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Title: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: itchy on 16 April 2013, 11:15:56 PM
before you get too excited read the cast list

47 Ronin (2013)
Action | Drama

An 18th century set story centered on a band of samurai who set out to avenge the death of their master.
Director:Carl Rinsch
Stars:Keanu Reeves, Hiroyuki Sanada, Tadanobu Asano, Kô Shibasaki
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Hildred Castaigne on 16 April 2013, 11:49:14 PM
The Last 47 Ronin?  o_o
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Gibby on 17 April 2013, 06:49:16 PM
Keanu Reeves?  lol
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Post by: traveller on 17 April 2013, 07:03:28 PM
Sounds interesting...
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Post by: Alcidas on 17 April 2013, 07:22:34 PM
Keanu Reeves?  lol

He knows Kung-Fu...
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Post by: Sangennaru on 17 April 2013, 07:48:09 PM
He knows Kung-Fu...

lol lol lol
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Post by: Plynkes on 17 April 2013, 07:50:01 PM
Did 18th Century Ronin train against wooden practice dummies?

Coz if so he would be perfect for that role.
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Post by: oldskoolrebel on 17 April 2013, 07:56:51 PM
Did 18th Century Ronin train against wooden practice dummies?

Coz if so he would be perfect for that role.

 lol  Very clever Mr Plynkes, very clever. I can see that you have played this game before!
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Sangennaru on 17 April 2013, 07:58:46 PM
Did 18th Century Ronin train against wooden practice dummies?

Coz if so he would be perfect for that role.

actually, he was training against a big black guy. And it was hard to find in the 18th century japan.
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 18 April 2013, 08:41:06 AM
I've seen a couple of pictures...

It's going to be shit...

 :-X

cheers

James
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on 23 July 2013, 08:24:57 PM
If you weren't worried before these poster will surely do the trick  :(  >:( :(

(http://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/2013/papa_vinyard/47r_tsr1sheet_keanu_rgb_0722_1_big.jpg)

(http://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/2013/papa_vinyard/47r_tsr1sheet_woman_rgb_0719_1_big.jpg)

(http://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/2013/papa_vinyard/47r_tsr1sheet_armor_rgb_0719_1_big.jpg)

(http://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/2013/papa_vinyard/47r_tsr1sheet_skull_rgb_0722_1_big.jpg)

God this looks terrible, I still want to see it though as it has my all time favourite actor in it, Tadanobu Asano. I even watched Battleship cause he was in it, and it can't be worse then Battleship, right?  ;)
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Lowtardog on 23 July 2013, 08:31:50 PM
Looks like its gone all 300 or Sincity :'(
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Post by: LeadAsbestos on 23 July 2013, 08:42:00 PM
Oh dear...
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 23 July 2013, 08:59:46 PM
I've seen a couple of pictures...

It's going to be shit...

 :-X

cheers

James

Firm but fair ...  :)
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Bugsda on 23 July 2013, 09:38:47 PM
That's a shame, I got all excited when I read the title and then I saw the pics and lost the fucking will to live! Pass me my wakizashi  :'(
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 23 July 2013, 09:44:56 PM
Firm but fair ...  :)

And more than true  :?

Ah well, never mind eh?

cheers

James
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Smith on 23 July 2013, 10:00:41 PM
I dunno, it looks like it could be to samurai what 300 was to hoplites... and stupid as 300 was, it was enjoyable.

Personally, I'd be a lot more concerned if Keanu Reeves was in it and they attempted to play it straight.

For anyone after a more serious samurai film, the re-imagining of Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven got a trailer recently:

http://youtu.be/OzXbJtt406U
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Elk101 on 23 July 2013, 10:03:05 PM
I like a good historical drama. I enjoyed Keanu's last such foray, 'Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure'.
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Post by: Donpimpom on 24 July 2013, 07:39:47 PM
For anyone after a more serious samurai film, the re-imagining of Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven got a trailer recently:
http://youtu.be/OzXbJtt406U
:o
Unforgiven with katanas? where I must sign for it?
that trailer looks much better than "Neo vs the tattoed samurai"
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: elysium64 on 24 July 2013, 11:38:07 PM
And I present to you for your perusal the long awaited trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8cKdDkkIYY
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Evilcartoonist on 25 July 2013, 12:47:46 AM
I dunno, it looks like it could be to samurai what 300 was to hoplites... and stupid as 300 was, it was enjoyable.

Personally, I'd be a lot more concerned if Keanu Reeves was in it and they attempted to play it straight.

For anyone after a more serious samurai film, the re-imagining of Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven got a trailer recently:

http://youtu.be/OzXbJtt406U

A good way to put it; If I can enjoy 300 for what it was, I guess I could enjoy 47 Ronin, too.
I look forward to Japanese Unforgiven!
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Whtknt1066 on 25 July 2013, 04:44:22 AM
Oh, for the love of...*sigh* yeah.  Yeah, I'll be seeing it.  Damn it.
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Lowtardog on 25 July 2013, 08:22:43 AM
Oh, for the love of...*sigh* yeah.  Yeah, I'll be seeing it.  Damn it.

Yep me too lol
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: elysium64 on 25 July 2013, 09:05:21 AM
Oh, for the love of...*sigh* yeah.  Yeah, I'll be seeing it.  Damn it.

I was really against this movie as I have read a lot about the actual 47 Ronin both truth and folklore, but having seen the trailer i will go see it, with a view that I am watching a Japanese fantasy movie. Time to switch the brain off, but even then I am pretty sure I will come out fuming, expect a rant from me on here in a few month's time >:D
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Pentaro on 25 July 2013, 09:36:16 AM
Wow, didn't Stephen Turnbull work in this film?

-That's wrong, a samurai would hold his sword this way.
-To kill a dragon?
-Umm, yeah.
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Smith on 25 July 2013, 09:43:38 AM
Yeah, he was the historical advisor. We commissioned him to do the RAID title on the 47 Ronin, then later that week he was approached to work on the movie. I'm not saying Osprey had a hand in that, but...  ;D
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: DoctorPete on 26 July 2013, 06:11:05 AM
After seeing the trailer I am left feeling quite ill.  I guess I was hoping for something else...not a sword and sorcery fantasy movie.  Since they are going off into the realm of goofyness, perhaps they could have hired Tom Cruise to be the hero's dwarf sidekick (after all, he learned sword-play for The Last Samurai).  >:(
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on 31 July 2013, 12:24:50 PM
Just seen the trailer and was rather disappointed to see that Hiroyuki Sanada is in it  :'(

I suppose if I can forget the title then it might just be watchable  :?

cheers

James
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Post by: Bugsda on 31 July 2013, 06:08:51 PM
I've changed my mind, It looks great  8)
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 31 July 2013, 06:14:15 PM
I've changed my mind, It looks great  8)

 lol

Sorry, that made me laugh  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: THE CID on 31 July 2013, 08:01:35 PM
Looks daft, but alright for a drunken night on DVD.
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: starkadder on 31 July 2013, 10:31:24 PM
Aaaargh, I have just seen the trailer and it looks awful.

The gai-jin saves the day, eh? Why have they let Reeves go off his medication again?

I'll enjoy posting a review or seventy on Rotten tomatoes and IMDB.
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: white knight on 01 August 2013, 07:57:36 AM
The gai-jin saves the day, eh?

It's a long standing movie tradition that a washed out white man, preferrably with a drinking problem, who trains for a couple of days/weeks will surpass any samurai who was bred for it and trained all his life. Just common sense, really.
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Post by: Modhail on 01 August 2013, 08:18:51 AM
Ooh, ooh, don't forget the troubled past and/or heavy conscience!
Can't be White-man-who-saves-the-world without it...
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Post by: elysium64 on 01 August 2013, 08:38:52 AM
Doi detect a touch of cynicism here  :D
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Post by: Mr Tough Guy on 01 August 2013, 08:46:16 AM
Just seen the trailer and was rather disappointed to see that Hiroyuki Sanada is in it  :'(

yeah the cast is surprisingly good, with some decent actors, shame they had to shoehorn keannu in it, or is this secretly Bill and Ted 3? in which case it all makes sense and I forgive him immediatly  ;)
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Modhail on 01 August 2013, 11:37:56 AM
Doi detect a touch of cynicism here  :D

Maybe a bit of resentful disappointment.  ;)
I am rather curious about the movie though. I intend to ignore the name completely and just watch it as a fantasy flick.
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Suber on 01 August 2013, 11:55:10 AM
If you dare, you can have a look at the 1962 movie. I say 'dare' as it's three and a half hours long. Of course there is sloooow action (except for the final battle, which it's totally cool) and lots of Japanese introspection and debate about duty and honour. (I believe there is even a previous movie shot in 1941).

I don't know why they keep the same title, don't really think it can be taken for a remake, nor the movie or the original story. Maybe another kind of approach would be more successful.
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Dal on 15 August 2013, 08:55:04 AM
Hmmm what next.... 

 Keanu as an Edo period law enforcement officer...

   "Watashi wa shin  sen  kumi no ējento"

Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Legion1963 on 20 August 2013, 07:28:51 AM
Not to fond of Mr Reeves either. However, it was the first serious 1/35 scale modelkit that i did sp i might watch it, at some later date and for only that reason and curiosity.
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: starkadder on 20 August 2013, 07:39:33 AM
I don't know why they keep the same title, don't really think it can be taken for a remake, nor the movie or the original story. Maybe another kind of approach would be more successful.

The 47 Ronin story has a similar cultural echo to the OK Corral in the US or Ned Kelly in Australia. Everyone in Japan knows the story and just wants to see that generation's interpretation. Sadly, this generation's version has been corrupted by manga and short attention spans.

I have copies of of Mizoguchi's 1940s version and Inagaki's 1960s version. It's really useful to look at them as cultural mirrors of their times. I much prefer Mizoguchi.
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Slayer on 20 August 2013, 09:44:30 AM
well i seem to be the only one who is looking forward to watching this, i go into a movie expecting nothing but to escape reality and have something resembling a plot....   
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: white knight on 20 August 2013, 10:02:21 AM
I think it could be a fun movie, the only reason they're getting so much preemptive flak is that the title made people expect something it's not.
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Post by: Vermis on 20 August 2013, 12:32:22 PM
I think it could be a fun movie, the only reason they're getting so much preemptive flak is that the title made people expect something it's not.

Yeah, funny how slapping the name of an established story on a movie will make people expect something resembling it.  ;D
I've thought it a few times: "I dunno what that was, but they shouldn't have called it X 'cos it ain't that!"
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: white knight on 20 August 2013, 01:11:13 PM
I agree they only have themselves to blame. They were trying to cash in on an established subject while doing their own thing and it backfired.

This being said, how many young people really know there is something else called "47 ronin" out there? Or give a fuck?
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Post by: Mr Tough Guy on 20 August 2013, 03:52:06 PM
This being said, how many young people really know there is something else called "47 ronin" out there? Or give a fuck?

maybe not in the west but I'd guess it's a pretty well known story in Japan, and even in the west it's not completly unknown, Dark Horse had a comic about it penciled by Stan Sakai that just finished a few months ago
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Pentaro on 20 August 2013, 05:43:23 PM
Dark Horse had a comic about it penciled by Stan Sakai that just finished a few months ago

Is it good?
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Post by: Mr Tough Guy on 20 August 2013, 05:59:45 PM
Is it good?
I loved it, but I'm a fan of Stan's work in General, although it took a while getting used to seeing him do humans instead of bunnies  ;)
But yeah it's quite good, and it even had Kazuo Koike serving as a consultant
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Pentaro on 20 August 2013, 07:59:47 PM
Humans? Nuts!

I like SS and KK a lot, so I'll order it as soon as it gets collected as a book. Thanks!
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: doctor_ocks on 05 September 2013, 04:41:23 AM
well i seem to be the only one who is looking forward to watching this, i go into a movie expecting nothing but to escape reality and have something resembling a plot....   

No I'm with you. I'll enjoy it for what it is and nothing more. I've always liked the idea of a Japanese Fantasy setting. I enjoy documentaries but I also enjoy highly stylized versions of stories as well. With that said, I understand peoples' frustration with how "loose" this adaptation appears to be. The creators of this movie had to expect that, but I'm sure they know who their target audience is and it's probably not grumpy historical gamers :P
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: Elbows on 26 September 2013, 08:43:26 AM
As a person who spent a while in the theatre world, I always enjoy the occasionally outrageous popcorn-n-soda flick where I don't have to worry about anything remotely deep in the film.

I'll also go out on a limb here and say that the long hair etc. actually fits Keanu better than his normal guise.

I'll watch this movie - likely on DVD.  I'm not casting any judgement just yet.  Keanu is not a good actor, but he's such a stone-faced blank slate sometimes, that an excellent movie can occur around him without you being distracted by his presence.  That's a rare gift.  lol
Title: Re: 47 Ronin Movie
Post by: carlos13th on 24 October 2013, 08:09:24 PM
People always do this in games and movies. Take established name and tack it onto something completely different in order to cash in on a loved name or franchise. Its a shame because it often makes people dislike the movie because it wasn't what they expected.