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Title: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: black hat miniatures on 31 October 2012, 11:27:48 AM
(http://www.blackhat.co.uk/images/WW1/halfling2.jpg)

Different style of sculpt this time - chunkier and more comedic style halfling than the previous slimmer looking one.

I think I prefer this style for the range.

Mike
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 31 October 2012, 11:31:57 AM
I like this style as well!

I also think, give him some boots and a beard and he'd make a good Gnome!  :)

The last one was very small, smaller, in fact, than the Hasslefree Halflings.

Lovely sculpting, the hands are a little lazy, but everything else is fantastic. The face has a lot of character.
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: Vern on 31 October 2012, 12:18:25 PM
Must admit, I prefer that one to 1st sculpt (less Kindred looking)
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: Calimero on 31 October 2012, 12:21:09 PM

I prefer the first one too... Can't really say why but this one doesn't "work" for me
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: meninobesta on 31 October 2012, 01:00:23 PM
I must be honest and admit I haven't got money at the moment to spend on this, that is why I haven't commented on your previous attempt!

the ww1 goblins you have acquired are completely ace

and this new chap looks gorgeous! it is still a hobbit but with different traits than the ones by hasslefree

the addition of the mustache is brilliant, if you intend to follow this route I can only agree and try to find some money to buy them

as a sugestion: please try to add some kind of trench mortar to the group (the odder the better) and bits of food or pots to the backpacks!

 :)
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: stone-cold-lead on 31 October 2012, 01:06:42 PM
Not really screaming 'halfling' at me. The first sculpt was good but admittedly perhaps a little too similar to the Hasslefree stuff. This version though doesn't quite work for me. Sculpt quality is fine though.
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: white knight on 31 October 2012, 02:20:38 PM
As said elsewhere, I like it as a standalone, but the size and proportions don't fit well with the goblins. Unlike the first sculpt, this one doesn't appear to be part of the same range.

Also, a certain likeness to the Kindred is not so bad, as compatibility with other ranges is for me usually an incentive to buy into a new project.
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 31 October 2012, 05:22:01 PM
As said elsewhere, I like it as a standalone, but the size and proportions don't fit well with the goblins. Unlike the first sculpt, this one doesn't appear to be part of the same range.

Also, a certain likeness to the Kindred is not so bad, as compatibility with other ranges is for me usually an incentive to buy into a new project.

I agree with this, but I love the style of this miniature on it's own.

as a sugestion: please try to add some kind of trench mortar to the group (the odder the better) and bits of food or pots to the backpacks!

 :)

I also agree with this, frying pans, strings of sausages, the odd baguette never hurt either!

I think it's okay they don't match the Hasslefree Kindred. The Kindred are lovely sculpts, but they don't scream 'halfling' to me where this does. I'd almost be tempted to use the Hasslefree ones as Brownies or Pixies, keeping in tone with the traditional British Folklore... I don't know!

Any chance you could make some 'unit packs'. I understand if this is difficult because of the ways the molds are made up though.

I would love to see some French Halfling Cavalry! Snail Riders, I hear they are very good in the trenches, they do well in a wet environment and they are all terrain animals...
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 31 October 2012, 06:44:24 PM
Equally, Wolf-Riding Goblin Lancers would be lovely...
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: black hat miniatures on 31 October 2012, 10:54:36 PM
Hi

We will be adding unit packs as soon as I can sort it out.

I am planning on running small Kickstarter campaign to get the range up and running which will mean you can help them happen and also buy them cheaper than eventual retail.

All the money raised will go back into expanding the range faster so that people can field complete armies...

Mike

P.S. Wolf mounted Goblin cavalry is on the list...

Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 31 October 2012, 11:11:58 PM
Hi Mike, I'm very glad to hear that!!!

I look forward to the Kickstarter. Hopefully it will be very successful. :)
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: Calimero on 31 October 2012, 11:50:02 PM
...I am planning on running small Kickstarter campaign to get the range up and running which will mean you can help them happen and also buy them cheaper than eventual retail...

That is good news… well, maybe…

I’m not sure I would back a KS campaign with this 2nd figure… on the other hand, if they where to be in the same style as the first figure I surely will. The first figure work very well for an Officer. I think that "rank and file" troops should have beard and moustache… they would look like Poilu then. Figures with haversack with foods and cooking pots would be a nice touch indeed.

I've read somewhere that "moustache du style mousquetaire" was very en vogue then 8)

…and of course if I’m to back a KS campaign for the Halflings French, I will have to bought some Goblin opposition too ;)
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: Conquistador on 01 November 2012, 12:43:12 AM
1)  Liked the first figure but like this one (maybe not as a JRRT halfling) better.  Not sure that not looking like the Goblin (which is meh) stylistically is such a bad idea. 

2)  Ogres?  You mean Bio-Tanks?  With armored Vests and large rifles/small cannons? That would be cool.

If Goblins are Prussian/German, halflings French (and/or English,) would gnomes be Belgian?  What smallish race would be Americans?  Austrians?  Italians?  Russians?

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 01 November 2012, 12:48:23 AM
I wonder why they all have to be diminuative races...

You could have Austro-Hungarian Orcs, Undead Turks...

I think Americans would have to be Treemen, it took them a long time to get involved in the fighting because they had to arrange an Entmoot and we all know how long they take!!! I dunno, just a bit of fun. Perhaps Wood Elves?

As for Ogres as Bio-Tanks, that could work actually... Perhaps carrying HMG's as if they are rifles. There would only need to be one or two.

Hasslefree are releasing some Russian Dwarves, along with a tank and a Treeman, so they have some heavy support!!!
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: Conquistador on 01 November 2012, 01:19:02 AM
I wonder why they all have to be diminuative races...

<snip>

No reason - needle kept hitting the scratch in the record?  Showing my age...  :o 

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: Conquistador on 01 November 2012, 01:33:04 AM
<snip>

I think Americans would have to be Treemen, it took them a long time to get involved in the fighting because they had to arrange an Entmoot and we all know how long they take!!! I dunno, just a bit of fun. Perhaps Wood Elves?

<snip>

 lol 

Wood Golems?   :o  Slow to move?  Or maybe Mud Golems?   o_o

Wood Elves would work.   8)  More akin to the AD&D Wild Elves?   lol

Actually they would not be missed for most early to mid war based on actual battles/campaigns scenarios because... they weren't there (like you said.)  If it wasn't for unrestricted submarine warfare and Woodrow Wilson (oops, this enters the murky realms of American Politics, strike everything after "submarine warfare") I doubt we would have shown up for the party. 

Apocryphal stories exist of Westerners/Southerners joining up thinking we were going to fight the "English" again.   ::)  How true those stories are is debatable I believe.


Gracias,

Glenn

Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: Conquistador on 01 November 2012, 01:39:44 AM
Why limit ourselves to the "usual suspects"? Without getting into anthropomorphic animals or JRRT Redux what other options are there?  Leprechauns? Pixies/Sprites?  Gremlins?

Gracias,
Glenn
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 01 November 2012, 07:11:59 AM
Even so mate, I look at it as fantasy, regardless of historical time period. For Flintloque, I run Vietnam themed games, using black powder and air balloons but With Orc Marines and Kinkon Delta River Goblins...

No reason to limit to the 'usual suspect' except for recognition. If it goes too weird, then it loses all the character. It's easy to associate with what we are used to. AKULA, who did the dwarves that Hasslefree have recently bought ran the game as a 'The Shire in the future' sort of thing, where Hobbiton was a trench-infested warzone in which the Goblins from the Misty Mountains had come to attack and allies from Erebor were streaming in. I really like the idea of JRRT Redux!!!  ;D
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 01 November 2012, 07:14:55 AM
At the end of the day, this halfling is lovely and I would love to see more. I get very excited about this kind of project... :)
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: Conquistador on 01 November 2012, 10:40:13 PM
Even so mate, I look at it as fantasy, regardless of historical time period. <snip>

Excellent viewpoint!

Edit:  I come from the Historical (Hx) side of the house first (I blame OD&D (Fx) and Starguard (SF) for my heresies,) so I like to believe a decent fantasy rules set would (stripped of magic) play well as a set of historical rules for the historical era they reflect. 

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: Conquistador on 01 November 2012, 10:45:44 PM
At the end of the day, this halfling is lovely and I would love to see more. I get very excited about this kind of project... :)

I would like to see more also.

Please, Sir, may we have more?

Gracias,

Glenn

Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: Iron Haiden on 02 November 2012, 12:13:04 AM
I am a fan of the second pic although I think the New Zealand troops would make more appropriate halflings

Well done keep them coming
Title: Re: 2nd WW1 French Halfling Test Sculpt
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 04 November 2012, 06:45:07 PM
Took me a while to think about whY ANZACs would be Hobbits...

Where is the set of Hobbiton again?

Oh yes!

Very nice idea, might be a good way for me to squeeze Halflings into my Panzerfauste games where Orcs are already British.