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Title: Colour Blindness
Post by: Blackwolf on 24 January 2013, 08:38:22 PM
Yes,I'm colourblind and it shows  ;) My painting is often described as either 'gritty' or de-saturated; I once agonised over this,these days as I get better at painting (from average to more average) I don't worry so much,sure I would like to paint brighter colours,but in the end it has become my style.
  It is very useful to have a wife who suggests contrasting colours et cetera,oh I she loathes those conversations lol
    I would be interested to know how others deal with this affliction/problem?

Cheers

Guy
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: matakishi on 24 January 2013, 11:06:59 PM
I refer to the labels on the paint pots. I don't mix my own colours because I'll never be able to match them again later. I make lists of what colours I used in case I need to come back to add to a range.
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Froggy the Great on 24 January 2013, 11:09:42 PM
Yeah, I have trouble with reds and the derivatives.  I use a color wheel for the color relationships, and a triad paint system for the highlight and shading colors.
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: LeadAsbestos on 25 January 2013, 01:23:02 AM
I refer to the labels on the paint pots. I don't mix my own colours because I'll never be able to match them again later. I make lists of what colours I used in case I need to come back to add to a range.

This.
 I also ask LadyAsbestos what Kevin Dallimore does to make his colors pop, and she says "He uses bright colors." Goddamn wise-ass. ;)
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Blackwolf on 25 January 2013, 01:24:18 AM
I refer to the labels on the paint pots. I don't mix my own colours because I'll never be able to match them again later. I make lists of what colours I used in case I need to come back to add to a range.

I do mix,though my palette is very limited,and yeah labels help as long as they give an specific colour.

Yeah, I have trouble with reds and the derivatives.  I use a color wheel for the color relationships, and a triad paint system for the highlight and shading colors.

Yeah,triads work well,colour wheels not so much,normally I'll ask my wife "if I paint this colour,what other colour should I use?" That sort thing.
   It always strikes me that what we see is different to what normal lol people see ;)

This.
 I also ask LadyAsbestos what Kevin Dallimore does to make his colors pop, and she says "He uses bright colors." Goddamn wise-ass. ;)

Wives lol

Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: zizi666 on 25 January 2013, 02:42:47 AM
I refer to the labels on the paint pots. I don't mix my own colours because I'll never be able to match them again later. I make lists of what colours I used in case I need to come back to add to a range.

That's all too true. I do mix colours, and keep the pallet with dried paint at hand when needed in the near future. Ofcourse, after a while these get verticaly archived (dustbin) and then if I need a matching colour it's all trial and error.  ::)
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: matakishi on 25 January 2013, 07:22:31 AM
I choose what looks good to me anyway so my stuff wouldn't change.
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on 25 January 2013, 07:41:27 AM
I've never actually noticed a problem - I suppose there are degrees fol colour blindness and I am one of the less afflicted.

What I do notice is that my eyesight is generally poorer now and sitting hunched up for any period is uncomfortable.

I paint a lot less than I used to, but when I do I use an angle poise lamp with a magnifier and daylight bulb which not only allows me to see more detail but also means I can sit properly and don't get sore.

I'm not a great painter, not a big shader and dont use colour wheels or three paint systems. I go with what feels right, use Vallejo and GW because I can buy them locally and, generally, usually, Im happy with the result. In the end, thats what matters. I'm not going to win a golden demon, or a Laf painting competition, but it looks right on the table.


Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Blackwolf on 25 January 2013, 07:58:49 AM
I choose what looks good to me anyway so my stuff wouldn't change.

Me too,though I have to always ask if the colour really is blue.


Emir,I did a colour blindness test years ago,you know the one with numbers? Failed every one,it really is an problem,I don't specifically do complicated things for complexity sake,I do so because I can't do it any other way or just paint in black or white... lol
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 25 January 2013, 08:26:01 AM
I'm slightly colour blind in the red/green spectrum. Also did the numbers test and git about three quarters wrong.

It doesn't effect my commission/Oshiro work (well, I've never had a complaint yet  :D) but it does effect my normal work to the point I sometimes have to get someone else to mix my colours and speckles and even to spray depending on the tone  :?

Figure wise, I don't care  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Blackwolf on 25 January 2013, 08:37:14 AM
Well Jim your figures always look good to me :)

I once painted an 1/35 scale figure,duck egg blue,the flesh that is :o It looks like flesh colour to me ;D
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 25 January 2013, 08:54:34 AM
I wouldn't have thought you were colour-blind based on what I have seen.

Go with it, everyone has a style. Of course everyone would like to paint wargames figures like Kev Dallimore, but truth is, that ain't gonna happen!
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 25 January 2013, 01:39:45 PM
Well Jim your figures always look good to me :)

I once painted an 1/35 scale figure,duck egg blue,the flesh that is :o It looks like flesh colour to me ;D

Cheers mate  :)

That's interesting about the blue though, I'm assuming there was no label or anything but how did you highlight it?

cheers

James
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Clearco on 25 January 2013, 02:04:04 PM
I´m also colour blind and I know it since I was a child, but I haven´t so much trouble painting, chiefly thanks the labels on the pots  lol: I generally know what colours I want to use and it seems I manage to use colours that look well together, but without the labels on the pots I wouldn´t be able to tell a lot of my colours appart...I use also a limited palette to keep things simple  ;) I dont´mix my own colours either...

The mainly problem is that I usually make very soft highlights because I see them a lot stronger that non color blind people. I remember painting a wood elf as I was 16 or so, spending a lot of time doing highlights. Then I show it very proudly to my friends...and they said: "it´s ok, but I like it more when the minis have highlights"  lol

Since I´m activ in forums on the internet and get feed-back for what I paint from people that doesn´t know me, I have learned that if I make stronger highlights people like it more...and since they don´t look so wrong for me that way either , I try to do it like that  ;)
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Donpimpom on 25 January 2013, 02:14:19 PM
did you know the guy drawing those characters is colorblind too?
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8113/modarticle5927796950a90.jpg)
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: black hat miniatures on 25 January 2013, 03:29:01 PM
I'm red-green colour blind and I own a paint company....  lol

Mike
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Blackwolf on 25 January 2013, 07:20:24 PM


That's interesting about the blue though, I'm assuming there was no label or anything but how did you highlight it?

cheers

James

It was about 1977,remember the Airfix tinlets,they had the lids painted to match the paint colour; he was the German officer that came with the Tamiya Kubelwagen kit,painted his Iron Cross,the whole bit.No highlights in them daysq lol Nowdays I buy 1/35 scale kits to kitbash into 1/48-1/56 thereabouts ;)

Clearco that's interesting,I guess I paint in an similar way,my highlights are a bit subtle.I have heard it said that people who are colour blind rely on light/dark and form; perhaps that's why my photos are a bit dingy ;)

Mike that sounds like the old Ronson ad. lol
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Hellbeard on 26 January 2013, 01:06:57 AM
Also color blind here. Red Green with red weakness. I've got a BFA in fine art and I'm a professional illustrator. Sometimes I might have a hard time telling apart some colors in particular contexts but I paint and mix my own colors and if I do something that looks different to regular folks I just don't care about it so much and everything is fine. Otherwise I read the labels and mind my spectrum and that's it. There are only 5 colors after all so it's not that hard. I've never had any issues with it whatsoever.
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Mason on 26 January 2013, 02:51:08 AM
Well, as far as I know, I am not.

I just wanted to say that all of you guys that are, it sure does not show.
There are some of the most talented people on this forum amongst you, so it is obviously not a hinderence if you have the talent.

Crack on, chaps, colour blind or not, you are all producing some wonderful and inspirational stuff!

Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 26 January 2013, 08:49:07 AM
It was about 1977,remember the Airfix tinlets,they had the lids painted to match the paint colour; he was the German officer that came with the Tamiya Kubelwagen kit,painted his Iron Cross,the whole bit.No highlights in them daysq lol

I remember painting my Arfix soldiers the same way with gloss enamels and the shitest brush you can imagine  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: uti long smile on 26 January 2013, 09:03:53 AM
I'm red/green colour blind and a graphic designer - never been a major problem. But I love the thrill of watching a red line come to life on a green background :)
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 26 January 2013, 09:12:58 AM
I'm red/green colour blind and a graphic designer - never been a major problem. But I love the thrill of watching a red line come to life on a green background :)

A bit like your avatar... The bloody thing jumps all over the place  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Blackwolf on 27 January 2013, 12:16:30 AM
A bit like your avatar... The bloody thing jumps all over the place  lol

cheers

James

 lol
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: uti long smile on 27 January 2013, 10:29:09 AM
:)
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: magokiron on 27 January 2013, 08:33:55 PM
Red-green color blind too.

I guess I'm in the "low" part of the problem, as ussually if I make a concious effort, I can see most colors. But not always.

Anyhow, I have to really concentrate to see subtle differencies within the same color spectrum.

I do mix my own colors, but if I plan to use a mix more than a "one shot", I ussually mix 5, 10 or 15 ml in a new "eyedropper" bottle, as it will be near impossible to get a similar color afterwards.

Add to that a poor eyesight (I've had more eye surgery then I care to remember) and you get the idea.

And I guess that's the reason my painting style revolves around high contrasts.

Good to know there are other people in this forum with a similar issue, and most of you produce such finely painted miniatures and scenery as to became inspirational.

Best wishes.
Title: Re: Colour Blindness
Post by: Blackwolf on 28 January 2013, 06:21:20 AM
That's interesting magokiron,and I know all about the eyesight thing to,pretty much given up on mold lines,that or stab myself lol