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Title: Painting Help Needed - Updated with first attempt
Post by: cstoesen on March 20, 2013, 12:54:27 AM
I have several packs of Peter Pig miniatures from their "Hey, You in the Jail" range.  I was thinking of starting to paint these up but I have no idea where to begin.  Can someone point me to or offer up a basic painting guide for me?  I am partially color blind so actual paint colors would help greatly (this is why pictures are not so helpful for me).  I mostly use vallejo model colors.

Thanks in advance.

Chris
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: Orctrader on March 20, 2013, 07:25:07 PM
Can someone point me to or offer up a basic painting guide for me?  I am partially color blind...

Old West? 

Why not try some dark colours.  Black, brown, grey, blue.  Not so much a painting guide as  "just keep it quite dark and muted." 

Link if it helps.  http://www.orctrader.co.uk/OldWest.html
Most only three "levels" of colour.
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: cstoesen on March 20, 2013, 07:35:35 PM
Thanks.  I will see what I can come up with. 
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: Elbows on March 20, 2013, 08:15:56 PM
Easiest way would be to simply watch some Old West films.  Historically, while generic Cowboys did wear muted outfits (leather only comes in so many shades or brown!)...plenty of people had rather colourful shirts and fancy duds.

Tombstone the movie did a pretty good job of showing this off.  I keep my models muted, with an occasional brighter blouse/shirt etc.  Well-dressed men could be rather lavish outfits, but your average homesteader would be wearing very cheap, minimalist clothing - rugged, and often very dirty.  Cowboys on the trail would have been wearing the same clothes for months at a time, with an occasional wash in the river.

I like using colours which look as if they were vibrant at one point, but have been faded by the sun.   :)  At the end of the day, is anyone going to care?  Nope. :D  Choose what you want!
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: cstoesen on March 20, 2013, 08:19:20 PM
OK.  Good point.  I will take a crack at this tonight.  I have my first few figures on painting sticks and ready to go.
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: Elbows on March 20, 2013, 08:31:04 PM
Pardon the crap paintjobs, but here's an example of my figures and what I mean.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/Gaming/006-1_zps86e30cae.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/Gaming/005-1_zps798ccb72.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/Gaming/004-1_zps34cd1b2f.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/Gaming/003-1_zps4d753a24.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/Gaming/002-1_zps82afd465.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Elbaus/Gaming/001-1_zps78fa6545.jpg)

You can see the "work" clothing is very muted, and dull...but many guys have bright ties or shirts, etc.  I think it's a pretty decent assumption.  Not saying it's correct, but it works for me.  Gives me guys just enough flavour.  I like contrast of the browns with stuff like pink/sky blue etc.
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: cstoesen on March 20, 2013, 08:39:50 PM
I think I see what you mean.
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: Treebeard on March 21, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
Pardon the crap paintjobs

Your paintjob is not crap at all but it is "ruined" by the glossy varnish.
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: dodge on March 21, 2013, 10:20:21 AM
Definitely dark muted dusty type colours is what you need

dodge
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: Elbows on March 21, 2013, 12:57:38 PM
Your paintjob is not crap at all but it is "ruined" by the glossy varnish.

It's a personal preference.  lol  It's Army Painter's medium shade.  Oddly they're not nearly that glossy appearing on the games table.  I bought a can of flattening spray, but then decided I actually like the look.  Reminds me of my Britain's Miniatures from when I was a kid...so now I just leave them.   :-X
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: Eric the Shed on March 21, 2013, 01:26:00 PM
Elbows - I like the gloss look - its how I do my figures.

Looking good

Eric
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: The_Wisecrack on March 21, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
i run a VERY cheap painting service. i would be happy to take a look at some of them~? ? my rates for peter pig are extremely good if i may say so. i think starting at 75P.

www.easypainter.weebly.com (http://www.easypainter.weebly.com)

check it out for inspiration either way. LOOOOTS of old west over there. it is my favourite genre
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: cstoesen on March 21, 2013, 02:00:29 PM
Your price seems reasonable but the postage to the US would kill me.
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: Treebeard on March 21, 2013, 04:41:08 PM
It's a personal preference.  lol  It's Army Painter's medium shade.  Oddly they're not nearly that glossy appearing on the games table.  I bought a can of flattening spray, but then decided I actually like the look.  Reminds me of my Britain's Miniatures from when I was a kid...so now I just leave them.   :-X

Fair enough :)
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed
Post by: cstoesen on March 21, 2013, 06:30:04 PM
OK, here is my first effort.  I messed it up.  I used Windsor & Newton ink for shading.  I was supposed to brush on some varnish before reaching for the matt varnish.  Ooops.  i ended up spraying the matt varnish first.  Now the minis are a bit dark.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Pu-AOY58GZo/UUtOPdHsZsI/AAAAAAAAB6s/UGC37-JIJoo/s1600/OverheadCowboys.jpg)
Sorry for the blurry picture.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ASZIyJtceA4/UUtQmptKbiI/AAAAAAAAB7I/s-wIztgDvpg/s1600/FrontCowboys.jpg)
These were taken with my cell and are not the best quality.

Is there hope for these?  Should I repaint.  Any suggestions?

Chris
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed - Updated with first attempt
Post by: Elbows on March 21, 2013, 07:45:40 PM
The photo quality is pretty poor, but at a glance they look fine to me. 
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed - Updated with first attempt
Post by: cstoesen on March 21, 2013, 07:50:58 PM
Yeah.  Sorry about that.  Took them with my phone while at home for lunch before fleeing back to the office.
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed - Updated with first attempt
Post by: Elbows on March 21, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
Hey CStoesen - I see you're in Atlanta.  Did you go to the Siege of Augusta convention?  I'm over in Charleston, we should try to meet up and game sometime.
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed - Updated with first attempt
Post by: cstoesen on March 21, 2013, 08:22:16 PM
No.  I missed out on that.  I had some friends go but I missed out.  Where about in Charleston?  I had family there many moons ago and used to go there in the summer as a kid.
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed - Updated with first attempt
Post by: Elbows on March 21, 2013, 08:51:12 PM
Just north of it.  I'm looking to maybe go to GnomeCon down in Savannah, but the price is a bit steep for a place I've never visited ($45 for the freakin' weekend...)

I'm also likely going to head up to NashCon in May.
Title: Re: Painting Help Needed - Updated with first attempt
Post by: cstoesen on March 21, 2013, 08:57:45 PM
Cool. I will check and see what I have going on.  Maybe I can make one of those.