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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Mick_in_Switzerland on April 21, 2013, 12:29:24 PM
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Fireforge announced their next army will be Mongols with lighter cavalry in plastic and heavy cavalry in resin.
I can only find this rather poor photo.
(http://archive.4plebs.org/foolfuuka/boards//tg/image/1366/54/1366540016409.jpg)
There are a few details here
http://fireforge.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=190
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They looked very good in 3-up form. Much better than their medieval crusades stuff. Less cartoony / GW-style. Very promising I'd say, although sometimes the figures do lose something when they're shrunk down to their actual size from the 3-up...
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Fireforge announced their next army will be Mongols with lighter cavalry in plastic and heavy cavalry in resin.
Resin? That is odd.
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Pretty cool, looking forward to some better pics if they exist!
They looked very good in 3-up form. Much better than their medieval crusades stuff. Less cartoony / GW-style. Very promising I'd say, although sometimes the figures do lose something when they're shrunk down to their actual size from the 3-up...
How exactly are sculpts shrunk down to size from the 3-up? I always wondered that...
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Knew nothing of these until the Capt. mentioned them last night. Most interesting plastics for my personal tastes so far, I will keep an eye on their progress and may even dip into some non lead malarky.
Timbor, the moulds have to be cut by following the masters and it is done with a pantograph. By having larger masters it simplifies the operation immensely. It would probably be impossible to use a 28mm figure actually, especially if being done by hand, like all walks of life computers have become prominent. Having said that I once saw a couple of guys in a Chinese factory cutting moulds freehand - no master at all, just reference pictures and they were having to cut the negative image too - absolutely jaw dropping amazing.
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Very much looking forward to these. Would be ideal for fantasy as well. Especially my Lord of The RIngs.
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Very much looking forward to these. Would be ideal for fantasy as well. Especially my Lord of The RIngs.
Good point, they would make much better Easterlings than that GW rubbish, but I was thinking of using them as Nadir (from David Gemmell's Drenai tales), which is a planned future project.
Will have to keep half an eye on these fellas....
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And Dothraki. :o
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Dothraki :-* :-*
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Good point, they would make much better Easterlings than that GW rubbish, but I was thinking of using them as Nadir (from David Gemmell's Drenai tales), which is a planned future project.
Will have to keep half an eye on these fellas....
Good call! Hope they do some infantry as well then for a bit of Dros Delnoch action!
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Very interesting 8)
cheers
James
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Interesting, but why not go for Arabs to oppose their crusaders? Wouldnt that also with their Deus Vult rules and mean both sides wee affordable to build?
Plus with the new Saga, they'd have sold even more lol
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Presumably because they started with Teutonic Knights who fought the Mongols. Maybe they'll follow up with saracens in a future release.
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And when they do Arabs I'll be even happier for my Lord of The Rings collection! :D
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Interesting, but why not go for Arabs to oppose their crusaders? Wouldnt that also with their Deus Vult rules and mean both sides wee affordable to build?
Plus with the new Saga, they'd have sold even more lol
Mongolians are a logical choice. They can face any models Fireforge have already released.
After all, they showed up in the Holy Land and to fight the Teutonic Knights.
Then when Fireforge does bring out Saracens they can fight the Mongolians too. :D
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Mongolians are a logical choice. They can face any models Fireforge have already released.
After all, they showed up in the Holy Land and to fight the Teutonic Knights.
Then when Fireforge does bring out Saracens they can fight the Mongolians too. :D
exactly :)
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exactly :)
Brilliant idea, the more versatile the better.
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Let's hope we get an obese Mongol general in a cart! Then the Rus will have no chance.
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Can't wait to see pics of the sprues...these will be quite useful! :D
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I can't wait to see these, though I agree I was expecting moors/saracens etc. first.
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These look fantastic :o
- there are lots of pictures on facebook.
I cannot get a direct link to work but if you go to facebook and then go to Fireforge Games, you wil find them.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fireforge-Games/271339052885426?fref=ts
Regards
Mick
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I'd very much like to see some of the Mongols three ups etc in a close up before I pass on my opinion. From what I can see they do look pretty good.
So, who's going to to the Battle of Kalka River then??? (I'm too buisy!) :D
Darrell.
EDIT: I wrote Kakka river in my original post o_o lol
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Can't wait for these. I enjoy Mongol history but as with Fireforge's other sets it's their usefulness for fantasy gaming that excites me!
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If Fireforge made available a sprue of legs for converting the riders into foot troops, I'd be all over this – they'd be perfect for all kinds of games...
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(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Mongol-Light-Cavalry-Front.jpg)
(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Spearmen-Bodies.jpg)
(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Mongol-Components.jpg)
(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Mongol-Light-Cavalry-Rear.jpg)
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They look excellent figures. Can't wait for them to come out.
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They look excellent figures. Can't wait for them to come out.
Exactly! One of the owners (I assume) showed me a ton of pics on his laptop at the show and it was possibly the most exciting Salute advance peek for me :)
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Oh, boyhood dream of doing the battle of Dros Delnoch and Druss the Legend can finally come true! lol
Or maybe not. But at least there are some inexpensive Nadir to get my hands on later on :)
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They do look rather good don't they? :-* :-* :-*
I'll be watching for all of the horse hooves to be off the ground before they loose their respective arrows though...... nah, just kidding :D. I would prefer to see them on the smaller Steppe Ponies but hey! you can't have it all.
I think I'll be looking to buy some of these when they are released as they look to be the best Mongol miniatures out there at present IMHO 8)
Darrell.
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:-* :-* :-*
Tenaka Khan SHALLl ride forth!
:D
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:-* :-* :-*
Tenaka Khan SHALLl ride forth!
:D
lol
And the joinings, Waylander, The Witch Queen, Skilgannon and lots more...
Wait, am I really considering this?! Oh dear :(
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They looked very good in 3-up form. Much better than their medieval crusades stuff. Less cartoony / GW-style.
When I saw them I thought of your criticisms of the knight horses - bony heads etc. :) With these I thought they tried to fix that and went too far in the other direction. I'll have to take another look at mongolian-type horses, but I feel the heads are filled out too much - kind of blobby and more cartoony. And then there's the odd shoulders on one of them.
Apart from that the entire minis look pretty good, but 'that' is a fairly big deal from my POV!
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I have seen enough to say I will be buying my first box (or two) of 28mm plastics
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Shoot me if you want but I definitely wanted the Arabs to be the next release.I think it more logical that you release the armies that are in the book!
Everyone wants Arabs as they are such a varied and interesting army.They can be used for so many different theatres of war but it seems we have to wait for 2 or 3 waves of Mongols before getting a sniff of Saladins men..looks like a year or so which I feel is criminal :? :'(
That said I do think the figures look great and will obviously make many of you happy bunnies.
I'm wishing I held fire on the rules and the Crusaders as they'll have no enemy for a while yet
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lol
And the joinings, Waylander, The Witch Queen, Skilgannon and lots more...
Wait, am I really considering this?! Oh dear :(
Yes! I am there too. Digging the books out as I type (quite the multi-tasker)!
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It also seems that more of you are excited by the prospect of using the Mongols as figures in a different sphere of wargaming rather than for the ruleset they were intended..bah humbug
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Shoot me if you want but I definitely wanted the Arabs to be the next release.I think it more logical that you release the armies that are in the book!
Everyone wants Arabs as they are such a varied and interesting army.They can be used for so many different theatres of war but it seems we have to wait for 2 or 3 waves of Mongols before getting a sniff of Saladins men..looks like a year or so which I feel is criminal :? :'(
That said I do think the figures look great and will obviously make many of you happy bunnies.
I'm wishing I held fire on the rules and the Crusaders as they'll have no enemy for a while yet
I will open tonight a discussion on Fireforge's official forum (if anyone will do the same first than me) about this to explain the view of our work about the choice of mongols
We in Fireforge are always open to discuss about every question from our fans or customers :)
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Good of you to talk directly to us and I will log in and see how your choices were made.
For me the question is when will we get Arabs?..simple ;)
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Mongol 'Invasion of Japan', here I come!
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Yes! I am there too. Digging the books out as I type (quite the multi-tasker)!
Do bare in mind that they're extremely straightforward and not thaat very chocking (unless you count the late Gammels view on women). Still an alright read and I enjoyed them when I was 16.
And now since I couldn't resist the audiobooks. At the last book now :)
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Everyone wants Arabs as they are such a varied and interesting army.They can be used for so many different theatres of war but it seems we have to wait for 2 or 3 waves of Mongols before getting a sniff of Saladins men..looks like a year or so which I feel is criminal :? :'(
Of course people want Saracens, I will look forward to seeing them too.
But just look at how excited people are for these Mongolians!
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Silversixx:
Nothing wrong with a bit of Gemmell, mate.
I reread ALL of his books last year and found that I enjoyed some of them more than I remembered from the last time around.
(For some of them, that would have been 15-20 years ago and I was not that impressed at the time. Dont count the Drenai tales in that catagory, though. I have always loved them!)
:D
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We in Fireforge are always open to discuss about every question from our fans or customers :)
Horsies! :P ;)
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Do bare in mind that they're extremely straightforward and not thaat very chocking (unless you count the late Gammels view on women). Still an alright read and I enjoyed them when I was 16.
And now since I couldn't resist the audiobooks. At the last book now :)
Oh I know, I have read them before, and they are all quite formulaic. That said I love them and indeed Legend made the young me realise reading was indeed a worthy activity.
I do hope they will produce dismounted versions of the Mongols as well!
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Horsies! :P ;)
? Sorry what do you mean?
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When I saw them I thought of your criticisms of the knight horses - bony heads etc. :) With these I thought they tried to fix that and went too far in the other direction. I'll have to take another look at mongolian-type horses, but I feel the heads are filled out too much - kind of blobby and more cartoony. And then there's the odd shoulders on one of them.
Apart from that the entire minis look pretty good, but 'that' is a fairly big deal from my POV!
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Silversixx:
Nothing wrong with a bit of Gemmell, mate.
I reread ALL of his books last year and found that I enjoyed some of them more than I remembered from the last time around.
(For some of them, that would have been 15-20 years ago and I was not that impressed at the time. Dont count the Drenai tales in that catagory, though. I have always loved them!)
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To be honest Paul, I did really try to sound intellectual in the previous post. But I can't hold it anymore. I love the simple "Hero vs Bad Guy gets hot princess in the end" storytelling. I can't help myself :( It's the equivalent of Harlequin Novels, and oh my, are they good or what :D
Me want some Nadir!
And a plus one on the unmounted versions as well :) Can't scale the walls of Dros Delnoch otherwise...
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Speaking of Fireforge, got an email today that my pre-order of foot-kerniggets has shipped. ;D
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customers that did pre-order will receive the new entry first than distributors and shops :D (only who was at Salute buyed that first than each other)
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More things to buy,brilliant :o :D
I'll use them as Wainriders :)
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I kept managing to resist buying FireForge stuff but it looks like this will break me of that. I always wanted to get into this era of historical gaming anyway.
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I have a fantasy project looming in the far future...and I'm slowly cataloging all of the Fireforge stuff I'll be buying... :D
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Although this isn't the thread, the Templar infantry arrived! :-*
Some palpitations at first because the parcel was squashed down to almost half the original size, but luckily that squishy part revealed to contain only filling. lol
I like the infantry, they seem versatile, there's stuff for a command group, x-bows, loads of different helmet styles (older norman open ones, and later closed ones), you can use the hooded cloaks or not, etc.