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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Aventine on 12 April 2013, 03:31:52 PM

Title: EIR Legionaries with Manuballista
Post by: Aventine on 12 April 2013, 03:31:52 PM
Legionaries with manuballista. Each pack has two firing, one carrying and another loading. These weapons were loaded by pushing the slide on the ground to cock it. We made they for a good customer of ours as we liked the idea over the knowledge that they did not appear on any lists. They have the arms of the weapon cast separately and will need some assembly.

EIR70
(http://www.aventineminiatures.co.uk/catalog/images/EIR70.JPG)

EIR71
(http://www.aventineminiatures.co.uk/catalog/images/EIR71.JPG)

Cheers
Keith
Aventine Miniatures
http://www.aventineminiatures.co.uk/catalog/index.php (http://www.aventineminiatures.co.uk/catalog/index.php)
Title: Re: EIR Legionaries with Manuballista
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 12 April 2013, 07:51:03 PM
Very nice stuff, well done, Keith and Adam.
Title: Re: EIR Legionaries with Manuballista
Post by: aecurtis on 12 April 2013, 11:24:56 PM
The wide open mouths when preparing to shoot and shooting: is that like how gunners deal with the sudden compression of air when firing modern artillery?   lol

Allen
Title: Re: EIR Legionaries with Manuballista
Post by: commissarmoody on 12 April 2013, 11:42:05 PM
The wide open mouths when preparing to shoot and shooting: is that like how gunners deal with the sudden compression of air when firing modern artillery?   lol

Allen
Don't you know that you are more accurate when screaming out a battle cry or saying one liners?  :D
Title: Re: EIR Legionaries with Manuballista
Post by: Aventine on 12 April 2013, 11:45:06 PM
Maybe he caught his finger in the release...lol


Cheers
Keith
Title: Re: EIR Legionaries with Manuballista
Post by: aecurtis on 13 April 2013, 03:18:47 AM
Don't you know that you are more accurate when screaming out a battle cry or saying one liners?  :D

What do you call a Dacian who's been skewered by a manuballista?

Shish kebab.

Allen
Title: Re: EIR Legionaries with Manuballista
Post by: Condottiere on 14 April 2013, 02:07:55 AM
Keith, what you've produced is a scorpio minor, a catapult, not a manuballista. The manuballista that Vegetius referred to was the Latin for cheiroballistra.

(http://www.thehurl.org/show_image.php?id=595&scalesize=0&nocount=y)

More about the differences, I refer to Duncan B Campbell's post: http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/17-roman-military-history-a-archaeology/19669-aitor-alert-manuballista-found.html?start=60#74278 (http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/17-roman-military-history-a-archaeology/19669-aitor-alert-manuballista-found.html?start=60#74278)

Title: Re: EIR Legionaries with Manuballista
Post by: aecurtis on 14 April 2013, 03:11:30 AM
There are multiple RAT threads about manuballistae.  There have been many opinions expressed about manuballistae, both there and elsewhere.  There's an old saying about opinions. 

Allen
Title: Re: EIR Legionaries with Manuballista
Post by: Condottiere on 14 April 2013, 03:58:24 AM
There are multiple RAT threads about manuballistae.  There have been many opinions expressed about manuballistae, both there and elsewhere.  There's an old saying about opinions.  

Allen
Yes, there have many opinions, but Campbell knows his artillery.
Five year old post: http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/20-roman-re-enactment-a-reconstruction/181266-manuballista.html?start=15#182359
 (http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/20-roman-re-enactment-a-reconstruction/181266-manuballista.html?start=15#182359)
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By the way, none of the German sources that published the Xanten catapult have ever called it a manuballista.
DBC's post from two years ago: http://www.ancient-warfare.org/rat/20-roman-re-enactment-a-reconstruction/281049-xanten-manuballista.html#281209 (http://www.ancient-warfare.org/rat/20-roman-re-enactment-a-reconstruction/281049-xanten-manuballista.html#281209):
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Today, I received a copy of Xantener Berichte Band 18: H.-J. Schalles (ed.), Die frühkaiserzeitliche manuballista aus Xanten-Wardt (Zabern: Mainz, 2010). I am sorry to see that, in the book title, they have (erroneously in my opinion) labelled the machine as a "manuballista"; however, in the articles within the book, it is labelled (more correctly) as a "Torsionswaffe" or "Torsionskatapult".