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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: Belgian on 02 February 2013, 07:20:34 PM
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Hi, Just received an email that Megalith Games is doing a Kickstarter: Set in a rich and detailed fantasy universe named Calydorn, GODSLAYER is a fast and tactically challenging tabletop skirmish game, influenced by mythological aspects and played with highly detailed metal miniatures in a true 32mm scale. The game is designed for two or more players and offers a totally new gaming experience with several aspects never before seen. Interested in the reviews of these miniatures take a look here:
http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2013/01/godslayer-trolodyte-faction.html (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2013/01/godslayer-trolodyte-faction.html)
http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2012/11/godslayer-nordgaard-faction.html (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2012/11/godslayer-nordgaard-faction.html)
So why the Kickstarter?
Well, we have actually managed to release GODSLAYER without the help of any crowd-funding platform which earned us the trust of our customers as a serious company. So why would we risk that image and suddenly start a Kickstarter project? Well, let us be honest: even though we have become a professional company, we still have to spend tremendous time and efforts, as well as lots of money on developing and producing the English version of GODSLAYER in order to meet our demanding release schedule. The German version has always been planned for, but the big issue is that we currently do not have the necessary resources to do that in a timely manner while also continuing model releases at break-neck speed.
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This is where Kickstarter comes in. With this project we would like to raise the necessary money for translating and producing all the GODSLAYER products in German! With the money we raise here, we will be able to pay the translators and get the printing process started! Money we earn in excess to the project goal of 25K will further help us to finance GODSLAYER. Actually we already financed all the releases of the first wave (for the English version), but with this extra money we will have a much better basis which allows us to speed up the whole process and begin wave 2 earlier than planned! So let´s hope that this GODSLAYER Kickstarter project is a success and that we can produce the German version of it as well as speed up the whole release of GODSLAYER, be it in English or German! NOTE: ALL REWARDS WILL BE AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND GERMAN!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends)
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Looks interesting but for those outside the UK £12 shipping seems high...
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Also noted that but I can assure you that some of the Startersets weigh quite a lot especially the trologdyte one.
Don't know why the intro booklets postage is so high though? :?
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Very nice models, especially the 'not-roman' faction, but I am not sure I have a use for them... too many other games I am trying to find opponents for. o_o
I agree too on shipping costs - 12GBP is pretty darn high for a 30GBP item if I just want one warband. That's 40% of the price in shipping costs! Places like Gripping Beast and others charge around 20% order cost for RoW shipping, and even that seemed expensive to me. Sure, some of the miniatures are large, but the troglodyte box only has 5 figures in it...
Shipping costs seem to be fixed across the board, so I pay 12 GBP whether I buy 30GBP or 300GBP of product. Kinda encourages people to pledge more, but at the same time discourages those who just want to try it out or get some miniatures.
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Just received this from: David of Megalith Games: "Regarding the shipping costs, Kickstarter only allows one price to be entered which must apply to all orders.? Just as an example, most of the deals contain the rulebook package.? The rulebook package alone weights 2 kilos (4lbs) and costs is 34 EUR in shipping.... so we are really pay out a lot of money on most of the pledges."
Cheers
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The rulebook package alone weights 2 kilos (4lbs) and costs is 34 EUR in shipping....
Have they also mentioned, which courier they use?
Via DHL it's only 15,-€ up to 5kgs within the EU, incl. insurance and tracking. So the 12.- pounds would be alright. :? (34 EUR would be for ROW delivery.)
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Ouch, that hurts for shipping. It sure is a temptation, but I already have one skirmish game with very expensive miniatures that I am getting into. Another one might just be too much o_o
That's the hard thing with the smaller games on KS... a lot of them are really nice, but since they are smaller games, it costs a lot more to get into it, as you get less for your money than the big companies' KS campaigns. So you kinda really have to want to support the game to go in for it.
I really like their human sculpts though... not-romans, not-greeks, and the not-wood-elves all look stellar!
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Hi!
This is André from Megalith Games! David already informed about the shipping costs issue... The problem is that we can only define one single fee on Kickstarter! Even though shipping inside the UK is 15€ with DHL, shipping outside the EU is a lot more expensive and starts with 34€, quickly going up to 80€ and more!
Our products weigh quite a lot, so we normally lose money with the shipping costs, even when already charging 12 GBP... maybe not within the EU, but as soon as someone buys a starter box and a rulebook box package, we need to pay more than 12 GBP :)
Actually, even with the shipping costs, you will still be able to save money with regards to the RRPs!
Of course, the lower pledge levels don´t offer such a great bargain as the higher ones, but check out our stretch goals! The first one on 30K will already increase all the rewards of the 30 GBP level and up by some free miniatures! And there will be other free stuff added when reaching other stretch goals! So if everyone joins and supports us we will be able to expand the deals by quite some nice stuff (there will be more stretch goals online soon, including such things as free dice, tokens, etc.)
So maybe it´s worth taking a look at it! We would be happy to get a few more supporters! I will also put on some more videos regarding the gameplay and showing some of the products. Maybe that helps to get interested! :)
Best regards,
André
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Other Kickstarters I've seen mention in the text of the pledge level to add X amount for shipping to destination A, B, C etc.
Is this a way to get round the one fee problem and accomodate the pledgers?
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@Sterling Moose: that would be possible maybe, but from the current experience many people do not read all the stuff carefully enough and thus might not add the shipping costs, etc...
Anyway, I have posted a huge update on the Kickstarter project today including a new video which deals with the Starter Boxes and the Rulebook Box, giving you a short review of ALL the miniatures of the first wave! And all of that presented in spectacular English! :)
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends
You should definetely give it a try!
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Andre,
Would it not be cheaper to send parcels via Royal Mail rather than by courier? Perhaps packages with a heavy book might not be worth it, but if people wanted just a few sets of miniatures?
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Unfortunately no... check the prices for small packages to the USA. They are much higher than 12 GBP :)
Of course 12 GBP cover the cost for EU shipments, but since we can only specify one shipment fee, we need to take into account shipping stuff to the USA...
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Godslayer Kickstarter now has a new video showing the rulebook and factions.
Check it out here:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends)
Also recently added was a pledge level - Soul Harvester which allows people to expand on their wanrband if they already have one of the starter deals.
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I'm pledged at the £50 level for this and really like the look of it. Can't wait to get my scabbies on the stuff and get playing!
Can't see the Soul Harvester pledge level though? How much is that?
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Hi Kitsune,
Soul Harvester is the 55 GBP pledge level and gets you a character, a creature/war-machine and a maxed-out unit.
We are also about to add a new warband booster deal. stay tuned.
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We just added a video showing gameplay and explaining the basic rules of Godslayer at the Kickstarter site:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends)
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A) Firstly it used 2d6 not 1 D6. With 1D6 you cannot really control the probabilities because every number has an equal chance of being rolled, but with 2D6 you have the so-called bell-curve. So actions are performed with dice rolls. For example a Melee attack is MEL n+2D6 vs DEF of the target. missile attacks are MIS +2D6 vs DEF of the target, etc.
B) IGOUGO The I go you go system is much better than a turn-based system. in the I go you go system I activate a model or unit and do EVERYTHING with that model including movement, shooting, melee, and other things. Then you activate a model/unit and do eveyrthing with them. This is a much better system than turn-based because both players stay contantly engaged in the game and the situation on the battlefield is in contsant flux. I remember turned based games where one player moves so the other one goes and makes coffee for 15 minutes...
C) During an activation, each unit or individual model can perfrom actions in any order, so it can move once then shoot then move again, then use a tactic, then make an attack etc. This allows amazing realism and playability. Each model/unit has a certain number of Action tokens and every action costs a certain amount of tokens to perform. for example, moving once X your MOV value costs one action token. Most melee attacks cost 2 action tokens but some heavy attacks with 2-handed weapons cost 3 action tokens to perform, etc.
D) Most combat is simultaneous. One thing that really annoyed me with some games was that a charge was devastating. In godslayer, when my unit charges your unit, your unit make make a passive activation and perform an attack every time I perform an attack (assuming you have action tokens left over). So most charges are not devastating, but naturally charging still gives excellent bonusses and is worth doing!
E) All models have life points unlike in some games, where a model has only 1 life-pooint or "wound". These are easy to track because every model/unit has a profile card with boxes to mark off the damage for each model. And by the way, the profile cards are all laminated! so you dont have to use plastic sleeves!
There are tons of other cool things about the game, but the above are the main core mechanics. With these rules we get smooth, fast playability, coupled with awesome realism and flexibility. The rules and models were playtested for thousands of hours over a four-year period and the games therefore is incredibly well balanced.
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Hey guys,
Godslayer Kickstarter has new videos posted demonstrating gameplay and additional videos discussing the playing style of each faction.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends)
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For all of you that are curious about the model sizes:
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New deal just added to the Godslayer Kickstarter!:
ELITE VETERAN
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends)
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The hill ogres look quite nice. How big are they?
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Hi Timbor,
Hill Ogres are 50mm from base to top of natural head when standing straight.
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This one is cooking along nicely. Even though I'm going greek, the other factions are pretty tempting as well.
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Today we passed the 75% mark and even reached 81% of the Kickstarter target!
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY GREAT!!! THANK YOU ALL!!!
We have rearranged some of the stretch goals. Now they are closer to reaching and we are only half way, so if everyone spreads the word and convinces a friend to start Godslayer we could really unlock most or all of them by the deadline.
The best news is that we were feeling so happy and crazy today that we unlocked the stretch goals for the free trooper models and Godslayer map! That's a thanks to the many dedicated backers who have supported us so far!
Andre has spent several hours updating the Kickstarter site and created new reward images that will show all the unlocked and locked stretch goals for each reward.
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I must say I am impressed with the enthusiasm and support you guys have offered for your project. I would like to back your project, but my hobby funds are shot for the month... we will see if I can swing anything at the start of march before the campaign ends. Keep up the good work.
I think the not-greeks (halodynes) would be my faction of choice. Very dynamic poses and sculpting.
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I'm in the same boat as timbor, would like to but funds don't stretch that far atm. I'd gor for mortans, I always seem to go for zombies
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The Mortans are very nice as well, though I am not as keen on zombies, hence my preference for the halodynes.
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Can't really justify yet another system, but I hope this kickstarter succeeds.
I will probably get those two floating priestess figures at some point.
Really like those models.
I really like the 'roman' and 'spartan' faction.
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Just wondering... for the 'Centuria Commander' option for the Halodynes.
You get 2 Unit Cores + 2 Trooper boxes... how many actual miniatures is that?
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Just wondering... for the 'Centuria Commander' option for the Halodynes.
You get 2 Unit Cores + 2 Trooper boxes... how many actual miniatures is that?
16 from what I read it as, less for the bigger models (e.g. beastmen, trogs and apparently the wyldfolk).
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Hi guys,
I understand about the finances. No problem. If you miss the Kickstarter you can still get stuff at the regular prices., Our prices are pretty good compared to other heroic-scale 32mm skirmish models, and the rulebook package is awesome value, so you can still geta good deal even at normal prices.
Of course Kickstarter offers even more....
Tim, here's the Centuria Commander model count is as follows:
Banebrood - 2X 6-model Maldire Mongreln units, plus 2 characters, 1 warlord and 2 Creatures.
Halodynes - 2X 8-model Hoplite units, plus 2 characters, 1 warlord and 2 Creatures.
Mortans - 2X 8-model Legionnaire units, plus 2 characters, 1 warlord and 2 war-machines.
Nordgaard - 2X 8-model fjell Warrior units, plus 2 characters, 1 warlord and 2 Creatures.
Troglodytes - 2X 5-model Ironhide Brutes units, plus 1 character, 1 warlord and 2 Creatures.
Wyldfolk - 3X 6-model Bladeslinger units, plus 2 characters, 1 warlord and 2 ogre-size characters.
They work out to be about the same value in terms of retail price, with Wyldfolk being the best deal.
In terms of model points values they are as follows (including the stretch-goal characters which has now been unlocked):
Banebrood 324
Halodynes 346
Mortans 365
Nordgaard 352
Troglodytes 332
Wyldfolk 363
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Thanks, that is very helpful!
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Hey Everyone,
Thanks for all your support so far; as of this post, we are sitting at £20,869 on the Kickstarter, so getting close to the 25,000 goal.
Ideally we would love to get to 35,000 to unlock the stretch goals so please spread the word.
We have redeisgned and added content to the KS page so that you can download the cards for each faction and see a video describing how each faction plays.http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends)
12 days to go! get your deals now!
In case anyone wants to see some independent reviews of Godslayer, here are some links:
Rules
Godslayer Review Podcast on Wee Gamers: http://weegamers.blogspot.de/2013/02/wee...layer.html (http://weegamers.blogspot.de/2013/02/wee...layer.html)
Quick-Start Rules Review on Beasts of War: http://www.beastsofwar.com/godslayer/god...es-review/ (http://www.beastsofwar.com/godslayer/god...es-review/)
Quick-Start Rules Review on SoloWargamingShow: http://solowargamingshow.wordpress.com/2...review-32/ (http://solowargamingshow.wordpress.com/2...review-32/)
Game Review on FanplasticLittleMen:
Part 1: http://fanplasticlittlemen.blogspot.co.u...1.html?m=1 (http://fanplasticlittlemen.blogspot.co.u...1.html?m=1)
Part 2: http://fanplasticlittlemen.blogspot.co.u...art-2.html (http://fanplasticlittlemen.blogspot.co.u...art-2.html)
Quick-Start and Starter Box Review on The Shellcase: http://theshellcase.co.uk/2013/02/05/god...-a-review/
Faction reviews
Troglodyte Review on Wargame Terrain: http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2013/0...ction.html (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2013/0...ction.html)
Nordgaard Review on Wargame Terrain: http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2012/1...ction.html (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2012/1...ction.html)
Halodynes: [url=http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=71254]http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=71254]: [url]http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=71254]http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=71254]http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=71254]: [url]http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=71254 (http://: [url=http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=71254)
Mortans: http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=71382 [/url]
Some of the coming and next releases:
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Godslayer Kickstarter has an awesome new deal for 20 GBP!
Anyone still on the fence should grab this offer which includes a warlord and a basic unit plus the quickstart rules. With this deal you can try out the basic rules and get a feel for the game.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends)
Also available are some new high-end deals.
Here's the 20 GBP deal - Lucky Adventurer
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Currently standing at 93% of reaching Kickstarter goal.
10 days left.
Still time to jump on board and grab some of the awesome deals.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends)
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Alright, you converted me officially. A friend and I have pledged together. Only about 750GBP until the project reaches its funding goal!
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We reached the Kickstarter Goal of 25,000 GBP!
Thanks to everyone who pledged!!!
Now German Godslayer will be financed!
We are currently standing at £29,073, so only 927 GBP from reaching the first stretch goal!
With 3 days to go, we can still make it. so if anyone is still considering, now's the time to get your great deal
3 days left!
Want to see a review about Godslayer?
Check out this review from Wee Gamers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m1UoM7IUis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m1UoM7IUis)
Here you can see the next stretch goals:
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47 hours left to pledge!
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4 hours left to pledge for these great deals.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1948302892/godslayer-rise-of-legends)