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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Westfalia Chris on March 18, 2008, 10:23:00 PM
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Well then, somehow, even though it´s holiday, I´m currently terribly quiet on the hobby front - apart from a Vatican Hit Squad, some Gundam kits and a bunch of commissions, I haven´t really done anything of note, and each of those took me ages to do (the commissions still linger, but anyway...).
All the better that I had the inspiration to do some scratchbuilding on Sunday. A buddy of mine came over for a "modelling coffee party", him working on some Heavy Gears (teeny-tiny bitsies! Still can´t get over that switch from 1/87 to 1/144...). I set down to build a Battlemech for a "Battlemech 1:144 scale" project we´ve been working on and off.
Sadly, it worked out a bit too chunky to fit with my existing mechs in the larger scale, so I decided to paint it in another scheme and build some more mechs in that manner to make a second lance.
Anyway, here´s some pictures. Please excuse the poor quality of the "in-modelling" shot and the finished article. I´ll take some better ones tomorrow, once the batteries have recharged.
The raw model, made from plasticard over a balsa core for the hull and SRM launchers - the latter are (re)movable, and I plan to do some machine-guns as alternative armament, once I can decide on a design... :lol:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/LOCUST_WIP.jpg)
Now an intermediate picture during the painting process. I had thought about leaving it that way, in a kind of "tattery Africa Korps" scheme, but settled for something else...
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/LOCUST_WIP_PIP.jpg)
... to be precise, some tiger/zebra striping. Actually, it does a pretty decent job of breaking up the outlines of the model, since I had to look hard over the dense terrain of my modelling table mess to find the model as I returned to do the basing... :lol:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/LOCUST_PAINTEDcopy.jpg)
That´s it for today. Next model will either be an Assassin, a Clint or a Jenner. Currently leaning towards the Assassin, but may still change the focus.
Oh, and for scale, the circular base is a round 2 inch (50mm) steel washer. SO it´s somewhere between 1:120 and 1:144. At least I hope so. Either way, I think the model itself turned out rather nicely.
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That looks really good. 8)
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JENNER! A JENNER! YOU MUST DO A JENNER! (then get Zafarelli to bootleg it in resin and give me a copy)
One of my most favorite mechs ever. Thank you very much!
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Nice work!
I'd opt for a Marauder, although that ain't a scout mech and you seem to be wanting to build a scout lance :D.
But that Locust looks awfully nice ...
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Nice work!
I'd opt for a Marauder, although that ain't a scout mech and you seem to be wanting to build a scout lance :D.
But that Locust looks awfully nice ...
Already got one for the Marik Atrean Hussars lance... :lol: Not scratchbuilt, that one, though.
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For the machineguns, you need to do the original three-barrel "Crusher Joe" style. As far as I'm concerned that's the only True Locust in existence. Then make removable mounts using rare earth magnets.
Also, have you considered doing a Vulcan? You should do a Vulcan. Vulcans are cool.
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For the machineguns, you need to do the original three-barrel "Crusher Joe" style. As far as I'm concerned that's the only True Locust in existence. Then make removable mounts using rare earth magnets.
No need for the magnets - the mounts are plastic tubing which simply slots inside. Funny thing, I´ve always interpreted the three-tube boxes as SRM launchers... :lol: The Ostall rocks, though.
Also, have you considered doing a Vulcan? You should do a Vulcan. Vulcans are cool.
Actually, that one was high up on the list, but got put back due to it not having hands... for that Recon thing, I somehow prefer either non-humanoid mechs or humanoids with hands.
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I always figured as long as somebody in the lance had hands, it didn't matter if there were one or two mechs that didn't. So you should feel free to build the Vulcan anyway. :mrgreen:
In my never-published Thinking Man's Recasting of the Battletech Universe, I came up with a difference between a Pursuit Lance and a Recon Lance. While both were made up of light and fast mechs, a Recon Lance did deep recon ahead of the main body, but the Pursuit Lance did counter-recon work and route protection for slower assets, like Assault and LRM-based mechs. The Vulcan and Jenner were two of the mechs in the original Pursuit Lance box, and to my mind they work well. While fast, they're also much punchier mechs than a Locust, Spider, or Ostscout. Actually a Jenner can be formidable little bugger, and the range of the AC/2 makes the Vulcan a bit of a sniper.
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Dear Mr. Singing Club !
What a beautiful Locust you made.
And the painting is great too.
What happened to his foot ? Tapped into a nail ?
:)
Cheers
Björn
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Dear Mr. Singing Club !
Groooooooan... :lol:
What happened to his foot ? Tapped into a nail ?
As long as it is not a satchel charge tucked into the ankle joint... :lol:
Built a second one today. I set out for an Assassin, but it didn´t work out right - the torso is rather off. Like it nonetheless.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/ASSASSIN_WIP.jpg)
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How do you do it so quickly and so well?
I love it, very much.
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these are very nice! what scale are they?
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these are very nice! what scale are they?
Somewhere between 1:100 and 1:144 - since exact measurements are pretty much nonexistent in the BT universe, it´s hard to come by. The Locust is about 3 inches tall, the Assassin is a bit taller, between 3.5 and 4 inches (around 9cm).
We´ve got a little project running, using the more salvageable MWDA figures, remodelled and repainted, plus various other sources, to do a "Bigger Battletech" thing. Not 28mm (I had built a bunch of mechs for that but only got in one game in 4 years), but 10 or 12 - you can easily adopt the normal rules, substituting 2" of table space per hex. Doesn´t look too much out of place.
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Chris you are far too self critical.
Those are good I am not worthy to write on this forum
I go.....
Ok well I'm not going I like it here............ a lot.
Your models are excellent.
Dodge
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Since DM is up and running again, here´s the plastic kit figures I did last autumn:
(http://www.dminis.com/images/img.1195681043509.jpg)
(http://www.dminis.com/images/img.1195680863058.jpg)
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Nice work Chris!!! Your hands are blessed :mrgreen: Did you ever thought about running your own company? You know I would be the first one to buy an FT-17... :lol:
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You know I would be the first one to buy an FT-17... :lol:
Second, probably...
I'm not at all a fan of robots & mech stuff, but the colors choice and the painting on the 2 lasts make them really stand out.
Congrats.
meow,
Matt
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very nice! i have some heavy gear prepaints that i will repaint when i get back to the uk
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all those are fantastic!!! :love:
just... one thing: how can ou make those grooves on the hulls? cause if i try to make them, i break all everytime! ^^ (i am a noob mecha modeller too ^^)
thank you!
Jack
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just... one thing: how can ou make those grooves on the hulls? cause if i try to make them, i break all everytime! ^^ (i am a noob mecha modeller too ^^)
Hey Jack,
glad you like them. Making grooves is actually rather easy. You´ve got two options, either use a knife and a ruler to score them in, or, as I did with these mechs, cover the wood body with a thin layer of plasticard and then add the actual surface using single pieces, leaving small gaps between them.
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You are very skilled. Adroit. Adept. And some other synonyms!
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THank you, westfalia!
but... how could you put plasticard pieces on round surfaces? do u use heat? or what? :)
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THank you, westfalia!
but... how could you put plasticard pieces on round surfaces? do u use heat? or what? :)
In case of the Locust´s legs and the arm of the "Assassin", those are simply plastic tubes of various diameters just slipped into each other at various lengths.
On the larger round areas, like the hips, those are some steel washers glued together, with a strip of thin plasticard glued around it. I used Superglue to affix it at one end, let it dry, then wrapped it around the washers. Rather simple, actually. YOu could actually heat the plasticard in advance, but the thinner variety bends just well as is.
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no... i meant: for example in the last two photos you posted later, there are some surfaces with grooves on them... and those survace are pretty irregular... i mean, no circles, no tubes... that's directely on the hull! how did you do? :)
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no... i meant: for example in the last two photos you posted later, there are some surfaces with grooves on them... and those survace are pretty irregular... i mean, no circles, no tubes... that's directely on the hull! how did you do? :)
Ahhh, now I get the point! Sorry I didn´t clarify it, the last two are plastic kits manufactured by the Japanese Model Kit firm "Arii" way back in the 1980s. However, they pop up from time to time on model fairs et al, and whenever that happens, I try to get some unless they are ridiculously overpriced.
So the fine panel lines are none of my responsibility. It is, however, not that difficult, I imagine - you´d best build up the shape from modelling putty, sand it down and smooth, then use a hot needle or a modelling knife to score it. - or you sculpt the panel lines in while the putty has not yet set. Just takes some practice and a steady hand (or better, a steel straightedge to guide the tool).
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yes, maybe the straightedge is the best way! ^^
ok, now is all clearer!
i'm sorry for my english, but i'm an italian guy, so i have few chanches to write in english about stulpting & co. ^^
anyway... great job! ^^
Jack
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yes, maybe the straightedge is the best way! ^^
ok, now is all clearer!
i'm sorry for my english, but i'm an italian guy, so i have few chanches to write in english about stulpting & co. ^^
anyway... great job! ^^
Jack
Don´t worry, it was actually pretty clear about what technique was used, it was just a matter of that we did not talk about the same models! :lol:
I have used all the methods I described above at one time or the other - the most important thing is to correctly decide which technique to use at what time (or for which project). Generally, for large flat surfaces, I would recommend using plasticard and either scoring it using a knife, ruler and needle, or use single armour plates. The putty method takes far more time and is really best used for curves and bulges - those are terrible to construct out of plastic. Sanding them takes ages.
Another possibility would be using a soldering iron (called a saldataio in Italian if my dictionary does not fail me), but you need a very fine point and be able to set it to very low heat. Additionally, the potential for damaging the model is considerable.
Yet another option for curved surfaces would be using plastic beads from crafts stores - there are a great number of variant shapes and sizes, and they can be easily cut and engraved as well.
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LOL actually is saldatore, anyway! ;)
well, i still use putty for my models, but i HATE the result using a cutter or a needle.... the problem is that i would like to have a straight line on a curve surface!
I mean, for fantasy models my techniques are pretty good, but if i need to build simetric shapes.... it's a disaster! XD
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very nice!!
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