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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: giles the zog on May 11, 2013, 12:19:18 AM
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I found a Russia music/you tube video some time ago and neglected to book mark it.
It seemed to be a mish mash of stuff from The Admiral, and at least one more Russian movie including a scene where an officer gets shorn of his shoulder boards and then tossed out into a bunch of bolshies, and onto their bayonet points.
All saet to a woman singing.
Any ideas ?
Thanks.
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After a perusal of my Russian music playlist, I believe this video may be what you're referring to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUKQIlHu3tk
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I don't understand russian
what is this video about?
Tsarist nostalgia? Bolshevik nostalgia?
something else?
it tastes rather political.....
there, I said it..
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This song is about the white generals during the Civil War in Russia.
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One often wonders where all this Russian nostalgia for autocratic despots and a society divided into the insanely wealthy and the down trodden poor stems from. Presumably a total absence of these factors in contemporary Russia. ;)
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I myself do not understand this situation. Now Russia bundle on the poor and the rich is very significant. And it's still growing. In Russia 77% of the working population is not now in a position to defer into their bank account substantial sum. All that a person has earned over the last month, he has to spend on food, housing and other daily expenses. Especially in the regions of Russia. In Moscow alone, the income level is much higher. For same job, that person does in our the Altai, in Moscow, he would have received the amount is four times higher.
Nostalgia for the Imperial Russia is incomprehensible to me personally because if the citizens of the Russian Empire were living well enough, they would not have taken part in two revolutions in a row for one year.
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not to mention that the second one was a coup d'etat on an elected government, not a revolution ;)
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And what is the October coup is fundamentally different from the February Revolution?
We can not name a the Provisional Government is absolutely legitimate - especially after the 1 (14) September 1917, Kerensky proclaimed the Directoria and actually usurped power. This is somehow always forget ... At the moment of the October coup, the country actually ruled dictator - Kerensky.
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I will absolutely agree on the point that the establishment of power after a revoluton can rarely be called legitimate - there are many examples in history for that. However to call Kerensky a dictator might be viewed as retrostyled Bolshevik historiography in order to legitimize the overthrowing of the government in october, don't You think?
In any case, the struggle for power between Kerensky's provisional government and Lenin's Bolsheviks didn't do the young Russian democracy a big favor, I think we can agree on that one ;)
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I agree. But this is a very difficult question.
The collapse of the army (the elimination of one-man management and the introduction of Soldiers' Committees), support for sovereignization of the borderlands, the destruction of police structures - all actions of the Provisional Government, which led to chaos in the country. This chaos has made it possible coming to power in the country very few Bolsheviks and their allies.
My opinion - Russia after the February Revolution and the actions made by the Provisional Government, was doomed to dictatorship. Had authorities do not take the Bolsheviks - it would be seized military leaders (similar to General Kornilov), or representatives of other parties. And the Civil War would still be inevitable.
By the way, in my opinion the, the victory of the White in the Civil War would have led to the creation in Russia of the fascist (not Nazi) regime. Following the model of Franco's Spain.
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very well possible, I deem it a believable scenario. Civil war all along....
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Radical change of power in a country which participates in World War - the greatest crime. And the do that not the Bolsheviks...
But of course this does not justify crimes Bolsheviks.
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After a perusal of my Russian music playlist, I believe this video may be what you're referring to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUKQIlHu3tk
That's e one, ironically, earlier today, I found I had embedded the link in my blog roll, but neglected to book mark it !
Any info on the lyrics ?
Thanks !
Giles
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I apologize for the rough translation - my knowledge of English is modest :)
Have not yet torn shoulder straps
And not were shot regiments,
Have not yet red, - green
Growing grass by the river.
Old they are - not much and not little,
But their fate is sealed.
They have not yet the generals,
And do not lose the war.
They have in reserve a short moment
For stormy glory and victories,
sentimental beauties
To them admiringly look after him.
And at parades of triumphal
They are waited awards and ranks,
But these scenes are so fatal,
And these face so pale.
Chorus of the song:
Bloody, intoxicated,
Want to sing, want a wolf howl!
Is my native country,
What did you doing to me?
Burning family's albums
In fireplaces hot on coals
From walls the Ipatiev House
Has already approaching fear
Has already come down from heaven messiah
And his thoughts pure.
Own eternal cross carries a Russia,
Countings recent tomb crosses.
Yesterday exquisite slickers,
Today - Knights of War
They have not yet emigrants
They are still her children.
But life is gone, as did not happen,
And do not leave a trace.
On the horizon, burning out
Their guiding star.
Chorus of the song:
The last shot with the heart is crossed
Inexorable last look,
But the diaries of women who loved
Resurrect them for posterity.
Oh, my God, what would with us was
Whenever it's not in vain ...
Whenever mind is not eclipsed
On the tower the Red Dawn?
Chorus of the song:
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One often wonders where all this Russian nostalgia for autocratic despots and a society divided into the insanely wealthy and the down trodden poor stems from. Presumably a total absence of these factors in contemporary Russia. ;)
Most likely because the Bolshevik revolution resulted in even greater despotism and poverty. While the Russian Empire was by no means the most humanitarian state, its crimes pale in comparison to what the Communists committed in only a fraction of the time.
Had Russia been ruled by quite literally anyone but Nicholas II, I believe you would still see a Russian Empire (or at least monarchy) surviving into the present day. After the Revolution of 1905 and the creation of a constitution, Russia had pacified the greater bulk of the agitated population. The Bolsheviks were still around, but they were an irrelevant fringe party in comparison to the SRs and Trudoviks, both of which had largely laid down their arms against the Tsarist government.
Had Nicholas II not been a complete idiot and tossed aside the Duma whenever it displeased him, the worst of his political inadequacies would have been minimized, and the Russian people could at least have faith in a partially-popular government.
The First World War, of course, would still be a harrowing moment for Russia regardless of who its Tsar was. However, the presence of an upheld constitution and strong Duma would at least have diminished the possibility of a second revolution due to greater trust and representation from the people.
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At the time of the collapse of the communist regime in the Russian society anti-communist sentiments were very strong. But in 20 years of stupid and ill-conceived "reform", the level of life of Russian citizens has worse than it was under communism (except for Moscow and resource extraction regions). So in the Russian society again became popular leftist ideas (socialist). The words "liberal" and "Democrat" sound now in Russia as sinonimy word "thief" and "corrupt." This is a result of the actions of post-Soviet authorities.
Although the revival of communist ideas, I think, is impossible. Even the Russian Communist Party really is not. Gone was their main thesis of the "class struggle." It is now in fact a common European-style socialist party that operates a well-known brand.
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I myself do not understand this situation. Now Russia bundle on the poor and the rich is very significant. And it's still growing. In Russia 77% of the working population is not now in a position to defer into their bank account substantial sum. All that a person has earned over the last month, he has to spend on food, housing and other daily expenses.
Wow... times are still hard, eh?
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On the internal problems of the country after the collapse of the Soviet system were superimposed general problems of the global economic crisis. Country yet helps out the high price of energy resources ... If the price of oil and gas will fall - in Russia will be a new revolution :)
Maybe - monarchical revolution? lol
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well, we could give Anarchism another try ;)
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Oh my God! Russia is enough of experiments with the state device ... Maybe now you try it? ;)
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Anytime ;)
but seriously, Anarchism in Germany of all countries? And Rostbeef in India.....
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On the internal problems of the country after the collapse of the Soviet system were superimposed general problems of the global economic crisis. Country yet helps out the high price of energy resources ... If the price of oil and gas will fall - in Russia will be a new revolution :)
Maybe - monarchical revolution? lol
All power to the Grand Dukes! lol