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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: Ray Rivers on May 07, 2013, 07:07:15 PM
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The "All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter" has gone live and reached it's initial funding goal of $50,000.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1117201778/all-quiet-on-the-martian-front-miniature-tanks-vs
I signed up early for this one and got the Human Hunter. Tripods Baby! :)
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Me too with the Human Hunter :D
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Noooooooooo!
I'm ruined, I resisted a plethora of Kickstarters following Zombicide 2, and now this happens.
Could never resist tripods. I went for the more modest Pod Leader.
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Got a confirmation from Kickstarter for my pledge inside the US. Ooops!
So I went into "manage your account", confirmed I had selected the correct level for outside the US and then added in the shipping costs to my pledge amount.
Another confirmation email, which again states "inside the US." I tried to edit that, but it wouldn't take.
And so starts the confusion... o_o
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Would go for it if there was a Martian only pledge - I really dislike the human vehicles.
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NO! Not another period, scale, ruleset etc etc must resist...................
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I've got a martian pod early bird, but not really sure if I'll hold on to it as I think its a little expensive for 15mm. See what happens throughout the campaign and then decide, I think.
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Yep, they do seem a bit on the pricy side and I was checking out their web site quite thoroughly before committing.
I decided to go for it because I believe the SIZE of the vehicles warrant the price:
(http://www.martianfront.com/sites/default/files/gallery_images/mARTIAN%20tRIPOD%20sIZES.jpg)
The tripods come out at 4 to 5 inches in height.
Even the US tanks are quite large.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/573/502/5937644549ee8645bc6decb0760fd1a3_large.jpg?1367961905)
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Even the US tanks are quite large.
Large is probably the most generous description I would give them.
That flame tank is just absurd.
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Large is probably the most generous description I would give them.
That flame tank is just absurd.
Pretty wonky, isn't it! lol
Personally I like the Mark III and Mark IV Monitor and will probably/eventually pledge for them to even out my forces.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/572/506/39b03ab28752b243871e7afa8deffdf9_large.jpg?1367940541)
Early days though, I want to see if they have anything else up the sleeves.
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So... looks like these will work for 28mm. :o
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/578/103/b1fd90b556e4291f1b9f8ec3a009c8d0_large.jpg?1368114101)
The Assault tripod is 6 inches tall, the Dominator - 7 inches and the Overseer - 9 inches, or there abouts.
I do like that Mark IV Monitor tank though, but I'm afraid of throwing more money at them sight on-seen.
Seems a major hurdle right now for the developer is finding a UK stockist.
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I think it looks completely fantastic!
Very very very very tempted-
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Personally I can't stand the human designs.
Far too clunky, and not original enough.
That and the fact that they are all supposed to be running on coal-powered steam, despite the USA having a historic lead on vehicles.
Why use the GW-looking "Mark IV male with extra big guns randomly added"? The Baldwin III don't look feasible - unless they don't carry any ammunition for the guns? I'm probably just picky because I've seen how cramped the interior of the Mk IV is (at Bovington).
And if you're going for a SPG design why not use the Mark I gun carrier rather than sticking a howitzer on the roof of a Mk IV like a Basilisk? The Mk I gun carrier is also a design that might not be familiar to non-historical gamers and looks more practical.
Why opt for steam power in 1914? Given that there were gasoline-powered caterpillar vehicles (Holt) by 1905 (developed in California and used as a basis for the first British tracked vehicles).
The background says this second invasion begins at the end of 1908, a few months after Model Ts started to come off the Michigan lines.
America already had armoured cars, although only fitted with bullet-proof shields, in 1901, the Davidson from Illinois.
Since both Model Ts and Davidsons are petrol-driven it seems illogical to propose coal-power as a superior alternative.
Even the Belgians had armoured cars by 1912 (the Minerva) although the Belgian army in 1914 still had machine-guns on carts pulled by dogs.
For steam power I would have preferred some variant of armoured train, perhaps like HG Wells Land Ironclads (1903) - a 100 foot long vehicle.
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But I have backed it anyway (despite the rant).
Like the cylinder though.
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Seems Northstar will be handling UK distribution.
Should make folks happy!
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Since I really only care about the tripods, could one just pledge a $1 and then buy the various adds on that are there? I know you don't get the full reaping of a Kickstarter(the free unlocks, etc.) but I seriously have no want for any the human stuff and the only level that I half want is in the $200 range. I know once I get it I could sell the human stuff off, but what if no one else wants it?
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mingans,
I faced the same dilemma but I only wanted the human stuff....I really like the tanks, and think I could use them in other systems fighting 15mm Quar.
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Since I really only care about the tripods, could one just pledge a $1 and then buy the various adds on that are there?
Don't see why not.
At the very bottom of the KS page there is an explanation of shipping charges based on, what I can see, as folks doing just that.
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Since I really only care about the tripods, could one just pledge a $1 and then buy the various adds on that are there?
I asked this question for you the KS comments page and the company rep said that yes, you only need to make a $1 pledge and then you can buy any of the add ons you want.
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Yikes! :o
They've just revamped the stretch goal freebies, separating them into three categories: "Everybody wins", "Army levels" (which includes the 'Everybody wins" stuff) and "War of the Worlds levels" (which also includes the"Army levels" and 'Everybody wins" stuff). o_o
I've revised what I was planning to buy two times already and now I'm going to have to do it again. ;D
They've also revealed some new things in the stretch goals such as Command stands and a Martian Power node.
Gotta admit this is a hard sell, getting folks to commit to buying entire armies... but they do seem to be trying their hardest.
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Yes I have changed my pledge a couple of times. Excited about this one :D
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Hmm. Might be tempted to go for those tripods to use with 28mm. They are fairly large and relatively scale neutral.
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Hmm. Might be tempted to go for those tripods to use with 28mm. They are fairly large and relatively scale neutral.
That is what got my attention.
The scouts are still fairly expensive. One of the goals of the KS was to get enough money to be able to do them in plastic and reduce the price. My guess is that it is a matter of volume.
And it appears I was incorrect about a UK distributor, they are still looking for one. This point seems quite important for further progress. Hopefully they will have a breakthrough on this soon.
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I'm thinking of pulling out of the KS as I don't want to risk the customs charges I will get lumbered with. :(
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They'll find one.
It's almost certain that the Brits are major players in this KS.
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I hope they do and I may look at it again then but as I company I would have thought they should have sorted this out before the Kickstarter o_o Unless they expect most of the money to come from the US.
I haven't funded a KS before so don't want to get burnt on my first one :(
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It's a small company trying to establish itself.
The kinda people KS is meant to help.
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Just upgraded to Full Assault!
The amount of free stuff was just too hard to ignore...
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On further looking at the miniatures I am really only interested in the Tripods, the human stuff doesn't do it for me. Now if they did 28mm scale tripods.
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Go here:
http://www.amazon.com/Pegasus-Hobbies-War-Worlds-Tripod/dp/B004YZCIZW
;)
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Over the 125K Stretch Goal. :)
Here's what I pledged for... Full Assault.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/583/823/4c8e6040a7355914d7cf5f8f7c92dc77_large.jpg?1368329757)
Add to that:
Pre-Kickstarter sign-up:
3 Martian Drones
Assault Tripod
And the 125K stretch goal freebies:
Clamp Tank
Tender Tank
Tesla Lightening Gun
3 Hover Drones
2 Grenadier Tripods
Hard bound rule set
And I think I've got my money's worth. :D
Now... on to 150K and:
Mine Layer tank
3 Field Guns
General Patton's Monitor ;D
3 Hover Drones
Scout tripod with targeter
"The Red Martian" ???
Good Lord.... o_o
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Does sound good when you put it like that. Just not keen on the human troopers, maybe its a 15mm thing.
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Looks interesting but even more confusing than the Dredd KS lol
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Here is the game play video they put together today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWHsrM6Tm0M&feature=youtu.be
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Looks interesting but even more confusing than the Dredd KS lol
This will make things easier to understand:
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/535436/posts/481778/image-257603-full.jpg?1368636066)
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With all the extra add ons it would be hard to choose what to get :o Will you go for the kickstarter exclusive stuff?
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With all the extra add ons it would be hard to choose what to get :o Will you go for the kickstarter exclusive stuff?
Indeed... what to choose?
Almost certain that I will be picking up at least 'some' of the exclusive stuff. Will wait to the very end to decide what.
Of course as an older guy, swinging mood swings could see me go crazy and buy it all... lol
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I'm still on the fence as am worried about custom charges but the free stuff should make up for it. I want mostly martians so they do have some good options. I am hoping that the BEF will be released in the KS as that could make me throw money at it :D As its 15mm I suppose there are quite a few makers of ww1 stuff that could be used.
I watched the video and thought the game play sounds good :D
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Thanks Ray
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I haven't funded a KS before so don't want to get burnt on my first one :(
I can understand that, as to be quite honest, my first KS didn't quite turn out the way I thought it would. Folks promise an awefull lot and then it takes ages for them to deliver.
In this case, it appears to me that the miniatures have been made and you can see exactly how they look. That of course doesn't mean that they could encounter production delays, but it means pretty much that the basic stuff is ready to go. No concept art stuff here or drawings...
The real question you must ask yourself is whether you really can't wait to get these minis in your hands or is it just something that seems cool to you but are unsure. If you are at all unsure then either go for a very basic, low cost option or walk away. Don't get sucked in by the hype of these projects. You have to look at them with a cool head and really decide whether you like the product or not for yourself.
Yesterday they released a new video on special units. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6br8_ow8S8o&feature=youtu.be
I really like that Mark IV tank. I'm hoping that Patton's Monitor is basically the same model and will get it as an unlock. Perhaps when they break the 150K level we will see the Patton Monitor and the Red Martian... the first of the game's "character" models.
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Thanks for the advice, I shall see how it goes. I do love the idea though.
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I really wanted to get in on this one, but I want the Martians only. They've put it out of my price range to get them. I know, I know who cares about price. My husband does :D
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I really wanted to get in on this one, but I want the Martians only. They've put it out of my price range to get them. I know, I know who cares about price. My husband does :D
You could just pledge $1 and buy the martians as add ons :D
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I think the problem that they are having is that at this point a lot of the miniatures are resin and what they want to do is to raise enough money to be able to make them in plastic and thus reduce the cost. I think they require a certain amount of pledges to be able to be sure they have the money to go plastic, and they are not there yet.
They have also stated that they are closing in on a deal with a UK distributor. This is very important, IMO, and when they can get this deal finalized, I believe you will see the number of folks pledging jump.
Personally, I think it was always going to be difficult to try to sell a complete 15mm battle game no matter what you offered, so +1 to them for guts. They also have had a number of folks hammering on them in the comments and this set them back on their heals. Don't think they expected a hostile crowd. They are trying hard, possibly a bit too hard, to please and having been taken by surprise on a number of fronts, you can see their inexperience in marketing their product.
These are the kind of folks I think KS was designed for, but with a number of professional miniatures companies fuxing things up, people have become a bit bitter and skeptical... and they are suffering for it.
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I really wanted to get in on this one, but I want the Martians only. They've put it out of my price range to get them. I know, I know who cares about price. My husband does :D
The more I see of the human "designs" the less impressed I get.
The latest one is Patton's Mk IV. 8 x 4" guns and a 10".
Who designed this monstrosity? Have they never seen ammunition?
The only 4" shells I have handled are about 2 feet long and weighty even when empty. The Sturmtiger only carried 14 shells, the Sturmpanzer IV only carried 38, and they weren't coal-powered.
It reduces things from VSF to VF, or probably just F.
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It is a sci fi setting with martians so not really sure why any sort reality to ammunition size is relevant? Quite a few people where getting hung up on historical accuracy on the kickstarter comments, why I don't know as its fiction and not trying to recreate ww1. There are plenty of other rule sets for historical gaming and I think its best to look at it as a totally science fiction game.
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In a Q&A today they said that Alan Marsh (AB guy for Eureka) did the sculpting on the infantry.
A couple photos:
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/535436/posts/484674/image-259370-full.jpg?1368888346)
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/535436/posts/484674/image-259371-full.jpg?1368888353)
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Looks much better now you can see close ups :D
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It is a sci fi setting with martians so not really sure why any sort reality to ammunition size is relevant? Quite a few people where getting hung up on historical accuracy on the kickstarter comments, why I don't know as its fiction and not trying to recreate ww1. There are plenty of other rule sets for historical gaming and I think its best to look at it as a totally science fiction game.
I'm not bothered about historical accuracy.
But I prefer vehicles that look as though they might physically be possible.
The setting for this pre-dates WWI (Martian invasion 1908?), so I'm a little dissapointed that the only vehicle designs look like steam-powered Landraiders, Lehman Russ, or Basilisks. I had hoped for a bit more originality. As to the ammunition question, there is a vehicle with an ammo trailer, and the Patton has a rule for running out of ammo, but it looks unlikely to run out unless you opt for rapid fire from the 8x4" guns. The 10" gun won't run out of ammo. I'm old enough to know how big a 4" shell is, and the vehicle just looks silly. More like the tank design from "Wacky Races".
For SF gaming I tend to go with Hammers Slammers - the Blower tank is a reasonable looking clean design.
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If you don't like them, don't buy them. Nobody is forcing you.
But please don't turn this into a "I hate this" kinda thread... it's really not in the LAF spirit.
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No worries Ray, I apologise for being negative.
I'm actually in on the KS at Invasion level, but would just prefer it if there was an invasion level that didn't include the Baldwins. There are a few others that have expressed preferences - Quendil, OLeary etc.
I suppose I'm half-way hoping that someone will say they really like the Baldwins and offer to split the set.
I don't "hate" them, but I prefer designers who put more care into their designs.
The same applies to lots of companies - not just figures but films etc.
I suppose it's like the disappointment that you get when you see the German tank attack led by Chaffees and you think "couldn't they put in a bit more effort?".
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Well, the Baldwin II is hard to love... lol
But I kinda like the III and IV.
I know a lot of the kit isn't very rational, but being a VSF nut, I can usually come up with an irrationally rational reason to accept them. :D
Surprised a Brit company didn't do something along these lines before, to be quite honest. They are suitably eccentric to come up with all kinds of weird and wonderful machines.
Good to hear you have pledged, though I do believe a purely Martian pledge level would get a lot of love. We'll see what happens, I must say the AD folks seem to be fairly flexible and the "all Martian option" has been mentioned a number of times in the comments.
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AD folks seem to be fairly flexible and the "all Martian option" has been mentioned a number of times in the comments.
I mentioned it a couple of times today in the open talk session (whatever it's called)
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Good to hear you have pledged, though I do believe a purely Martian pledge level would get a lot of love. We'll see what happens, I must say the AD folks seem to be fairly flexible and the "all Martian option" has been mentioned a number of times in the comments.
I could be tempted by that.
I have no use for 15mm scale humans, though, and that has been what has made me turn my back on this.
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I know a lot of the kit isn't very rational, but being a VSF nut, I can usually come up with an irrationally rational reason to accept them. :D
Surprised a Brit company didn't do something along these lines before, to be quite honest. They are suitably eccentric to come up with all kinds of weird and wonderful machines.
Actually, I had rather hoped to see something like the 1998 video game of Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds. If you are not familiar with the game, it's based on a second attack by Martians, but this time landing in Scotland. Limited number of human units, although you can research more as the game progresses, and vehicles tend to be lightly armoured lorries armed with QF pom-poms rather than armoured behemoths to start with. Martians are virtually unstoppable (other than with huge numbers and heavy losses) but resources play a big role and human losses can be replaced faster than Martian ones. Probably my favourite game on the PC.
Plus it has Jeff Wayne's music, and if you play as the humans you get reports from someone who sounds like Sir Nigel Hawthorne...
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Thinking of Jeff Wayne, if AD wanted to expand their client base they might consider the possibilities if putting out kits to support the "JW WotW live on stage" tours - the merchandise is fairly bland, mostly t-shirts, mugs, posters and badges. The last time we saw it live the audience was mostly the sort of middle-aged folk who would probably be more at home in cardigans than t-shirts, but chatting with a few of the crowd in the interval, there were quite a few gamers/modelmakers.
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Actually, I had rather hoped to see something like the 1998 video game of Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds.
I had that game, and probably still do... somewhere. :-*
It was an excellent game but somehow I could never make it work well on my PC. :'(
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Bit of a nail biter!
Free stuff if we hit 150K today by 1200 midnight tonight EST.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/602/048/a8cfec1aec7f440b8f868e658adc418e_large.jpg?1368925512)
Almost 146k at time of posting...
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For those of you not interested in the human forces, I'm sure sales and swaps made amongst ourselves is always an option.
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This has just come through
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/535436/posts/485345/image-259773-full.jpg?1368978990)
Looks great :-*
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That would be an awesome addition!
o_o :o :-*
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I am hoping that they will release the BEF as add ons and that you will be able to buy them after the kickstarter ends. I have pledged for the Martian Overseer and was hoping to eventually add the BEF to the American forces that come with that pledge to make a force to fight the Martians.
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I am hoping that they will release the BEF
I would be interested in seeing their plans for the BEF.
Not wanting to be negative, but that mg monowheel is a 1930s US design.
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I had that game, and probably still do... somewhere. :-*
It was an excellent game but somehow I could never make it work well on my PC. :'(
We occasionally had problems but it seems to be ok on the new pc (the new pc is about 9 years old - old enough that most of the letters have rubbed off the keyboard, so we don't have "qwerty" we have q----yu--p, second row is just gjk.
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Over the 150K pledge goal!
o_o
Here's hoping for some more surprises... :P
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BEF I Hope
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Landclad or Tripod anyone?
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/603/798/5048a90b19d57fde039e67b3713d2896_large.jpg?1369009112)
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/603/800/1ec24f20f571b2d6128a589843847ef1_large.jpg?1369009144)
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That Martian Overseer is amazing and may change my pledge completely.
What do folks think of the price point?
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Its looks too cheap :o Not sure how they are going to make it. Maybe I have just been brainwashed with how expensive Forgeworld resin its.
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Not sure on the big chap - at 10 inches tall those legs are going to take a lot of strain.
Not sure on the ironclad either, the blurb mentions fore and aft turrets plus 2 guns midships, but the concept art doesn't tie in.
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Have no idea how they will actually come out, though they did mention resin and metal.
The Overseer, at 10 inches, will however, be playable with 28mm models. Include the Dominator at 9 inches and you could have a reasonable 2 x Dominator (2 x $35) and 1 x Overseer (1 x $55) WotWs Martian VSF force for $125 or around 82GBP.
Either way, I'm working my pledge such that I will be able to play the game as published, but with an eye towards having a cross over Martian tripods force for my VSF collection.
Mind you, if the Martians get too irresistible, I'll just go with a straight VSF Martian tripod buy.
I still have no idea what I'm going to get, to be quite honest.... o_o
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Mind you, if the Martians get too irresistible, I'll just go with a straight VSF Martian tripod buy.
I am obviously being a bit of a numptie here, but how can you do a 'straight VSF Martian tripod buy'?
I could go for that.
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I am obviously being a bit of a numptie here, but how can you do a 'straight VSF Martian tripod buy'?
I could go for that.
Go for the $1 pledge and then add extra on top of that for whatever tripods you want. There is currently a choice os Assault, Scout, Grenadier, Dominator, Harvester, Red Martian and Overseer Tripods
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Go for the $1 pledge and then add extra on top of that for whatever tripods you want. There is currently a choice os Assault, Scout, Grenadier, Dominator, Harvester, Red Martian and Overseer Tripods
Cheers!
I was looking at all the pledge levels and did not think of that.....DOH!
::)
Lets go and have a butchers then, shall we?
:D
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I am pledging at the Overseer level as I want mostly martians but can't resist all the free stuff. I will probably get some other 15mm ww1 stuff to use as well later in the year. Thinking Anzacs.
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Anzacs?
Any vehicle designs in mind?
Otherwise they're a bit low-tech.
We kitbashed a few armoured lorries for 1919 Spartakists & Freikorps using Zvezda trucks as a (relatively cheap) skeleton to build on.
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Wouldn't have to be low tech, as after the first martian invasion the British had access to the martian tech and would have engineered new weapons which their close allies would use.
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From what I am reading in the comments section of the KS page, it seems that they are getting very close to making a deal with a "well respected" distributer in the UK.
:)
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Wouldn't have to be low tech, as after the first martian invasion the British had access to the martian tech and would have engineered new weapons which their close allies would use.
The Anzacs aren't allies - they're dominions :~}
I always think of them as being very... rural?
NZ is grassy with lots of sheep, not much industry, Australian states are mostly a barren wilderness with grassy patches, and again not much industry (looking from a 1900-1910 perspective). The low-tech was as much in reference to the infrastructure as anything. Historically, I'm not sure if the Anzacs actually supplied much heavy equipment - although that may be down to image (stereotypical infantry in slouch hat and light cavalry, with a disdain for officers and all things mechanical).
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Although I would envisage the Anzacs as being quite good at devising obstacles to hinder/disable Martians.
Thinking on the lines of something low tech, trip wires perhaps. They have to contend with kangaroos (and large herds of camels) and have been looking at fences for a long time, so it seems a logical progression.
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Very cool addition to the KS:
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/605/519/0b43a87d84f0d6c4361836b54b55d846_large.jpg?1369069930)
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As somebody who pledged at Invasion level, that's pretty neat!
Say, does anybody know where you can get those cool little trucks and wagons in the pictures?
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I would imagine HO scale cars and trucks:
http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/jor/jor241.htm
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UK Distributor now available:
We are very pleased to announce that Renedra, the renowned manufacturer and retailer of plastic miniatures and accessories, has agreed to act as our European Union distributor for the All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter only. We could not be happier with this outcome since Architects of War, our sister company, is the Exclusive North American distributor for Renedra.
What does this mean for you if you live in the UK or EU? There will be no increase in the flat rate shipping charge! You will receive the shipment of your pledge, freebies and any add-on goodies by paying the previously stated flat rate shipping, no additional charges.
So, we have 3 different categories that you can fall into…
**US – Free shipping
**UK and EU – Flat rate shipping stated in the pledge levels or shipping policy for Add-ons. No Vat or other import duties will be charged to you.
**Everybody Else – Flat rate shipping stated in the pledge levels or shipping policy for Add-ons. You will be responsible for any duty or taxes charged at the time of delivery, if applicable.
Please let us know if you have any questions. Thank you all for being so patient while we hammered out the details!
Barb
:)
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Broke $175K pledge level.
It appears, from what I can tell, is that what they are really hoping for is to make $250K. This would allow them to do a lot more stuff in plastic and bring the price down.
They are at 180K with 8 days to go.
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Sadly disappointed by the BEF designs.
Armoured cars that look like 1920s Crossleys, the 1930s US monowheel, and then some tanks that look like reminiscent of the 1944 Tortoise project.
They just don't really look very Edwardian.
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Sadly disappointed by the BEF designs.
Armoured cars that look like 1920s Crossleys, the 1930s US monowheel, and then some tanks that look like reminiscent of the 1944 Tortoise project.
They just don't really look very Edwardian.
Not that I disagree with your analysis, but what would be more Edwardian in appearance? I have not a clue (my story is I am a colonial and I am sticking to that that...) about what they might look like...
Gracias,
Glenn
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Not that I disagree with your analysis, but what would be more Edwardian in appearance? I have not a clue (my story is I am a colonial and I am sticking to that that...) about what they might look like...
Gracias,
Glenn
I suppose I've spent too many days at Bovington over the years.
http://www.tankmuseum.org/Museum_Exhibitions
The Wippet and the FT17 have always been family favourites, although the Gun Carrier Mark 1 was an interesting design.
The Mother-shaped vehicles (Mark IV etc) are ok, but too stereotypical, although the Mark V and Mark IX troop carriers are possibly not seen enough.
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Personally, I think the yanks look more British than the British! :o
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Well, I did comment on the designs before the KS started up that they mostly looked like variants of the 1916 British Mark IV, and wondered why they couldn't look for US designs to expand on, even if they started with the 1900 Davisons.
Given that there were experiments with machine-gun cars (largely unarmoured, but they had wheels and a motor) in Illinois in 1897, and Ford's Model T rolled off the production lines in mid-1908 I wondered about the coal-powered concept too.
More so given that the first British tank - 1914 Willie - was based on a petrol-driven track unit that originated in California in 1904.
Given that the first American tanks, the 1918 6-ton, were based on the FT17, and the Ford 3-ton has a similar look, I would have thought they may be a better design-base.
I also suggested looking at some of the French armour for a more exotic look, the Schneider or St Chamond perhaps, or the Italian Fiat 2000.
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If I could find an emoticon for being ironic I might be tempted to put:
Commercially though, the British 1917 Mark IV is easy to recognise, and may be the basis for GW designs, and they sell a lot of them....
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I think as its set in an alternate history (With Martians :o) I think the designs are great.
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I think as its set in an alternate history (With Martians :o) I think the designs are great.
Perhaps.
But if you take the background fluff that has the British now with nuclear power, then logically why mess about with tanks & armoured cars at all? Why not just nuke the Martian bases where the cylinders are?
Win the war with one quick decisive strike.
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what would be more Edwardian in appearance?
Gracias,
Glenn
Have you ever seen this?
http://www.royaltournament.org/field%20gun.htm
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Perhaps.
But if you take the background fluff that has the British now with nuclear power, then logically why mess about with tanks & armoured cars at all? Why not just nuke the Martian bases where the cylinders are?
Win the war with one quick decisive strike.
Thought AD states there are no nuclear bombs
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Also they are fighting in the USA and they may not want their country nuked. If you could use nukes it would make a fairly boring game.
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Thought AD states there are no nuclear bombs
But that was my point. If you've acquired nuclear power in 1904 why fuss around inventing tanks? Especially since the first ones only came as a perceived means of breaking the trench stalemate on the Western Front.
More advanced artillery, better sights, quick-loading, rapid traverse, longer range, possibly gun shields (but probably in the form of asbestos fascines or gabions), I could see as a natural progression from the book where the only thing that takes out a tripod is artillery (discounting Thunderchild ramming one - going to ancient Greek naval tactics is not progress).
Possibly more advanced communications would be a likely development (a bit boring for the tabletop, but better telephones, portable radio sets etc would be a logical progression) Maybe even a computer. There's a lot of new data to be analysed after the Martian landings of 1899.
Also gas masks/NBC style suits. Historically, anti-gas hoods were developed (by the Canadians?) soon after the first gas attacks in 1915.
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I disagree I think you are getting too bogged down in actual history rather than looking at it as a scifi game but thats up to you. ;)
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200K hit with 4 days to go...
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200K hit with 4 days to go...
Hope they hit the £250k to be able to make things plastic. I have moved to the BEF Assault pledge and I hope they will offer the add-ons after it has finished as won't be able to afford them to July.
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Silly question. When you "pledge" the money for Kickstarter, do you give them the money then or does it happen when you get the form?
I.E. if I pledge $240 right now, do they get the money from me right then or is it "I'll give you $240 down the road."?
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Silly question. When you "pledge" the money for Kickstarter, do you give them the money then or does it happen when you get the form?
I.E. if I pledge $240 right now, do they get the money from me right then or is it "I'll give you $240 down the road."?
They take the money when the kickstarter ends, which i think is Sunday
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24 hours to get to 250K....
My pledge ended up being Full Assault with the Martian Overseer.
About 17K to go. Hope they make it.
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Soooo....
The broke 250K and that means plastic tripods and a snot load of miniatures for me. :)
I think a good result for AD.
Not so keen on the BEF, myself, so we'll have to see where they go from here. I'm hoping Prussia...
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Well I caved in and pledged for the BEF Invasion pledge this morning ...
Right now (46 mins to go) it's just passed $293k :o
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Quite a dramatic finish! :o
304K raised, 1004 supporters. I would say that did quite well. The funds mean that they will be able to manufacture most of the basic units in plastic at a reduced cost.
It felt good to help out a new company... but it will feel really good when I get their minis! ;D
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Here is a video of the new plastic tanks and how they fit together:
Looks great for conversion. :D
EDIT: Removed as video is no longer available.
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Even though I did not participate, congratulations on your success.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Has there been any updates on the form to fill out with which models we want? I forget the term they use on Kickstarter.
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Has there been any updates on the form to fill out with which models we want? I forget the term they use on Kickstarter.
Do they call them surveys?
Some send them right away, others after material starts coming in to ship I believe.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Actually, they are called Pledge Managers. This is an email you will receive in which you will be able to tell them precisely what you want to buy with the money you have pledged.
According to one update, they were hoping to have the Pledge Manager ready for the end of July.
So, don't worry if you haven't been contacted yet. Nobody has.
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Actually, they are called Pledge Managers.<snip>
Yes, that is it! One of the KS I was involved in talked about sending out a survey, IIRC, because of a problem with the Pledge manager initially, hence my confusion.
Appreciate the right name, sir.
Gracias,
Glenn
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So...
They have finally begun shipping.
Anybody received product or an email concerning shipping?
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Nope still waiting. Someone mentioned on Facebook that the BEF was not ready yet which is what I pledged for :-[. Its on general release on the 16th of June o_o
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I get emails from Architects of War advertising pre-orders for this stuff, but have yet to get any notice my KS package has been sent.
:-[
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North Star listed them about a month ago.
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I received my package last Thursday or at least the first half of it. Basically the starter plastics and a few units of metal infantry. Oddly I didn't get my shipping notice until the day after I got it.
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Interesting.
At least someone got something! :?
However, it appears it may be some time before we get all that we ordered, as they mentioned in the updates.
Gurnalon are you living in the US? What didn't you receive? Was it add-on stuff? Did you get all the stuff that you ordered at your pledge level?
Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting the stuff in my hands. I'm planning on using the tanks alongside a bunch of Sudan Brit minis I just ordered from Blue Moon.
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Nice to hear miniatures have started making their way to backers. I didn't support the kickstarter myself, but might well pick up some of the bigger minis at some point just to paint up.
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I wasn't in on the Kickstarter but I assembled a Scout Tripod and an Assault Tripod last night, have a tank to build tonight. Nick (North Star) gave them to me yesterday and asked me to get them built so that he can put them on display at Partizan this weekend as they are the UK distributor.
Quite nice pieces and bigger than I expected. Easy to assemble with two complete legs and one in pieces so that it can be posed. There were a couple of issues with flashed sprue and a couple of pieces that needed a tiny bit more plastic but I'm sure these are test sprues that have been sent over for promo use, certainly no stock in sight any time soon.
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Here is a photo of the tank sprue:
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/769/815/45f0e6af930742d09bbdf71dd6471619_large.jpg?1395229088)
I see lots of moding opportunities here. For example, changing some of the gun turrets and replacing them with the MG barrels you see on the top left of the sprue. I also have a lot of Battlefront 15mm tanks which could very well provide me with different tracks or bodies.
Personally, I can't shake the thought that the tanks look British and that is why I ordered a bunch of Blue Moon Colonials. I'm thinking a War of the World's scenario ala 1890. Khaki clad infantry with British artillery blue machines.
Like I say, can't wait to start this new project.
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Those machine guns have handles just the right size for a 28mm hand too. I keep looking at them and wondering about 'vickers machine pistols' :D
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I'm in the US so I'm sure that cut some of the time off. I don't have the packing list in front of me but it was mostly add on and bonus stuff I'm missing. US armored infantry and assault teams, the big artillery vehicle, and I think the Martian zombie troops. I got the plastic tanks and tripods, US infantry, HMG teams, BEF squad, rough riders, fleeing civilians, and Martian Drones.
I haven't put any plastics together yet but they look pretty good. The metals have a fair bit of flash on them and I noticed a couple of miscasts on the smaller parts but nothing major.
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Thanks mate for the response.
I read on TMP that later shipments have more stuff in them.
We'll see.
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Here's hoping we get the shipping email soon as it's released 2 weeks on Monday
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They were on the North Star stall at Partizan today.
The tripods look very useful, but the tanks were incredibly naff - ludicrously big guns and festooned with turrets.
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Those were the ones I built. The tank sprue makes about 4 variants, most of which aren't quite so bad. I chose that one as it's the only one that doesn't just look like a ww1 tank. The guns are indeed big but to be honest, for 15mm, the tank itself is bloody big.
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Got my shipping notice! ;D
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Finally got my shipping notice as well. (UK based).
My Martian D-Day is upon me !
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Great news
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yes, and very spooky.
We are staging a big Martians vs Redcoats game (15mm) tomorrow night at my local club. The scenario is an homage to the date.
Quite where this will go once I have masses of new stuff i have no idea ...
++Edit++ Yay ! I just got upgraded to Librarian :o lol :o lol
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I'm still waiting for a shipping notice.
:'(
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The product still hasn't showed up, but I now have all the paint I'll need to do them up.
Quite excited about this project, actually.
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Has anybody already received minis from this KS? I would be very interested in some size comparison shots with 28mm miniatures. Thanks in Advance.
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Here you go
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Here you go
Thank you, perfect (the walkers).
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Walkers are very nice, I guess if you wanted more height you could always extend the legs by grafting in some plastic rod.
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Here's one of mine with the Perry farm house, a GW Kroot and a Perry AWI Redcoat. No they don't all belong together, but a 1700's version of Falling Skies might be a fun game. Even though I don't think a round ball from a Brown Bess would do much to an alien mech.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10384833_797875506889711_3924089003582189082_n.jpg)
I did magnetize it, even though techinally you could just slip the arms in and out of the slots. I ended up cutting metal squares and gluing them to the body with the magnet in the arms. It works pretty well expect the big gun does want to point up unless I rest it on the leg. And the heat ray also wants to only hang low because of the extra weight.
Now to do the other nine assult walkers and six scouts....
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Slow worker, eh?
;)
STILL... haven't got my first box. :(
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My stuff arrived yesterday. The plastic tripods seem to have lost a lot of detail compared to the models shown during the KS project. A quick look at the heat ray arms makes this very obvious. Book looks fantastic and over all I'm okay with what was delivered.
They seem to have made some interesting choices. Grenadier tripods don't have bases, but have a leg longer than the others as if it should be on a base (longer part would fit into hole on base and even it out). Pictures of 'rout' counters in the book, but none included in the provided counters.
I sure wish we had some idea when he second wave/missing items would get to us. I have 31 different items (and multiples of some of them) not yet shipped. It would be nice to get them as several are needed to fill out army choices (have zombie slaves but no slaver tripod for example).
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Got my box today!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
I've got like 11 tripods and 15 tanks. o_o
Lots left to come. ;D
Tis enough to create an American, British and Martian Army.
When they start putting out their Venusian stuff... you know where I'm going... :D