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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: carlos marighela on 21 October 2012, 12:04:33 AM

Title: Was the "gripping beast falklands" thread... then we digressed as usual...
Post by: carlos marighela on 21 October 2012, 12:04:33 AM
It is, an in my youth I got to walk around and very occasionally fire one of the things on the range. Wish I could have kept some of the used aluminium cartridges, they would have made rather useful pots for mixing paint. Alas, as one used to solemnly intone... "it's an offence both civil and military to remove range produce......etc etc'
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Post by: 6milPhil on 21 October 2012, 01:00:43 AM
Alas, as one used to solemnly intone... "it's an offence both civil and military to remove range produce......etc etc'

Ha! I remember the declaration "I have no unused or spent cartridges in my possession sir."... Happy Days.  ;)
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Post by: janner on 21 October 2012, 06:46:26 AM
'No live rounds or empty cases...'

Aka rockets in my pockets or shamoolies in my gooli...
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Post by: Splod on 21 October 2012, 07:04:31 AM
I have no ammunition or range produce in my possession, suh!
Bit more recent for me however ;)
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Post by: Arlequín on 21 October 2012, 07:39:20 AM
I remember scouring the grass for brass... and having to hand in as many empties as I'd been issued, but then we used to have to pay a deposit on pop bottles too.

My contribution to "Old farts in their own words".  ;)
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Post by: carlos marighela on 21 October 2012, 07:54:18 AM
Of course, smoke grenades were far to useful for such things as weddings to include amongst items proscribed. I believe that a mortar simulator placed in an old Westinghouse washing machine in the yard can be quite entertaining, as is the reaction of a housemate unaware of the impending boom but whose curiosity is piqued by the odd whistling sound coming from the garden.  ;)
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Post by: Patrice on 18 November 2012, 09:52:12 PM
Ha! I remember the declaration "I have no unused or spent cartridges in my possession sir."... Happy Days.  ;)
lol I certainly did say the same thing in French ...a long time ago.

...although probably have a few empty things, and some blank cartridges too, somewhere in the attic.
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Post by: zizi666 on 19 November 2012, 03:36:08 PM
lol I certainly did say the same thing in French ...a long time ago.

...although probably have a few empty things, and some blank cartridges too, somewhere in the attic.


We just had to sign the book for receiving a loader with 30 bullets when on patrol duty. Funny thing is, during my 9 months in my unit (I was a conscript) I never actually received 1 bullet. they tought it safer that way after some idiot fired a shot in the ceiling of the office block one night. Nice detail : first floor were offices, 2nd floor the bedrooms for the conscripts...
On the firing range, there was always at least 1 CO and several NCO's to supervise us conscripts, so little change of lifting something.
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Post by: joroas on 19 November 2012, 03:45:18 PM
Amazingly, used cartridges are easy and cheap to buy at Museums.  A friend of mine, who goes shooting, has passed me some real ones from time to time.  I didn't get any from my TA days, when I had the real thing.

No doubt, in the States, they have difficulty understanding how gun conscious the British are.....
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Post by: zizi666 on 19 November 2012, 07:29:49 PM
No doubt, in the States, they have difficulty understanding how gun conscious the British are.....

Make that Europeans  :-I
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Post by: commissarmoody on 19 November 2012, 08:46:45 PM
Make that Europeans  :-I
Make that western Europeans  :D
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Post by: carlos marighela on 19 November 2012, 09:04:18 PM
Make that 'most of the civilised world'.
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Post by: commissarmoody on 19 November 2012, 09:34:05 PM
Make that 'most of the civilised world'.
touche  lol
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Post by: Brummie on 20 November 2012, 11:34:07 AM
I remember quite clearly the look on peoples faces when we were being shown around an armory; one of the guys picked up one of the GPMGs and was half way through checking it was safe when a bullet mysteriously popped out and rolled away in front of everyone.

Suffice to say we were all glad that there weren't any Sergeants, Officers about etc etc.

We are pretty hardcore in the safety department, but it doesn't stop us making daft mistakes.

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Post by: commissarmoody on 20 November 2012, 11:48:27 AM
its always the unloaded and cleared rifle that gets you.  lol
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Post by: carlos marighela on 20 November 2012, 07:42:00 PM
Unless it's the trainee you are instructing on the 66mm SRAAW who pivots the whole upper part of his body around, thus pointing the business end at their instructor/ safety officer's body, when calling out 'BBDA CLEAR!'  :o

For the wise and experienced, there is no such thing as a UD, at least on exercise. It's always a matter of 'CONTACT FRONT' rapidly followed by a fictitious target indication. Naturally this is harder to pull off on the range, your accomodation lines or an armoury.  :D
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Post by: commissarmoody on 20 November 2012, 08:59:00 PM
Awww the good old days in the infantry.
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Post by: Cultist #3 on 21 November 2012, 01:52:01 AM
Make that 'most of the civilised world'.

That must be why everyone calls us when a war breaks out  :D

We just swept our empty brass over the side, the big shells we used as but kits  ;)
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Post by: carlos marighela on 21 November 2012, 07:10:28 AM
That must be why everyone calls us when a war breaks out  :D


I think you'll find that since 1945, it's usually been a case of you calling us, after you've started one. I'm surprised we still pick up the phone. Then again everyone loves Crank Yankers, so I guess we are used to it.

 :)
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Post by: commissarmoody on 21 November 2012, 09:09:13 AM
We need some one to be bullet sponges while we go for the goal.  ;)
All kidding aside, I will say that I served with both Canadian, British, Australian, German and French forces while I did my 2 stints over in the sand box and enjoyed the experience.
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Post by: Arlequín on 21 November 2012, 10:08:18 AM
To be fair, despite being tardy for the two big shows, the U.S. has been really prompt in recent years.  ;)
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Post by: janner on 22 November 2012, 08:03:57 AM
To be fair, despite being tardy for the two big shows, the U.S. has been really prompt in recent years.  ;)

Ah, the temptation to talk politics was almost too much  :D
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Post by: Silent Invader on 22 November 2012, 08:26:38 AM
This thread reminded me of the safety film where an SLR is being cleaned in a barrack room but it hasn't been cleared. Anyone else remember that?  If I recall correctly, our screening was then followed by a film on VD........
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Post by: Arlequín on 22 November 2012, 09:10:31 AM
Ah, the temptation to talk politics was almost too much  :D

It is difficult... even more so when you're supposed to be the mod...  :-X

 ;)

This thread reminded me of the safety film where an SLR is being cleaned in a barrack room but it hasn't been cleared. Anyone else remember that?  If I recall correctly, our screening was then followed by a film on VD........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoXAX3e_wlM

Would have been better with Alvin Stardust popping into shot though... "Hey! You must be out of your tiny minds!"
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Post by: Silent Invader on 22 November 2012, 10:30:09 AM
Oh yes... Seems a lot longer than I recall but then I was wet cold and dog-tired before being crammed into the cinema which soon became a sauna and so I was probably drifting in and out of sleep...... :D
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Post by: commissarmoody on 22 November 2012, 11:31:21 AM
Ah, the temptation to talk politics was almost too much  :D
As long as its done in good taste then its all good.  :D
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Post by: Arlequín on 22 November 2012, 01:51:27 PM
Yeah... good taste is how we roll.  :D

Anyway... you might have seen this before, but here's 40th Regiment RA showing how not to do an amphibious assault. Jump to 1:20 to miss the boring stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx58OUeKZZU


and erm... someone mentioned Falklands and Gripping Beast?
Title: Was the "gripping beast falklands" thread... then we digressed as usual...
Post by: carlos marighela on 22 November 2012, 04:55:56 PM
This thread reminded me of the safety film where an SLR is being cleaned in a barrack room but it hasn't been cleared. Anyone else remember that?  If I recall correctly, our screening was then followed by a film on VD........

Priceless acting, especially the NCO who espies the dead squaddie and nonchalantly asks 'what happened?'. Makes one realise what a profound influence Roger Moore must have had on Army training films.

Moral of the story? Always keep an eye on those red headed bastards.
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Post by: carlos marighela on 22 November 2012, 05:06:39 PM
I know I've recommended this before but it's worth giving the Argentine film Iluminados por el fuego another plug, if you haven't seen it, you may well enjoy it. You can watch the whole thing here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVxx0eBf5c0&feature=related

Oh and the GB figures are very good.
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Post by: commissarmoody on 22 November 2012, 07:23:19 PM
Thanks for the videos
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Post by: Arlequín on 22 November 2012, 09:54:29 PM
nonchalantly

Good word that...

Apparently the order for the Governor's RM detachment to cease fire, following the Argentine invasion, came a few seconds too late for one corporal, who had just put a 66 into a full personnel carrier. He's alleged to have said "Act nonchalant lads".

:)
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Post by: janner on 22 November 2012, 10:12:11 PM

Moral of the story? Always keep an eye on those red headed bastards.

This.

Teeth clicking, card cheating, fox piss stinking, howl at the mooning gwarrs need to be watched very closely  >:(
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Post by: Arlequín on 22 November 2012, 11:49:23 PM
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Post by: Brummie on 23 November 2012, 10:10:12 AM
Talking of rubbish vids, anyone seen that one called 'Shoot to Kill' which if I recall is another bad act of one British soldier spraying of rounds during a live training exercise which ends up in his mate being shot??

Might be getting vids confused here, but the title was pretty funny nevermind the rest of it.
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Post by: Arlequín on 23 November 2012, 11:22:19 AM
It wasn't this one then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoCWCaSfabU

I must say the RO seems a jolly nice chap though and it looks like someone must have shot the barber a few weeks back too.

This was fun too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciFnTiacaDU&feature=relmfu

You will recognise the enemy, they don't wear plants on their heads...
 
The Corporal is an emotionless android and they must have doped the Rodney too, so they didn't have to film him with his lead on.
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Post by: carlos marighela on 23 November 2012, 06:14:50 PM
Must have a hunt for it, but there's a rather amusing one on section weapons and their effects. Unlike the usual firepower demo stuff this one is actually quite instructive, it shows the frag ptential of grenades in enclosed space, the protective qualiries of an upturned kitchen table and demonstrates breaching with the C. Gustav. Same vintage as the others.
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Post by: Barks on 24 November 2012, 01:35:25 PM
I have no live animals or farm produce in my posession, sah!
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Post by: Conquistador on 24 November 2012, 01:59:47 PM
its always the unloaded and cleared rifle that gets you.  lol

They are never unloaded. 

Even when you just unloaded it yourself. 

One of the most safety conscious NRA guys I know had a "just unloaded" weapon handed to him by his active Navy officer (and safety rabid) son put a round into the air after hunting.  Not quite sure who was more startled or embarrassed but it was a reminder that my first statement is always true.  Humans make mistakes.

Gracias,

Glenn

Who specially loves rifles but never bought a gun just because of my dismal track record with non-firearm safety in general (and I am too cheap to buy the four weapons (one each - revolver, automatic pistol, shotgun, and rifle)  I really want.)  You can buy a bunch of miniatures for that much money!
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Post by: Patrice on 24 November 2012, 05:20:16 PM
It reminds me of this old French film "La mariée était en noir" (="The Bride wore black"), 1968.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG5QosHjTmw

Crime scene begins at 1:50. A group of drunken friends are playing with empty guns, one of them loads one of the guns, another one takes the gun believing it's not loaded, and kills a man at his wedding in front of the church.

The men escape, but the bride spends the whole film looking for them and she kills them one by one.

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Post by: carlos marighela on 24 November 2012, 09:32:50 PM
With Truffaut as a director, I'm not surprised that French Army training films are superior to their Anglo-Saxon counterparts. I'm kinda of hoping there's a French version of hygiene in the field starring Alain Delon. M. Hulot demonstrating counter-mine drill would also be a film well worth seeing.  :)