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Title: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: JediNinja on 06 May 2013, 12:17:07 AM
Not sure where I should post this, so I apologize beforehand.   :?  I'm looking at running a pulp era type role playing game and need to use props.  It'll take place between WWI and WWII.  There will be airfields, dirigibles, mad scientists, etc.  So with that being said, should I buy 1/48 scale biplanes for the 25mm or so sized figures I plan on using?  All help and suggestions appreciated.   :)
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 06 May 2013, 12:27:05 AM
Yes :D

Unless you're planes will only be flying in which case, use a smaller scale as the variety tends to be better.
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Dolmot on 06 May 2013, 12:43:37 AM
I've been investigating this as well. Here are a few links to discussions I found...

1/48 scale planes (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=3266.0)
28mm (1/55th- 1/56th scale airplanes) (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=3721.0)
WWI-Planes in 28mm (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=5020.0)
Model planes and other vehicles for 28mm (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=7820.0)
WW1 planes (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=19753.0)
Suitable planes? (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=19941.0)

Unfortunately, what I found out after browsing TMP as well is that:

- 1/48 would be good.
- Smer is cheap but their range consists of military planes with an odd prototype thrown in.
- The best fitting option for civilian planes is a company making coin banks with different brandings, and they've all become "collectables" with silly prices. >:(

So if there's a plane which is 1/48, a civilian model for pulp golden era (20s-30s) and easily (cheaply) available, I'd like to know about it as well. Even after reading the listed topics. :? Drop just one condition and you already have choice. This even baffled two reputable and well informed scale model shop owners.
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Blackwolf on 06 May 2013, 01:15:09 AM
1/48 is the way to go( there's one in my current LPL round).
  For ease of construction Lindbergh,Smer or if you can find one,old Hawk models are the way to go.Visit my blog there are one or two examples :)
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Johnnytodd on 06 May 2013, 01:16:00 AM
I'm perhaps the only LAF member who insists that 1/48 aircraft are TOO BIG fo 28mm.  So I make my own airplanes in 1/56 scale - because very few airplane models exist in that scale. However, unless you're willing to scratchbuild your own, you are bound to the 1/48 or 1/72 choice.  There are some interesting (& accurate) paper models being produced now - possibly these could be easily resized into the scale of your choice, then printed, then assembled?
John
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Blackwolf on 06 May 2013, 01:20:11 AM
Oh and if you want some kits though go together really well,though a little pricey check Finemolds il porco rosso  series of 'planes,lovely :D I have all of them ;)
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: doowopapocalypse on 06 May 2013, 01:27:35 AM
Another option
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-Wing-Diecast-Military-Biplane-Model-Pullback-Action-Spin-Prop-Camo-NEW-/180975183667

Based mostly off the Martin Kitten. Mind you, it'll need some tlc.
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Vanvlak on 06 May 2013, 05:34:02 AM
Is the old Airfix Hawker Fury 1/48 scale kit still available?
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: pocoloco on 06 May 2013, 06:10:16 AM
Also check ebay for Testors 1/48 planes... good stuff (cheap, builds easy etc)
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Wirelizard on 06 May 2013, 07:24:14 AM
Testors has a line of 1/48 easy-build cheap kits ($9 or so) that includes several useful for WW1 or pulp-era gaming.

I've painted up a SPAD XIII and a Nieuport for my Russian Civil War forces. I wrote both builds up on the blog; the SPAD starts here (http://www.warbard.ca/2012/02/21/a-spad-for-the-whites/) and the Nieuport build begins here (http://www.warbard.ca/2012/04/21/a-red-nieuport-part-one/).
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Michi on 06 May 2013, 07:36:10 AM
Grumman J2F-1 "Duck", amphibious bi-plane, capable of landing and taking off from land and water alike (perfect for any pulp scenario, I thought) and for the interwar period you have in mind. Plus it is a two-seater with passenger/cargo compartment:

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1025-2.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1026-2.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1027-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1028-2.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1029.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: JediNinja on 06 May 2013, 05:05:32 PM
Wow!  Thanks everyone for your guidance.  I purchased a Fokker Dr.1 kit on the cheap (it was a "going out of business" sale).  Now the super big question is, what crazy color scheme should I use on it?  Lime green with yellow stripes? Classical red?  Purple and white checks? Decisions, decisions....  :)

Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: FramFramson on 06 May 2013, 11:38:04 PM
Purple and white checks?

Now THAT sounds different.

Of course a truly outlandish scheme would be something like Burberry plaid, or neon paisley, or something extra goofy like that.
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Amalric on 07 May 2013, 12:03:11 AM
Well the Triplanes color scheme should reflect the personality of the pilot
Good guy/ hero?
Enemy ace?
Fem fatal?
Young and enthesiatic or old WWI vet?

Regardless I look forward to seeing it in action.


Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: mysteriousbill on 07 May 2013, 03:28:29 PM
The airplane banks are not all 1/48. Here is some links to my blog dealing with the airplane banks I found that were of usable size.

http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/2/post/2011/05/stop-buying-airplanes-bill.html

http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/2/post/2011/03/lockheed-air-express.html

(I ended up selling this one at a loss because I had so many planes and didn't want to take the time to strip and paint it)

http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/2/post/2010/08/airplane-models-suitable-for-2528mm-gaming.html
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: JediNinja on 16 May 2013, 02:55:25 PM
Well, here is my first attempt at a Pulp Post WWI tri-plane:

 (http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w561/JediNinja1/DSCN1155_zps9e8db5ba.jpg)

And a different angle:

(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w561/JediNinja1/DSCN1152_zps1da369b0.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Amalric on 16 May 2013, 03:31:55 PM
Very very nice

Very Enemy Ace
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Constable Bertrand on 16 May 2013, 09:44:42 PM
 :o She is a crisp looking beauty. Very nice.

Is there much weathering on her? I'd imagine all sorts of scars and stains having survived WwI and still in the same paint scheme.
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: JediNinja on 16 May 2013, 10:41:27 PM
:o She is a crisp looking beauty. Very nice.

Is there much weathering on her? I'd imagine all sorts of scars and stains having survived WwI and still in the same paint scheme.

That is such a good question and one I have been agonizing over.  On one hand, I wanted to give her some age and weathering for my upcoming pulp games.  On the other hand, since it is a pulp game, I wanted to try to touch that "glitzy" side of things.  I think I'll play it that the owner of said plane was a WWI vet and he's restoring her to her magical charm while living in Egypt.  His other plane crashed due to mechanical failure (no self respecting pilot would admit to being shot down by an inferior muggle)  ;)  But I may certainly change my mind on weathering her.
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Amalric on 17 May 2013, 12:26:33 AM
Well the wartime dri's were horribly weathered with streaks and smears clearly visible in period pics.

But as this is for presumably post war pulp, I would let the finish indicate something about the pilots personality.

Is he a bad guy on the run, weather it heavily.
Is he a POSH type doing good for God and kingdom, then it'll be maintained in spiffy like new condition.

Either way it looks great.
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: JediNinja on 17 May 2013, 03:55:40 PM
Thanks for your support Amalric and Constable Bertrand!  I'll throw some other planes together and try weathering them.  Truth be told, I'm a little gunshy b/c I'm overwhelmed by all the talent on the LAF.
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: Constable Bertrand on 17 May 2013, 11:21:22 PM
As long as there is background fluff you can do what you want ;) She looks very fancy!  :-*

I just thought she needed weathering after surviving a war and still being painted in her wartime scheme. But if the lovely German ace is maintaining her out of his excess, then why not :)

You could try heavy weathered wwI PJ's, new post war Colours, and unholy combinations of both as the wretched bird as assembled of various cheap parts.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: 1/48 scale biplanes?
Post by: JediNinja on 18 May 2013, 05:24:03 PM

You could try heavy weathered wwI PJ's, new post war Colours, and unholy combinations of both as the wretched bird as assembled of various cheap parts.

Cheers
Matt

Funny you should say that b/c I plan on doing that very same thing in the future.   :)  Here is another bird I did from a poorly molded model.  In my pulp game, Egypt and India are the new emerging super powers as Europe, the USA and the CSA are shattered.  Egypt is now headed by the God-Pharaoh (a very mysterious figure).  Egypt is experiencing a strange new technological renaissance far ahead of shattered Europe.  When India threatened Egypt over Madagascar in 1923, Egypt annihilated India's biplane armada with the Pharaoh's P-1 "Prowler's."  I tried to give it a glitzy-Egyptian feel with the blue and gold.  Strategically wise color scheme?  no.  Fun to paint?  Darn tootin!   lol

(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w561/JediNinja1/DSCN1158_zps8d35547b.jpg)

And another angle (don't look too closely, this is a throw away model)

(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w561/JediNinja1/DSCN1157_zps263671e0.jpg)