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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: Kingscarbine on 19 January 2013, 03:57:08 PM
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Are these OK for the 1859 Italian campaign? http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=100&cat=243&page=1
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Can't claim to have any sort of deep knowledge on this subject, but it seems to me that the Austrians changed their uniforms in between those two wars. Images from Solferino and Magenta have the Austrians in quite short white frock coat-type jackets, while in the German war they seem to have been clad in grey greatcoats.
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Can't claim to have any sort of deep knowledge on this subject, but it seems to me that the Austrians changed their uniforms in between those two wars. Images from Solferino and Magenta have the Austrians in quite short white frock coat-type jackets, while in the German war they seem to have been clad in grey greatcoats.
Yes, I think this is right too. I think the only army whose uniform remained consistent over this period was that of Prussia - obviously not of much help for you, though!
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Nuno, like Plynkes I'm no expert but I think you will find Mirliton are about the only people who do something appropriate for Solferino in 25/28mm. A pity, as the North Star figures are beautiful ( Alan Marsh did the sculpts).
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Thanks guys. I'm trying to find holes in the market that I can explore. That's all I can disclose at the moment.
8)
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Thanks guys. I'm trying to find holes in the market that I can explore. That's all I can disclose at the moment.
8)
Well I wouldn't look into it much if I were you, considering you're the only person who has ever raised the topic here! Might not be much of a market...
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"If you build it, he will come." Shoeless Joe Jackson :D
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That is certainly true. Who knew people wanted to play the Carlist Wars, for Pete's sake? Or Darkest Africa, for that matter.
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Actually 1859 would be a good game. Napoleonic tactics and ACW weapons. Both France and Austria had early rifle muskets. And the armies look gorgeous.
The only issue is that both armies had the full range of 19th century types - light and line infantry, every sub variety of cavalry imaginable, the French now also have colonial troops, etc. So a lot of work presenting the armies. And you might still run into guys who say "I already have Napoleonics and ACW armies. Why would I want to collect another period just to mix up the rules a little?"
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That is certainly true. Who knew people wanted to play the Carlist Wars, for Pete's sake? Or Darkest Africa, for that matter.
Yeeees, but that wonderful range of 1866 Austrians hasn't made the conflict any more popular, or has it?
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As colourful as Napoleonic, as deadly as American Civil War!!! That could be interesting. Then again, I guess that starting any wargame figures range is a gamble… Best luck to you if you decide to move forward with this idea.
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Yeeees, but that wonderful range of 1866 Austrians hasn't made the conflict any more popular, or has it?
The problem with 1866 is that the Prussians have breech-loading rifles and the Austrians do not. Do the math. Or as the song goes...
"The needle-gun, the needle-gun /
It bowls them over five to one. "
In 1859, the technology is pretty well balanced. And there's a nice Osprey.
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/store/Solferino-1859_9781846033858
(http://www.ospreypublishing.com/images/books/covers/9781846033858.JPG)
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;D there are people interresting by a range!!!!
The range need "just" to be as complete as possible (ie infantry (light and line, artillery, some cavalry) if not totaly complete ! For exemple, i'm stil waiting for great war miniatures, french 1914 artillery !!! :( there are two range of brittons, two of germans and no 75 "de campagne" >:(
french and piedmontese 1859 miniatures will suit for Algéria 1845-1870, Rome 1849, Criméa, mexico, china 1860, Italian risorgimiento (excepte for the french in 1866) etc ......austrian for 1848 (hungary) italian risorgimiento, Criméa (what if against the russians!!)
best regards
paco
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The range need "just" to be as complete as possible (ie infantry (light and line, artillery, some cavalry) if not totaly complete ! For exemple, i'm stil waiting for great war miniatures, french 1914 artillery !!! there are two range of brittons, two of germans and no 75 "de campagne"
You'd think there'd be more French artillery, considering its importance. However, the 75 is available from Brigade Games:
http://www.brigadegames.com/French-75mm-Artillery-and-French-Crew-in-Kepi-4_p_716.html
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Are these OK for the 1859 Italian campaign? http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=100&cat=243&page=1
Not at all. Austrian infantry didn't wear their greatcoat during the 1859 campaign.
You can find suitable figures for this campaign at BATTLE HONOURS - 19TH CENTURY MINIATURES
http://www.oldglory15s.com/25mm-1859-66-70-Franco-Austrian-And-Franco-Prussian-War_c254.htm
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You'd think there'd be more French artillery, considering its importance. However, the 75 is available from Brigade Games:
http://www.brigadegames.com/French-75mm-Artillery-and-French-Crew-in-Kepi-4_p_716.html
i though the french WWI range was not available anymore ?
And same problem with woodbine design (two guns for turks one for brittons ....nothing for the french ....as usual!!)
empress has a very nice 75 but without crew!
regards
paco
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There's hardly a shortage of French 75mm guns in 28mm. Old Glory do one (with crew). Black Tree Design do one for their Polish range, with crew in French uniform. Actually the BTD version is probably the nicest one out there. Tiger make one, Foundry make one, Brigade games make one. Just exactly how many versions does the market require?
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There should also one be available from Scarab miniatures, although I seem just to be able to find the crew and the respective Ammunition caisson but not the gun itself. ???
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The BTD 75mm looks great: http://www.blacktreedesign.com/europe/product.php?productid=25178&cat=2538&page=1
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There's hardly a shortage of French 75mm guns in 28mm. Old Glory do one (with crew). Black Tree Design do one for their Polish range, with crew in French uniform. Actually the BTD version is probably the nicest one out there. Tiger make one, Foundry make one, Brigade games make one. Just exactly how many versions does the market require?
just one!!
but ,with crew, for 1914 ( ie without helmet, long jacket, cartridges box, putties etc .....) suitable with great war miniatures range! :D
regards
paco
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Two words: head swaps
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/ww1_great_war/french/french_in_jelmets_artillery_crew_gwf008/?sector_id=2
http://www.grippingbeast.com/shop.php?CatID=408
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I thought about it but there is two problems, putties (in 14 artillerist wore small leather gaiters) and jackets (they wore a short "shell jacket"named "ras de cul") the "best" minis would have been foundry 1870 (without cartridge belts and cartidge boxes ) ....in fact the best thing would have been to "finish" (for the minimum of minis playables!!) the great war range just with a gun and crew!! 8))
(ohwe forgot a manufacturer......Renegade did the same .. no artillery for 1914 !)
I totaly agree with you that for the end of the war there is enough french artillery !!! but not for 1914.
best regards
paco
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Not quite as simple a job as that. Those puttees would have to go, too.
Edit: Beat me to it! :)
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I'm thinking about converting WWI French infantry for the 3rd Carlist War... Wait, shouldn't we be discussing 1850's kaiserlich und königliche Armee? :D
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Sorry Kingcarbine for disturbing your post !!! :-X
regards
paco
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Pás de problème, mon ami. 8)
The only Italian Independence Wars 28mm ranges I know are the BH and Mirliton. The figures seem to be compatible, but I dislike the figures.
http://www.oldglory15s.com/25mm-1859-66-70-Franco-Austrian-And-Franco-Prussian-War_c254.htm
http://www.mirliton.it/index.php?cName=historical-2528mm-italian-indip-wars