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Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Lindegaard2007 on March 21, 2008, 05:11:50 PM

Hi There!!

Is there any good tutorials on making buildings for pirate wargaming??

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on March 21, 2008, 08:46:03 PM

There were some templates by Gary Chalk in an old issue of Wargames Illustrated, #146 (November 1999). It's still available from WI's website me thinks.

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: brigadegames on March 23, 2008, 11:59:30 AM

http://www.brigadegames.com/go.mvc?ID=BGTA

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on March 23, 2008, 12:26:44 PM

Any Spanish/Italian style buildings, Mexican Adobes, or more Northern European half-timbered styles would do. Just get a load of different architectural styles and mix n match them.

A Southern USA style 18thC plantation house would be ideal as an Island Governor's mansion etc. Even wooden ACW styles would fit with no problems.

Any Medieval fortifications would suit for town defences.

Basically, unless you're looking for a hard-core historical look, just go with what you like. Its Pirates, after all, so the more "Hollwood" the better, at least as far as I'm concerned  :)

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Lindegaard2007 on March 24, 2008, 03:25:48 PM

Hi There!!

Thanks for the replies!!

I started on two buildings last night, and i am going for mexican/adobe style!!!

If i can get my camera working i´ll post some pics!!

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Overlord on March 24, 2008, 03:53:05 PM

Here are my pirate buildings. A mixture of the Gary Chalk Spanish style ones mixed in with a few Adobe's.  

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/Campaign2007/Campaign07057A.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/Campaign2007/Campaign07058A.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/Campaign2007/Campaign07059A.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/Campaign2007/Campaign07011A.jpg)

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: twrchtrwyth on March 24, 2008, 04:07:45 PM

Lovely. 8)

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Argonor on March 24, 2008, 08:40:39 PM

Nice!

I especially like that you can see the floor planking through one of the windows!!!

Are the palm trees scratch-build or ready-made??

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: flytime on March 24, 2008, 08:45:31 PM

Looks great very inspiring! :)

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Overlord on March 24, 2008, 09:09:59 PM

Quote from: "Argonor"

Nice!

I especially like that you can see the floor planking through one of the windows!!!

All the Spanish style buildings have lift off roofs and a removeable upper floor (where appropriate)

Quote from: "Argonor"

Are the palm trees scratch-build or ready-made??

They are scratch-built.  A multiple wire core with garden string wound around it to give the banded trunk.  The fronds are fur fabric, dipped in watered down PVA (Warning: this can be VERY messy!)and combed to get a realistic frond effect.

I have since made some more palm trees using plastic ferns as the fronds.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/Jungle/Palms006a.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/Jungle/Jungle009a.jpg)

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Ray Earle on March 24, 2008, 09:43:36 PM

Great stuff Overlord.  :love:

Have to start making loads of adobe buildings myself soon...

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: dyscordya on March 25, 2008, 07:29:37 PM

:o  It's great

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Argonor on March 25, 2008, 07:54:20 PM

Fantastic stuff!!

Plastic ferns are a good idea for fronds.

Speaking of ferns, BUSCH makes scale plastic ferns that may come in handy for jungles/prehistoric settings....

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on March 25, 2008, 09:26:34 PM

Quote from: "Argonor"

Fantastic stuff!!

Plastic ferns are a good idea for fronds.

Speaking of ferns, BUSCH makes scale plastic ferns that may come in handy for jungles/prehistoric settings....

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/bus/bus1203.htm


Hmmm, very nice but rather expensive.  :(

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Overlord on March 25, 2008, 10:13:01 PM

Quote from: "Gluteus Maximus"

Quote from: "Argonor"

Fantastic stuff!!

Plastic ferns are a good idea for fronds.

Speaking of ferns, BUSCH makes scale plastic ferns that may come in handy for jungles/prehistoric settings....

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/bus/bus1203.htm

Hmmm, very nice but rather expensive.  :(

I get mine from Hobbycraft in the UK: http://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/index.asp

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/Jungle/Palms001a.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/Jungle/Palms002a.jpg)

4 fronds on each artificial fern costing £1.69.  Just over 40p a tree.  :mrgreen:      Just add garden twine and a suitable base.

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Rhoderic on March 26, 2008, 07:55:56 AM

Don't forget the possibility of making shanty towns as well. Something like a secret pirate port full of rickety terraces and catwalks. No templates needed, just start sticking strips of balsa together until you have a sufficiently wonky-looking town.

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Malamute on March 26, 2008, 08:19:37 AM

Overlord - splendid looking table. :love:

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: tsar1701 on March 26, 2008, 08:34:48 AM

This is exactly the table I hope to create one day ...

So, back to the workbench  :?

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on March 26, 2008, 08:43:59 AM

Quote from: "Overlord"

Quote from: "Gluteus Maximus"

Hmmm, very nice but rather expensive.  :(

I get mine from Hobbycraft in the UK: http://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/index.asp

4 fronds on each artificial fern costing £1.69.  Just over 40p a tree.  :mrgreen:      Just add garden twine and a suitable base.

Aha!

That's much better  :)

Thanks, Overlord.

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: PeteMurray on March 26, 2008, 12:31:37 PM

Quote from: "Rhoderic"

Don't forget the possibility of making shanty towns as well. Something like a secret pirate port full of rickety terraces and catwalks. No templates needed, just start sticking strips of balsa together until you have a sufficiently wonky-looking town.

I used craft sticks. I spent one night in front of the TV just splitting them with a box cutter.

I'd also recommend checking out some of the various paper building sets. I've printed them and then glued them to foamcore, and the only change I've made has been to recess the windows and doors to make them look nicer. My buddy has printed them to big label sheets and skipped the gluing step and it works just as well (probably better in the long run). If you base the foamcore buildings, they'll hold up just fine over time.

It is a really nice looking table, there.

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Argonor on March 27, 2008, 05:53:42 PM

Quote from: "Overlord"

Quote from: "Gluteus Maximus"

Quote from: "Argonor"

Fantastic stuff!!

Plastic ferns are a good idea for fronds.

Speaking of ferns, BUSCH makes scale plastic ferns that may come in handy for jungles/prehistoric settings....

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/bus/bus1203.htm

Hmmm, very nice but rather expensive.  :(

I get mine from Hobbycraft in the UK: http://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/index.asp

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/Jungle/Palms001a.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/Jungle/Palms002a.jpg)

4 fronds on each artificial fern costing £1.69.  Just over 40p a tree.  :mrgreen:      Just add garden twine and a suitable base.

Rather nice - would be great to have one of those stores around.

I got a whole bunch of cake deco palm trees from Pfeil & Holding (I think they're called) in the US. VERY inexpensive: 0.50 Dkr. per tree (£1 is about Dkr.10), including postage. And all I have to do is glue them onto a base with a glue gun and drybrush the trunk  :wink:

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Arteis on March 28, 2008, 08:01:56 AM

This article I wrote several years ago was aimed at Peninsular War gaming ... but would be pretty applicable to pirates as well:

http://www.fusiliers.net/wargaming6.htm

Here's one of the pictures from that article:

(http://www.fusiliers.net/wargaming/spanish_3.jpg)

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: SgtPerry on March 28, 2008, 08:04:15 AM

:o

Impressive, both of them!

Olivier

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on March 28, 2008, 10:07:03 AM

Roly,

Beautiful village!

It would indeed be perfect for pirates  8)  :)

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Arteis on March 28, 2008, 10:26:31 AM

Here's another picture of the village, with a few new buildings I've added since (they've got temporary cardboard roofs in this pic, which were later replaced with pantile-textured plasticard like the earlier buildings).

(http://www.fusiliers.net/gallery/roly/v/village_1.jpg)

More pics of the village are here:

http://www.fusiliers.net/wargaming37.htm[/img]

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: twrchtrwyth on March 28, 2008, 10:27:24 AM

8)

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Malamute on March 28, 2008, 10:40:18 AM

Great stuff. :)

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Lindegaard2007 on March 28, 2008, 02:39:49 PM

Hi Again!!

What about the roof tiles!! Do you guys make them yourself or buy them somewhere??

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: PeteMurray on March 28, 2008, 02:51:39 PM

Beautiful!  :love:

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Operator5 on March 28, 2008, 02:53:32 PM

I love it.  :o

Great little town there and perfect for a raid by scurvy dogs!

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: pierrebi on April 02, 2008, 09:26:32 AM

have a look here: http://www.fusiliers.net/wargaming30.htm

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: twrchtrwyth on April 02, 2008, 09:06:57 PM

Quote from: "pierrebi"

have a look here: http://www.fusiliers.net/wargaming30.htm

Cheers for the link. I thought at first Italeri had made new 1/72 models, :lol: . Fixing the doors really works.

Title: Buildings for Pirate Wargaming
Post by: Darren on April 02, 2008, 09:37:28 PM

Hobbycraft, here I come...