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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Diceplague on 13 March 2013, 10:09:42 PM
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Yeah... I know what you´re thinking: "Here we go... another crazy mambo-jambo to strip paint..."
But this is IT!!! The so incredible simple tip to strip paint (oil and acrilic) on metal, plastic and even resin with a fast, secure, proven and easy way.
I´m too lazy and chemical frightened to wait for days soaking minis on smelly and hazardous chemicals that can transform your brain in a useless jelly. I wanted a fast and harmless way to do it and have tried everything I saw in foruns like this. All I achieved was a partially screwed miniature, itching hands and complaints from my better half. Until one day I was cleaning my brushes with the Winsor & Newton Brush cleaner and restorer and I accidentally let a drip fall on a primed metal miniature. When I tried to clean it the paint was already dissolving and EUREKA!!!
All you need to do is to use one old toothbrush with a small amount of the brush cleaner and you can strip ALL THE PAINT within less than a minute of not so vigorous brushing (I´m lazy... have I told you that?).
I´ve tried on metal, plastic and resin and the results were the same: stripped paint and one unscratched mini in seconds. It´s sooooo fast that you will not believe that you had lost your time with all the voodoo procedures. It´s health safe as its written on the bottle but I usually do it outside the house (there´s some fumes that you can smell). With just a bottle cap of the liquid I can clean 3-4 28mm minis and in a matter of minutes It´ll be ready to paint all over again!!! I don´t know if other brush cleaners will work ´cause I´ve never tried (my 120ml of the stuff is lasting forever). FAST, CHEAP AND EASY just like this lazy-cheaper-hobbyst like it!
PS1.: Use an old brush as it will be rendered useless (except for striping again) :D
PS2.: I don´t own the company or sell the stuff ;D
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Will give this a go on one or two of the mountain of figures which I've put in the "Let's try that again" category. The other name for this category is the "Was I drunk when I painted that?" list.
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... The other name for this category is the "Was I drunk when I painted that?" list.
Yeap! Have some of those too... and the answer is... yes, i was... lol
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It is a good job it strips in seconds as I had put some in a hard plastic container to clean my brushes, went back the next day and it had eaten through the plastic........................
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Thanks for the tip. I've been wanting to strip a few figs and was wondering what to try first. :)
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Will have to give this a go.
Could be the end of those Dettol fumes.....please.
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Diceplague;
Where do you get this "Winsor & Newton Brush cleaner and restorer" product? Also, will it work on the Wizkids figures or will it be too harsh and melt them like it did Mindenbrush's hard plastic container? Finally, do you have to rinse them off afterwards, and will paint adhere to the surface after they have been stripped?
Thanks for the answers in advance.
Regards,
Hitman
8)
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Cor. :o
This (http://www.winsornewton.com/products/oils-solvents-mediums--varnishes/artists-care-range/artgel/) is the only brush cleaner I can find on the W&N site. Is that it...?
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@ Hitman : I´ve bought mine on Michael´s Store at US. Two days ago I´ve stripped the paint on a mini that came with the Ravenloft Board Game. It was a skeleton made of a very soft and cheap plastic and the skeleton was unscratched nor softer than it was before. Maybe because It´s very fast to brush and take all the paint (less than 1 minute) an with just a little amount of the stuff. Rinse aftewards and let the mini a couple of seconds under runnig water. Had no problem with priming and painting none of my stripped minis (and they were under pressure on the gaming table with kids of 6 and 4 years old ;) ).
@ Vermis: (http://0.tqn.com/d/miniatures/1/G/-/c/0/-/winsor-newton-brush-cleaner.jpg) This is the one i have. I´m pretty sure they sell it on Amazon.
I´ll try to make a video to show how mindblowingfast is to use it but I live in the heart of the rainforest in Brazil and my internet connection sucks so much that even the thought of uploading a video make my body shudder in lazy despair... ::) Maybe one of you good chaps over here can prove the method and post his impressions for everyone or wait about 2 weeks when I´ll be back to civilization lol. I guarantee that you´ll find it amazing too.
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@ Vermis: This is the one i have. I´m pretty sure they sell it on Amazon.
They do, but it still has to be shipped from the US. Doing a google for it, it does seem to be an americas-only product. :? I wonder if that orange gunge would do the same job...
I´ll try to make a video to show how mindblowingfast is to use it but I live in the heart of the rainforest in Brazil
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Wow.
So did you mean 'Amazon' the website, or...? ;D ;)
Edit: oh, waitaminnit... the W&N site also has this (http://www.winsornewton.com/products/oils-solvents-mediums--varnishes/oil-colour-oils-solvents-mediums--varnishes/solvents/brush-cleaner/), squirrelled away. Looks like a safer bet as an equivalent, if not the same thing.
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@ Vermis : Yeah. My bet is that it´ll work too. I meant Amazon website. But in the Amazon Selva (jungle) you can get great stuffs for wargaming too!!! For free!!! lol My life on the jungle is a pulp dream (sometimes nightmares) baby! ;D
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Would love to see a video on it!
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Does it work as well with metallic paints? (Acrylic paint in metallic colors, that is)
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@cherno: Yes it works on metal color if is acrylic or oil paint
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I tried it today and it really does work well, put some in a container and dropped my 'matt varnish' test figure in it which has around 20 coats of polyuretane matt varnish on it. Back to bare metal in about 30 minutes.
BUT!
Beware leaving plastic figures in for too long as they will melt. I tried a piece of spruce from a Renedra building kit and that only took 15 minutes to soften and disfigure.
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Mindenbrush you don´t put in a container, you have to brush directly on the mini. Just wet the toothbrush on the cleaner and start brushing the mini. Try that way and you will see that It works just fine. Don´t be lazy brother! lol
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Edit: oh, waitaminnit... the W&N site also has this (http://www.winsornewton.com/products/oils-solvents-mediums--varnishes/oil-colour-oils-solvents-mediums--varnishes/solvents/brush-cleaner/), squirrelled away.
Picked up a bottle today. I'll try it tomorrow, fingers crossed. I have a lot of minis in dire need of a good stripping.
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I'm getting some mixed signals from this stuff. I'm not entirely sure it's the same thing that Diceplague has.
I tried it on five second-hand minis. After giving them all a good scrub, a few flakes of yellow paint started coming off one of them. Though I don't know if it's because they weren't varnished and I was attacking them with toothbrush and fingernails.
Then I tried one I'd painted myself - primed with black gesso, given a few patches of colour with Coat D'arms silver and a couple of GW foundation paints. The silver started coming off after a minute or so and the gesso after that. The foundation paints are still stubbonly clinging on, though there are one or two signs they're weakening. So... yeah. It's working, to some extent, but I think I'll try soaking with it next, when I can scare up a suitable container.
Also, I'm getting a whiff off the stuff. Not exactly like dettol/pine disinfectant (definitely not as strong anyway) but similar. It also foams up fairly readily when I start scrubbing. Does any of that sound familiar, Diceplague?
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Overnight soak: this is definitely weaker stuff than the american version. Paint is coming off, but no better than some of the other lacklustre strippers I've tried. Still patches clinging on, especially around recesses. The paint layer seems to be loosened rather than dissolved or melted, and a bit of gentle prodding with a thumbnail persuades it to move on more easily than vigorous scrubbing with a toothbrush. Though I'm going to leave the half-stripped minis in for another night, and get a stiffer-bristled toothbrush tomorrow.
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I have purchased this product today to try it out on some figures that really need a fresh start. I purchased the 4 oz bottle with the black print on the container and not the one I seen on ebay that is printed with the red labeling on the container ( the Micheals I puchased this item from did not have the red labeled item), I had contemplated the red printed one and opted to hold off untill a visit to Micheals Arts and Crafts in hopes of obtaining the same item that is mentioned here for my own analysis, after reading about the different cleaners on other continents concearning this product and its different performances and for the most part just wanted to leave it alone. If the US version is stronger and only available in the US, than this is the same as described by the OP...... I am only sure of one of the two and that this has performed as decribed, yes its available in the US, the one as discribed by the OP ( US black labeled) is one in the same and was shocked on its performance, I poured vary little in a metal container used for measuring cooking spices ( used for hobby) purposes only and with the 28mm horse in one hand and armed with an old tooth brush dipped the brush in this product and proceded to rub the figure with the brush and the old paint was just literally running from the figure as fast as gravity could take it. The 4oz bottle was on the shelf for $7.99 and a larger bottle that was of course next to the smaller was priced at $ 17.00 and for the life of me can not remember the size, but it was a very large bottle and struck me as what will I do with all of this if purchased and it does not work as well as anticipated, but after giving it a go, I will definately purchase the larger bottle on the return trip ( should last a lifetime). I am not in the habiit of removing paint from my figures but after a recent ebay purchase of high end quality figures with not so good paint on them............. well, you can connect the dots.... and another good point about this product is that it is bio degradable and you can perform this in less than one minute per figure in the comfort of your paint station without damage to your brain cells or anyone elses..
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was shocked on its performance, I poured vary little in a metal container used for measuring cooking spices ( used for hobby) purposes only and with the 28mm horse in one hand and armed with an old tooth brush dipped the brush in this product and proceded to rub the figure with the brush and the old paint was just literally running from the figure as fast as gravity could take it.
Hi Jim! Thanks for posting your experience. Like I said I was mesmerized to see how easy and fast is to strip paint with the brush cleaner especially when I have tried all the dangerous and slow process that we can see in some tutorials on the net. I hope that in sharing our experience we can help some fellow gamers.
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A slight tangent here, but since we're talking...
Frustrated with the Blighty brush cleaner, I bought a bottle of Fairy power spray (http://www.fairy-dish.co.uk/uk/fairy/product/5413149090262). I've seen people recommend it for stripping minis, but never got around to using it. (Dettol disappointment had something to do with that) I poured some into a jar and dunked a couple of minis in it.
Wow. :o
The paint on the minis - some old '80's minis among them - started to wrinkle up and lift away within five minutes. Brushed off very easily. A few stubborn bits clung to the recesses, as usual, but an extra soak and a pin took care of that. It's the best paint stripper I've tried. Even started to lift primer after a while, which isn't something I'd expect of other plastic-friendly products.