

Long story short: To take down a large bear, use HP. To take down an enemy soldier wearing body armor, use normal AP ammo.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/40SW.jpg)

Title: Re: Hollow Point Bullets - Where is that from?
Post by: Sangennaru on 22 September 2012, 12:30:12 PM
Impressive indeed.
Title: Re: Hollow Point Bullets - Where is that from?
Post by: Cherno on 22 September 2012, 01:22:59 PM
Here's a slow-motion clip of hollow point ammo going through a block of gelatine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTHo0K2Sc0g&feature=related
Title: Re: Hollow Point Bullets - Where is that from?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 22 September 2012, 01:50:09 PM
Rules in Shocking Tales 1 and in Morbid Adventures.
Title: Re: Hollow Point Bullets - Where is that from?
Post by: styx on 22 September 2012, 01:51:56 PM
i would suggest you get Morbid Adventures, it has most everything from new Lurkers and such compiled into a book along with tons of new scenarios. Plus the first PDF  is $5, the second is $12. Pace your spending and you could aquire them one at at time plus the PDFs would be right there and ready to enjoy.
Title: Re: Hollow Point Bullets - Where is that from?
Post by: karlosrolero on 22 September 2012, 01:58:38 PM
Thank you everyone ! i'll buy Morbid Adventures then when I've got spare money. Interesting ammo, I didnt know it worked that way. now its logical why its useful to fight monsters lol
Title: Re: Hollow Point Bullets - Where is that from?
Post by: superflytnt on 24 September 2012, 10:45:02 PM
It was actually outlawed for a while as it was considered to be against the Laws of War (pre-Geneva Conventions) as it was spefically designed to kill soft targets and produce devastating hydraulic shock in a target. After the invention of harball ammo and jacketed ammo, most wounds were pretty much 7-8mm holes, as if someone put a dowel through the target. But this ammo creates a large wound cavity because the bullet widens upon impact, which delivers much more kinetic energy onto the target.

In a lot of states, they're the only legal longarm round for hunting because they tend to kill rather than wound game.
Title: Re: Hollow Point Bullets - Where is that from?
Post by: LidlessEye on 25 September 2012, 05:50:58 PM
I was surprised to discover that many law enforcement agencies use these bullets, on the basis that their more rapid deceleration upon striking a target reduces the likelihood of the bullet passing through and causing collateral damage.
Title: Re: Hollow Point Bullets - Where is that from?
Post by: superflytnt on 25 September 2012, 06:43:51 PM
People can take quite a few 9mm ball rounds if they don't get hit in vitals, whereas a 9mm JHP will essentially explode. Cops these days are switching to "frangibles" which are generally polymer-bonded projectiles made up of small (dust sized) BBs which act like hollow points but cannot penetrate walls (even sheetrock) because they literally explode. Some others are made of copper, which have serrations to cause fragmentation. In either case, the bullet enters, explodes inside the target, and causes incredible trauma without danger of overpenetration, exiting a wall and killing a civilian, or ricochets.

Copper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQozpZEbjk8
Polymerized: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyRUY2Fw80U

I actually keep the Glaser Blue Tips in my .40 caliber handgun at home, in my hand safe.