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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: H.M.Stanley on 19 October 2012, 09:45:55 AM
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Gentlemen,
I appear to have picked up by mistake a bunch of very well painted Copplestone British. I was told that they were Italians. Oops! lol
Inter-War is not my period so forgive a daft question. What are the figures suitable for? Palestine/NWF?
I could look it up but where's the fun in that and i've not posted on here for a while.
Many thanks
James
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Show us a picture of them?
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If they're Copplestone they should be good for everything from WW1 Palestine/ Gallipoli to late 1930's gaming. Not sure if any units still had uniforms/ rifles like this in WW2..possibly some units in places like East Africa/ China?
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Thanks chaps,
These are the guys in (blue) shirt sleeves with Officers from the Copplestone British Back of Beyond range (unsurprisingly)
I'm thinking the 3rd Anglo/Afghan War and the Waziristan 1919/1920 campaign
Cheers
James
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Ohh and using TS&TF rules although i'd need to have a think about the Lewis LMG
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So, i have 3 x Officers, 3 x Lewis guns and 22 Riflemen.
Enough for a CO, 2 x 10 Sections and a small Lewis unit with a couple of spares
I'll have to give some thought as to how to use the LMG (i think one is enough at this scale)
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I'm still not sure whether to post on here or Inter-war for this side project: 3rd Afghan War/Waziristan Campaign 1920
However, i think i've found an idea for a nice scenario ..
http://www.nam.ac.uk/exhibitions/online-exhibitions/road-kabul/heroes-villains
and a couple of photos
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=47158.0
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Alternatively the conflict between the British and the Russians along the TransCaspian railway might be tempting...
The orbats are interesting
On the British side
19th Punjabis (3 Coys + MGs)
1 Coy 1/4th Hants
2 sqdns 28th Indian LC
a Btty 44th Royal Field Artillery
The Transcaspian forces amounted to
2 armoured trains (one improvised for combat, the other for logistical support)
1000 Armenians and Russians
4 field guns
4 SBMLs
several hundred Turkmen tribesmen
These faced the Tashkent Soviet's forces supplemented by substantial numbers of ex Austro-Hungarian POWs
with three armoured trains and access to the border arsenal at Kushkh.
I can recommend the Conflict Studies Research centre article by Michael Sargent, 'British Military Involvement in Transcaspia (1918-19) April 2004,
se2.isn.ch/serviceengine/Files/RESSpecNet/87659/.../04_apr.pdf
Also C H Ellis 'The British Intervention in Transcaspia 1918-19'
http://www.archive.org/details/britishintervent002569mbp
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That is a brilliant little scenario - thank you
And i just so happen to know someone who has an armoured train and Reds .. :D
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And has notoriety in being the first time since the Crimean War that British troops fired upon Russians...
In 25mm I'm sure you could also use those awesome Siberian miniatures Basmachis as Turkomen. Kinda harder to achieve accurately in 15mm which is why I haven't started yet
I'd pictured it visually rather like a Spaghetti Western, or 'the 3.10 to Yuma' with sparse terrain, a few key buildings, some slit trenches and where even a gully or watercourse was a vital piece of terrain
One strange feature of the Transcaspian was Y shaped turning loops in the track for locomotives to change direction
A couple of links to sites with images of the Transcaspian Railway
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://images.nypl.org/index.php%3Fid%3D50886%26t%3Dw&imgrefurl=http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm%3Ftrg%3D1%26strucID%3D100445%26imageID%3D50886%26parent_id%3D100120%26word%3D%26snum%3D%26s%3D%26notword%3D%26d%3D%26c%3D%26f%3D%26k%3D0%26sScope%3D%26sLevel%3D%26sLabel%3D%26total%3D38%26num%3D0%26imgs%3D12%26pNum%3D%26pos%3D11%26print%3Dsmall&usg=__VyOPseQufyfGoWbY0Wn9ExsV4Gk=&h=579&w=760&sz=43&hl=en&start=1&zoom=1&tbnid=o8kycJgxKHog8M:&tbnh=108&tbnw=142&ei=tpyHUL3hJoOn0QXSpoCgBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbakharden%2Bstation%26hl%3Den%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/The_Station_of_Bahmi_on_the_Transcaspian_Railway.jpg/400px-The_Station_of_Bahmi_on_the_Transcaspian_Railway.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_stations_in_Turkmenistan&usg=__p5RSqVqq-YmusOk-JWgkgzSSSR4=&h=319&w=400&sz=24&hl=en&start=6&zoom=1&tbnid=37zObfRMpxlDhM:&tbnh=99&tbnw=124&ei=tpyHUL3hJoOn0QXSpoCgBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbakharden%2Bstation%26hl%3Den%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1
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Thanks for that.
I'm going to try this using Iron Ivan's Price of Glory WW1 skirmish rules
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saw this on another forum... a useful ref for you;
"Operations in Persia, by F J Moberly - Official history of the doings in Persia during WW1. Doesn't cover Dunsterforce in any great detail (apparently that's all in the Mesopotamia Campaign official whatnot), but does cover the East Persia Cordon, the Sykes Mission and the South Persia Rifles etc. I'm actually quite surprised at the depth of the background details. A ripping good read."
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saw this on another forum... a useful ref for you;
"Operations in Persia, by F J Moberly - Official history of the doings in Persia during WW1. Doesn't cover Dunsterforce in any great detail (apparently that's all in the Mesopotamia Campaign official whatnot), but does cover the East Persia Cordon, the Sykes Mission and the South Persia Rifles etc. I'm actually quite surprised at the depth of the background details. A ripping good read."
Top Banana! I'll check it out. Thanks
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Any activity on pursuing this scenario yet?
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Only that my preferred rules for the period are now Setting the East Ablaze
Our regular gaming haunt has been nobbled and now we're gaming out of the Back of Beyond (or at least it feels like it) ;)
I'll have to see if Bolshy has recovered from his sabre-rattling injury
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He is/has but with a most distinguished looking scar to add to his collection - all that third person should have been first person!!!!!!!
Am driving again and am out playing with figures on Thursday.
John
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What-O Bolshy old horse-raddish..
Is a sabre cut across the rear unmentionables technically a duelling scar? But i digress
Put me down for next time you're at BF/HQ or White Hart?
I'd suggest the new Mansfield venue but its all a bit Grim. And not in a good way
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How about 23rd May (Thursday) at the club in Derby?
Not too far to drive, plenty of parking, cheapish beer, I think (remember I don't drink and drive so am not sure about alcoholic prices - sounding so sanctimonious its unbelievable) and its after Triples so all my Sudan stuff will be away for a while.
If interested let me know. My lads need to thrash some body cos last time they were out they, how shall I put it, didn't do so well!!!!!
John
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23rd May at the Derby club - you're on
I'll see you at Trips if not before
James
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I'll be there both days.
Trevor was helping on the demo game but he has other more important duties now - and rightly so.
Jose is coming for the day on Saturday to take charge of all the Mahdists and good luck to her say I.
Drop by, indeed the invitation is open to all. The extended river, the attacking hippo, the train will all be in use for the first time.
John
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Jose? Bless her heart for gaming. That's above and beyond the call of duty :D
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this ...
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=47158.msg719371#msg719371
I'll post a couple of photos of the entire bunch
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H.M.,
If my memory serves well, there was an old WWI Palestine variant of TSATF published in the Courier. The variant treated a Lewis Gun as if it were a single Artilleryman, ie it fired 3 dice. I believe it treated hand grenades the same way. Armored cars were classed as class III or IV cover.
Nick
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That's helpful - i'll look that up. Thanks Nick.
Funny enough, i'm gaming The Residency/2nd Anglo-Afghan War on Thurs next week using S&tF