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Miniatures Adventure => Interwar => Topic started by: joekano on 29 April 2013, 06:18:14 PM
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Hi All,
I am looking for civilian vehicles that would look ok next to my 1/56 military vehicle, and am hoping someone could offer advice. It seems most of what I have found is 1/48 or larger, which I think will dwarf everything I currently own. I know people are using some of the Yesteryear toy cars, but it seems the scales can very, so I hesitate to buy unseen. Can anyone who currently owns them comment on if any specific vehicles are at 1/56 or close to it?
Thanks!
Chris
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I have a selection of maybe 5 or 6 different Yesteryear vehicles and they all seem fine scale wise. I can post a photo of them side by side later if you want.
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Hi Just John,
If you'd be willing to photograph them next to a 1/56 vehicle, that would be much appreciated! If you could list the model as well, that would be a great help in trying to locate them on ebay.
Again, thank you for the help!
Chris
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I only use Lledo, which I buy of ebay. They have a good selection of vans and trucks, but not cars. They are not expensive, costing about £1-4 each. Sometimes you can buy a load for a good price.
here's a few pics of mine
(http://imageshack.us/a/img703/8803/dscf6088l.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img827/3928/dscf6109i.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img197/5185/dscf7659z.jpg)
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Thanks for the idea Rob - your cars are looking good!
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the idea with the racing cars is so cool :D
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Hi Chris - I'll take some photos later today. I'm not sure I have any 1/56 vehicles but I could put a Musketeer mini beside them for scale if that helps.
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That would be great - thanks!
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I have 6 different vehicles. Hope this helps.
Crossley
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UbRGIfBKisk/UYFOQJ_qxFI/AAAAAAAADcE/oVsSWAyV7Cg/s720/DSC_0020.JPG)
1909 Opel Coupe
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--EEO6uECelM/UYFOQsVZf_I/AAAAAAAADcM/Z9epvtTb6iw/s720/DSC_0021.JPG)
1914 Prince Henry Vauxhall
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g9XFxtmAroY/UYFOIRoH1FI/AAAAAAAADbo/74SzwEr2UUw/s720/DSC_0022.JPG)
1918 Crossley Tender
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ShlYiSnhq20/UYFOIKPGw3I/AAAAAAAADbs/ipLLhEHEhBo/s720/DSC_0023.JPG)
1928 Bugatti Coupe
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JiNG7fL8Yvc/UYFOIM0itsI/AAAAAAAADbk/BV5a-J5EOfU/s720/DSC_0024.JPG)
1912 Ford Model T
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CBcLilC6Grw/UYFOPEfLasI/AAAAAAAADb8/iMbRYWtBw24/s720/DSC_0025.JPG)
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what make are those cars?
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Oh yes that would help wouldn't it! They are all Matchbox/Yesteryear.
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This is really helpful John! Thanks!
Based on what I can find online, the scale for each car is as follows:
Crossley 1/47
Opel 1/38
Vauxhall 1/47
Bugatti 1/38
Ford 1/35
It looks like the 1/47 kits or smaller might work, but I think the larger ones will dwarf my armoured car. I'll have to start trolling Ebay for some options then. I'll post what I get here for others' reference.
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Those Crossleys are the best vehicles you can get for this period. I have dozens myself, have bought dozens for the guys at the club, and they go really well with all of our figures. They can be cheap as chips on ebay if you're prepared to be patient. I have seen idiots bidding them up and up, but have seldom paid more than 99p for one myself.
They convert easily, they are perfect for ICW, VBCW, can be used for other periods too. They can be military or civilian,
Other than those, but much more expensive, are the Rio Fiat trucks. fabulous detail, and great to own, but if you want just lots of vehicles which are spot on, go for the Yesteryear Crossleys every time.
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I'd second the recommendation of the Matchbox Crossleys - I picked up a job-lot of the RAF version (as Just John has on his pictures) with tilts for the rear as well for not a lot at a local toy fair. With an "army green" paintjob they're now the standard ride for all my Bristol TA units.
I've also got a file box full of assorted Lledo vans and trucks - I think they're nearer 1/64, but they work for me.
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Thanks Everyone,
I've decided to start with a 1931 Morris Courier from Matchbox, which is supposed to be 1/59 scale. I'll post some photos when it arrives.
I've also got a file box full of assorted Lledo vans and trucks - I think they're nearer 1/64, but they work for me.
Does anyone know if there is an online listing of the Lledo cars with approximate scales? I've found a site for Matchbox http://www.matchbox.3kom.ru/index_e.htm (http://www.matchbox.3kom.ru/index_e.htm), but am struggling with Lledo.
Chris
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This link should help you out chap-
http://veiculosemminiatura.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/escala-de-modelos-matchbox-serie-models.html?m=1
I personally find Lledo vehicles to small. The thing to remember the vehicles back then were huge, if you ever see a vintage vehicle go and stand next to it... :)
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In my experience, the Lledo ones look roughly 1/50 scale, while the Matchbox ones are more around 1/60.
These are the Lledo ones (don't have pics of the matchbox ones, but I got those to go with a true 25mm ~1/60 scale project):
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/SP_A1059.jpg)
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/buy07195.jpg)
And the plastic figures that come with some of them might give an indication of scale too:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/buy07196.jpg)
Also, as a general rule, vans and small trucks will always be smaller than cars within the same brand due to the fit-in-the-box scale, so Lledo vans will likely be closer to 1/55-1/60. Demonstrated here (back row):
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/SP_A1057.jpg)
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Like those Lledo ones a lot!
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Well, I made some test purchases based on all your help, and here's what I ended up with.
First up, here is my resin Lanchester Armoured Car for Comparison:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YH0-9t9Ylso/UYiG_8KyujI/AAAAAAAAAdM/KMZxfXOH1nE/w863-h647/IMG_3554.jpg)
Matchbox Y31-B 1931 Morris Courier:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-stUCr4oaj1c/UYiHKPYndsI/AAAAAAAAAeI/_CnlpShGl9w/w863-h647/IMG_3558.jpg)
Lledo DG 020 Ford A Stake Truck:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MULS2T1apPY/UYiHFPUL7CI/AAAAAAAAAdU/7vFMZN44Qy8/w863-h647/IMG_3555.jpg)
Overall I think they look good. If you want to see how these look compared to real life photos, you can find additional info on the blog:
http://majorthomasfoolery.blogspot.com/2013/05/diecast-vehicles-for-vbcw.html (http://majorthomasfoolery.blogspot.com/2013/05/diecast-vehicles-for-vbcw.html)
Thanks for the help everyone!
Chris
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Many thanks for the scale photos, very useful.
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Two more vans
Lledo DG 034 1932 Dennis Delivery Van
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o7okxhctSnE/UZRipz0T5UI/AAAAAAAAAjE/emY9C3T2724/w919-h689-no/IMG_3569.jpg)
Lledo DG 016 1934 Dennis Parcels Van
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1X1kPsxsCLk/UZRip6QoMvI/AAAAAAAAAjY/QYu6a7Dhvqs/w919-h689-no/IMG_3570.jpg)
http://majorthomasfoolery.blogspot.com/2013/05/diecast-vehicles-for-vbcw-part-ii.html (http://majorthomasfoolery.blogspot.com/2013/05/diecast-vehicles-for-vbcw-part-ii.html)
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A few more:
Lledo DG 043 1931 Morris Van
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eFoGIv9xIws/UZcPHHhVy6I/AAAAAAAAAlE/Nhph_YGC9Ss/s1600/diecast+002.jpg)
Lledo DG 013 1934 Model A Van
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Vr-GqxxofDQ/UZcPNBrmq5I/AAAAAAAAAlM/7PAUHsNoAPQ/s1600/diecast+003.jpg)
http://majorthomasfoolery.blogspot.com/2013/05/diecast-vehicles-for-vbcw-part-iii.html (http://majorthomasfoolery.blogspot.com/2013/05/diecast-vehicles-for-vbcw-part-iii.html)
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Some more vehicles:
Lledo DG 029 1931 Rolls-Royce Phantom II
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-H_aPmoy5ueQ/Ua1u_qpxoRI/AAAAAAAAAoY/DsiwKjt9IMU/s1600/IMG_3649.jpg)
Lledo DG 025 1925 Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost Tourer
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4tnWsF7yJkw/Ua1vNem-WZI/AAAAAAAAAog/PRA3xdjJgpA/s1600/IMG_3650.jpg)
http://majorthomasfoolery.blogspot.com/2013/06/diecast-vehicles-for-vbcw-part-iv.html (http://majorthomasfoolery.blogspot.com/2013/06/diecast-vehicles-for-vbcw-part-iv.html)
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That Rolls-Royce looks especially fine :-*
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Another Lledo car:
1936 Packard Ambulance
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JbyW5lAdu-s/UcdSnekG8mI/AAAAAAAAAqI/rFLVt_AkoIA/s1600/IMG_3709.jpg)