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Title: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on November 30, 2012, 01:50:04 AM
Building a new 4' x 8' board, basically a bombed out city board for zombie, modern, sci-fi, or post apocalyptic games.

Firstly I hate the average "city" terrain, especially the stupid GW terrain; a manufacturum (factory) the size of a landraider. The space humans supposedly live in giant hives the size of mountains, but the terrain GW sells is scale wise smaller than the average Circle K.

Making big terrain, still small by normal city scale, but I don't want to buy ladders to put on a game. When done, I hope to install a "Fallout" style vault underneath, or at least some accessible sewers.

First of multiple building wrecks is a 40" wide x 32" tall x 12" deep bombed out office building. It's taller than Forgeworld's tallest Titan models.

Read more: http://boardofthelivinglead.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=zblogs&action=display&thread=695#ixzz2DfNkKBX3
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on November 30, 2012, 01:51:14 AM
Front shot, needs remnants of windows. I've been hording clear plastic to install after painting.

Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on November 30, 2012, 01:52:15 AM
Inside shot

Even though most 25-28mm scale models are between 1-2" tall, I've made the levels or floors 4" tall so that 1829mm scale human hands may reach inside to move models around.

I've seen a guy (username tommygun or something like that) on Dakka that gives out free files to print scale office supplies that I mix in with rubble and dead bodies.


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Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on November 30, 2012, 01:53:45 AM
larger shot of the inside

will need to add hanging wire and crumbling rubble. I've been wandering parking lots like a zombie looking for little bits of metal to use as revarb and assorted building junk.

I hope to post some pics of a stairwell and maybe some rooftop progress this coming weekend.

love,
Baconfat
http://baconfatblog.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Chainmailninja on November 30, 2012, 02:59:44 AM
Holy moly! That is not small.  :o

Lookin' great! That's going to be a lot of fun to play on! Depending on the rules, you'll have some troops unable to even fire back at snipers on the roof, good stuff!  :D

For the metal rebar, I've found that paperclips work well. They're easy to work with/shape, and slide right into foamcore. Clipping them into reasonably short lengths makes them less likely to bend during use. The only downside is that they aren't textured like the real thing. :( Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: HerbyF on November 30, 2012, 03:36:29 AM
Baling wire comes in many different gages. Find one about the right size. It is fairly soft easy to cut and easy to bend. Might work a little better than paper clips. Is often a throw away at warehouses & other places that recieved packages that were tied with baling wire. I'm talking the small stuff used for packaging and not hay baling wire. I have quit a bit of the small stuff myself collected over the years from various jobs.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Marine0846 on November 30, 2012, 03:55:59 AM
Wow, thats some big building.
Can't wait to see it done.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: v_lazy_dragon on November 30, 2012, 06:48:20 AM
 :o Thats a bit big (but in a good way!) Really looking forward to seeing how this develops!
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Rob_bresnen on November 30, 2012, 12:27:58 PM
eick! That's big!
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Daeothar on December 04, 2012, 01:46:53 PM
Well, I for one share your philosophy of 'Bigger is Better'. Especially when it comes to buildings for gaming purposes. I am planning to do a table representing my own house/street, in an appropriate scale; 1/50.

That's an easy to work with conversion scale, and when gaming with miniatures on bases, the slightly larger scale will not look out of place. And then there's the inevitable scale creep in miniatures, and the 30/32mm minis we see more and more, will also be more and more in scale with the terrain. Plan for the future, I say! :D

It does mean that there will be less buildings on the table, but the proportions are much more realistic, so it adds to the feel and look of the game. IMHO that is of course...

Besides; if you like the idea of gaming in a modern/near future urban setting, you simply won't get away with two storey buildings being the highest structure, unless you also like suburbia. ;)

I really like your project, and I'm curious to see where it goes from here. Have you considered also making the back half of the building, to exactly fit against it? You'd have a massive building for the center of the table, or two half as massive builsings for the sides of the table. It's what I hope to do when I finally get to build my project...

Also; what finish are you going for? Concrete? Or a more polished look, like glass and plastic?

Oh, and don't be alarmed by any cry of 'Insanity!', as you clearly are not half as crazy as these two nutters: lol
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: MajorTalon on December 04, 2012, 07:20:26 PM
Well, I for one share your philosophy of 'Bigger is Better'. Especially when it comes to buildings for gaming purposes. I am planning to do a table representing my own house/street, in an appropriate scale; 1/50.

That's an easy to work with conversion scale, and when gaming with miniatures on bases, the slightly larger scale will not look out of place. And then there's the inevitable scale creep in miniatures, and the 30/32mm minis we see more and more, will also be more and more in scale with the terrain. Plan for the future, I say! :D

It does mean that there will be less buildings on the table, but the proportions are much more realistic, so it adds to the feel and look of the game. IMHO that is of course...

Besides; if you like the idea of gaming in a modern/near future urban setting, you simply won't get away with two storey buildings being the highest structure, unless you also like suburbia. ;)

I really like your project, and I'm curious to see where it goes from here. Have you considered also making the back half of the building, to exactly fit against it? You'd have a massive building for the center of the table, or two half as massive builsings for the sides of the table. It's what I hope to do when I finally get to build my project...

Also; what finish are you going for? Concrete? Or a more polished look, like glass and plastic?

Oh, and don't be alarmed by any cry of 'Insanity!', as you clearly are not half as crazy as these two nutters: lol
Those were made for a music video though. ;D
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 07, 2012, 01:39:03 AM
Progress on front entrance which still need alot of work.

Stairs are made out of foam board with paper pulled off and painted with cheap lite mocha Apple Barrel craft paint.

Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 07, 2012, 02:07:47 AM
Here's a top down stairwell view before I added stairs.  Looks like an cyclopeadian cavern of gateways.




Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 07, 2012, 02:18:19 AM
Here's a pic with stairs newly added to the well.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 07, 2012, 02:19:54 AM
an initial side view of the stair well
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 07, 2012, 02:27:29 AM
Back view, it's amazing how long it takes to to paint so much foam, even a simple gray.

I apologize for the lack of details, but I promise to add more later.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 07, 2012, 02:36:52 AM
A building front view, the paint is a mix of fairly fine sand, Apple Barrel Khaki craft paint, and white glue.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 07, 2012, 03:00:11 AM
Chainmail and HerbyF,

Thanks for the inputs, for rebar I've found a nice florist wire at the chain called "Hobby Lobby".  Will post a report if it works.  If not I will try your ideas.

Daeothar,

You're so right about the silly two story building BS.

 As to your questions:
       This building will be a short table edge with similiar rubble        on the other side.  The center is planned to be a courtyard/park.  The long sides will be far more demolished buildings to enable player access.

As to the pic you posted, I am also nutters, but the old lady won't allow me devote the entire abode to minis.

Major Talo,

What video do you so speak of?
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Eric the Shed on December 07, 2012, 09:04:29 AM
Excellent work...

Suggestion - paint the foam the clour you want before you start cutting...this will be much quicker and all you have to do it paint the edges...

Eric
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: zizi666 on December 07, 2012, 09:33:11 AM
Excellent work...

Suggestion - paint the foam the clour you want before you start cutting...this will be much quicker and all you have to do it paint the edges...

Eric

Not sure about that. He using as sand/glue/paint mix, not so ideal to cut once hardened IMO.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 09, 2012, 11:48:52 PM
Eric,

You were right about the interior painting and Zizi was right about the sand paint.  I think I was drunk when did it all out of order.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 10, 2012, 12:01:02 AM
I've started a roof access building.  Still needs painting and cleaning up.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 10, 2012, 12:05:39 AM
The little roof comes off.  Please ignore the liberal application of hot glue, which I hope isn't to hard to tear up.

The actual roof coating is textured scrapbooking paper painted gray.  I need to find a way to wash it to make it look more roofy.

There's actually no way for models to get to the left side of the room, because of the giant hole in the floor.  I'll have to fix that.  
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 10, 2012, 12:08:39 AM
I've almost finished painting the front and sides.    I'm too far away but most of the zeds in the windows are friendly and waving.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 10, 2012, 12:10:10 AM
closer shot of the front entrance, the back door is alot bigger.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on December 10, 2012, 12:15:36 AM
Here's a shot of part of floor one.  Until I took the picture, I had no idea how poorly I painted the walls.  I will never assemble unpainted terrain again.  Proper planning prevents piss poor painting.  I'll never be able to paint the stairs.

The painting is a piece of craft store jewelery with a little bit of paper glued on.  It's "Two children doing things next to a goat."
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: zizi666 on December 10, 2012, 06:24:30 AM
The little roof comes off.  Please ignore the liberal application of hot glue, which I hope isn't to hard to tear up.

The actual roof coating is textured scrapbooking paper painted gray.  I need to find a way to wash it to make it look more roofy.

There's actually no way for models to get to the left side of the room, because of the giant hole in the floor.  I'll have to fix that.  

You could try cutting it off with a hobby knife. Perhaps even heated over a candle to melt through the glue.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: SerialMoM on December 10, 2012, 08:02:16 AM
I really like what you are doing. the buildng looks very promising.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: therepoman on December 10, 2012, 08:13:28 PM
Well, I for one share your philosophy of 'Bigger is Better'. Especially when it comes to buildings for gaming purposes. I am planning to do a table representing my own house/street, in an appropriate scale; 1/50.

That's an easy to work with conversion scale, and when gaming with miniatures on bases, the slightly larger scale will not look out of place. And then there's the inevitable scale creep in miniatures, and the 30/32mm minis we see more and more, will also be more and more in scale with the terrain. Plan for the future, I say! :D

It does mean that there will be less buildings on the table, but the proportions are much more realistic, so it adds to the feel and look of the game. IMHO that is of course...

Besides; if you like the idea of gaming in a modern/near future urban setting, you simply won't get away with two storey buildings being the highest structure, unless you also like suburbia. ;)

I really like your project, and I'm curious to see where it goes from here. Have you considered also making the back half of the building, to exactly fit against it? You'd have a massive building for the center of the table, or two half as massive builsings for the sides of the table. It's what I hope to do when I finally get to build my project...

Also; what finish are you going for? Concrete? Or a more polished look, like glass and plastic?

Oh, and don't be alarmed by any cry of 'Insanity!', as you clearly are not half as crazy as these two nutters: lol

Wow, that is some insane terrain!
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on October 27, 2014, 01:02:23 AM
I've made some progress on the table; it's almost good enough for gaming.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on October 27, 2014, 01:14:59 AM
Here's a look down the main street towards the large building.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on October 27, 2014, 01:27:45 AM
I had one building without any windows and added a bit of Fall Out bling.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: NickNascati on October 27, 2014, 01:36:07 AM
My word, that is some impressive modelling. :)
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on October 27, 2014, 01:38:41 AM
Here's 75% of the table in 2' x 2' sections.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Baconfat on October 27, 2014, 01:47:17 AM
Here's a random shot; the gap between the sections is far bigger than I imagined and I don't know how to hide it.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Messyart on October 27, 2014, 02:15:21 AM
The overall look is so beautiful that I don't think a few little cracks in the pavement stand out as an eyesore. That's some beautiful work!
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Furt on October 27, 2014, 02:38:17 AM
Wonderful build and very inspiring.

Personally I would put some rubble in the streets and maybe this could help hide those cracks that are worrying you.
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Constable Bertrand on October 27, 2014, 07:16:41 AM
An ambitious project, im glad your still at it. :D The rubble looks good, it has a nice texture.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Espritfigs on November 01, 2014, 07:09:33 PM
Nice!
YOU ARE CRAZY ;D
Title: Re: Bombed Out City Beginning
Post by: Too Bo Coo on November 01, 2014, 07:29:29 PM
What a wonderful project!  I rally like how it all came together! :D

Are you planning on adding some color to the buildings? It is literally the only thing I can think to add.  Well, that and if you add some flock to the tile cracks, it may help to hide them by making them look like cracks int he roadway that have grass tufts.

Keep it coming!