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Miniatures Adventure => Interwar => Topic started by: commissarmoody on June 02, 2013, 11:16:45 PM
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Provisional Pledge Levels and Stretch Goals for the Kickstarter:
Level 1. Basic Support Level
Level 2. "1933: A Nation Divided, Volume 1"
Level 3. Volume 1, +2 Propaganda Posters of Choice
Level 4. 2 Copies of Volume 1, 4 Posters
Level 5. 1 Book, 2 Posters, 2 Squads of any one type (Minutemen or Militia
:evel 6. 2 Books, 4 Posters, 4 Squads (2 of each type)
Level 7. Everything at 6 plus an M1917 Six Ton Tank
Level 8. 2 Books, 4 Posters, 5 Squads of Each, 2 M1917s
Level 9 (Limited). Everything at 8 plus MkVIII Liberty Heavy Tank
Level 10. Everything in 8 plus Stanley Steam tank and Mark VIII Liberty.
Level 11. "Heroes of the Second American Civil War" Everything in 10, plus the likeness of yourself or a loved one sculpted as part of a personalities pack as a Minuteman, Militia, Silvershirt, or Regular Army/Marine in WW1 era uniform.
Stretch Goal
(We are fairly certain that the Silvershirts would be our first stretch goal; not sure what order the others would follow in.)
Posting this up on behalf of "1933: A nation Divided"
Rough outline to the future kick starter.
1. Silvershirts (3 Troops + 1 Command)
2. Guide to Armor, Volume 1
3. Ford 3 Ton Tank
4. LMGs for Silvershirts, Militia, and Minutemen
5. Heavy Weapons support for Silvershirts, Militia, and Minutemen
6. US Troops in Interwar Uniform
7. Personalities Pack: Lindbergh, Truman, Patton, Dickie Washington
8. Lindbergh Youth (3 Troops, +1 Command)
10. Porter Naval Gun Truck
11. Lindbergh Youth LMG
12. Lindbergh Youth Heavy Weapons
Comments, questions, etc. are welcome
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Depending on who sculpts 'em I might be interested in interwar US army. BTW you really do need a Smedley Butler in your personality pack.
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Agreed, I already suggested Mr. Butler.
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Sounds good to me, when do I sign up?
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will be up for this if I can see the sculpt also another one for Butler :)
would also make the US troops in interwar uniforms the first stretch goal as there's probably more demand.
would also recommenced putting this on the VBCW forum.
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Forgot to post up the link to the FB page ;D
https://www.facebook.com/pages/1933-A-Nation-Divided/333543480090255?fref=ts
Let them know what you think.
Also it would seem that they had decided to post up there own link with all the info already.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=52559.0
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Also feel free to share it on the VBCW forum if you want.
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Navel crews for gun boats would be useful. Coppers & company men. Union brigades & Wobblies.
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Having grown up in the Pacific Northwest, this idea is very interesting. I'm not sure what scale of forces you have in mind, but clashes between armed longshoremen and company police and the National Guard wouldn't be too far off the mark. Did you know that the Longshoreman's union paint their floors red to remember their fallen brothers during some of these riots? Red is for their spilled blood so that they never forget. I imagine that lots of the prohibition gangsters and police would be useful, as well as the pulp era soldiers, sailors, and marines. I wonder if the National Guard was still using F-17 tanks out here?
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Northtroll, at least two 17's were kept in the Tri cities and Spokane area to use against Wobblies. I never could find out if they were regular army or national guard as the sources are suspect, but they were used for parades and such as a reminder to everyone involved. They may not have been operational or even finished.
One of the tanks even had Matewan scrawled across it and was allegedly hauled up and down the Milwaukee railroad during worker disputes in '36 or '37.
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I actually did know this lol,
I did a write up for an Independent Seattle, with pretty much the whole Puget Sound/Cascade region using the dockworkers strike as an excuse for splitting off into what is considered "RED" Territory by the emergency government.
It of course is not a clean break with small conclaves remaining loyal to the government. So worker/miner/logger Militias, fighting against "Silver shirts" and each other. (Biggest problem they have is that the city can not decided if they want to Constitutionalists, communist, anarchist or socialist)
I grew up in Spokane, before my folks got stationed over in Germany so I have a soft spot of the north west.
In the my current write ups Portland and Spokane are pro government. But aside from that, most of the rest of the Northwest is an open book! So feel free to contribute your own ideas to the cause for a future book, or just make your own write ups as you see fit.
Also We are posting up a lot of fluff on the 1933 A nation divided Facebook page. Feel free to contribute.
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Smedley Butler is certainly important, and we will find a way to get him in.
The Northwest will certainly be covered, likely in Volume 3. Volume 2 is going to cover the Northeast.
As for the sculptor, I will likely be sending at least some of the figure work to Leandro Ventic, who has proven to be both reliable and talented. Please join us over on the Facebook page if you have any suggestions, questions, or would simply like to follow along with the fluff.
-Alex
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Portland and Spokane are pro government.
Historically Portland was a union stronghold surrounded by conservatives both up & down river, even right across the river in Vancouver WA.
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So your saying not much has changed then. lol
I was just going of the idea that even though they are pro union there relative strong KKK population would be folded into the silver shirts. Thus preventing the unions and small group of active communist from forming more then a flying columns.
But if you can write up a good story about the unions showing solidarity with there working class brothers to the north, we would be more then happy to give it a read.
:)
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Call it the Red coast ;D
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Having grown up in the Pacific Northwest, this idea is very interesting. I'm not sure what scale of forces you have in mind, but clashes between armed longshoremen and company police and the National Guard wouldn't be too far off the mark. Did you know that the Longshoreman's union paint their floors red to remember their fallen brothers during some of these riots? Red is for their spilled blood so that they never forget. I imagine that lots of the prohibition gangsters and police would be useful, as well as the pulp era soldiers, sailors, and marines. I wonder if the National Guard was still using F-17 tanks out here?
The United States officially purchased 144 FT-17s from the French during the First World War, but there are no clear records as to how many were acquired -after-. It looks like at least some of them were purchased, because there are a few National Guard detachments during the era that have one or more in inventory. Then there are the FT-17s used in various monuments, as museum pieces, in parks...
However, do keep in mind that the United States produced more than 950 M1917 Six Tons (the "American Renault"), which makes the M1917 the single most common tank in American service until the Second World War. The only other tank produced in serial after the end of the First World War until the period in which the book begins (1933-1935) was the Mark VIII "Liberty", produced to the tune of one hundred vehicles.
Significant differences between the FT-17 and the M1917 (some of these are useful when looking at photographs) -
- Metal front wheels, rather than metal plated wood
- Hexagonal turrets (only 50% of the FT-17s built were constructed with these)
- Distinctive American gunshield/mantlet used with both the "Male" and "Female" Variants
- Exhaust is on the -left- of the hull rather than the right
- Vision slits are approximately 2" higher than in the standard FT-17
- There is a wall separating the engine compartment from the crew compartment
- The M1917 has an internal, electric starter in addition to the external starter
In addition, in the early 1930s, a very small number were upgraded with a more powerful engine, the so-called M1917A1. This expanded the length of the engine compartment by up to a foot, depending upon the source.
A number of M1917s were later "modified" by Hollywood for use in films about the Great War, so many of the "FT-17s" we have in parks and museums today are actually misidentified M1917 tanks. The left exhaust mounting is a dead giveaway, since many conversions involved removing the exhaust but leaving the mounting point there.
-Alex
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We have been unlocked :D
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We were locked? Why?
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It was accident apparently
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We were locked? Why?
It was accident apparently
Don't look at me... I've no idea who, what, how or even possibly why. :?
I can't even imagine anyone with the capability to lock a topic, doing so without sending a PM to the OP and/or myself either.
Anyway... problem solved now, continue... :)
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Does anybody have suggestions for figures of loggers, miners and the like? Most of VBCW figures are not rough looking enough. I have pictures of my great grandfather and his logging crew as a guide. Something else to consider. Roads as we know of them in the United States were much cruder, or even non existent. In many places, wealthier folks had lock ups for criminals that the Sheriff's posse collected. Horseback patrols were the only way to get some lawbreakers. Mounted police units are a viable troop choice I think. I'm really tempted by Brigade Games police miniatures as a result! Most of the 20's figures would work fairly well, I think.
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Maybe some of the Pulp Figures trappers range.
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Maybe some of the Pulp Figures trappers range.
Most of them only work for Attic or Yukon adventures if you ask me.
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Good news. We've secured the services of Leandro Ventic to sculpt the range, as hoped. Should turn out very nicely.
-Alex
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Sweet! thanks for the update.
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In the meanwhile, here are the current funding levels, summarized. The initial squads on offer are Minutemen and Militiamen. Note that stretch goals may unlock additional rewards (minis, posters, new books, etc.) as well as different options (say, Silvershirts instead of Minutemen, etc.) Yes, we will be allowing you to do add-ons.
Level 1 - $1+ Basic Donation (Thank you!)
Level 2 - $10+ (PDF Version of the Book)
Level 3 - $35+ (Printed Version of the Book)
Level 4 - $80+ (Book + 2x8 Man Squads of your choice)
Level 5 - $125+ (Book + 4x8 Man Squads of your choice)
Level 6 - $145+ (Book, 4x8 Man Squads, 1xM1917 6 Ton tanks)
Level 7 - $165+ (Book, 4x8 Man Squads, 2xM1917 6 Ton tanks)
Level 8 - $270 (Book, 8x8 Man Squads, 2xM1917 6 Ton tanks)
Level 9 - $340 (All of the above, plus the MKVIII Liberty)
Level 10 (Limited) $345 (All of the above, PLUS a Stanley Steamtank)
Level 11 $500 - (All of the above, plus yourself or a loved one sculpted as part of a "Heroes of the Second American Civil War" personality pack)
-Alex
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any update on this could really use inter-war Americans for a WPR game ?
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Still in the planning mode. Last I heard they were working out bugs in the casting processes of some of the vehicles. So I will pop them a message and see if there are any changes. :)
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Preview of the Kickstarter now up.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1926752146/1613006458?token=c63e2ca1
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Beat me to posting that up Jerwood.
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Oh when are you going live?
I always miss the early bird stuff...
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PS any thoughts a a pdf plus minis pledge tio save you postage and us some money to spend on more lead?
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Its Gone live as of now, get in there and pledge! lol
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1926752146/1933-a-nation-divided?ref=email
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I just did :) :) :)
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Thanks bill :D
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PS any thoughts a a pdf plus minis pledge tio save you postage and us some money to spend on more lead?
Good idea! I'll pass this along to Alex and perhaps there's a level that could be added there. If not, I believe you can add 8-man squads to any pledge level for $25 each.
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Here's a preview as to concepts because we've had requests for details on the appearance of the first figs that will be ready.
Leandro Ventic is currently working on sculpts for 2 Militia figs and 1 Minuteman. These should be done in the next 3 weeks; pics of greens will be posted up as soon as they're ready!
The Militia woman will closely resemble the woman in this poster (which was in the KS video):
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/Amendera/062a7442-fb6e-4fa6-8450-879110e006bf_zps1c274cbd.jpg)
The Militia man will resemble the fellow toward the left of this photo of Bonus Marchers, with the crowbar held up:
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/Amendera/87685a75-ac72-4b11-b79f-b9ef5f1deaec_zps9cf8559b.jpg)
Hope this helps!! And thank you for your support!!!
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Question, might be better for the stretch goals, but is there a plane for separate heads? Or sculpts with different head gear?
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The Militia woman will closely resemble the woman in this poster (which was in the KS video):
How about 'Rosie the riveter' with a rifle, as an alternative?
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7wElgj4rdYE/UkxvDRYRx5I/AAAAAAAAPuQ/k-pnWCsdGY4/w240-h310-no/3sj5co.jpg)
It's a bit more 'American' than an adapted SCW image. I'd buy one. :)
Good Luck on this project though, I think it has legs.
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Who doesn't like Rosie?
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I love Rosie! Which is why she will likely appear in a stretch goal as part of a character pack :) (sneak preview!)
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Have you seen bomber girls? Its a drama about women working at a munitions factory in world war 2. Might make some good models for the worker women.
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I just pledged at the book level. The vehicles might interest me but not the figures. We did a campaign already and I still have the figures. We may start it up again. Look up the "Fire in the Valley" campaign.
Good Luck Alex and Chris.
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Thanks dude, And see if any one else up in nor cal is intersted. Spread the word. :D
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Have you seen bomber girls? Its a drama about women working at a munitions factory in world war 2. Might make some good models for the worker women.
Good idea! Will have to check that out!
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PS any thoughts a a pdf plus minis pledge tio save you postage and us some money to spend on more lead?
Just added to the Kickstarter: a $50 backer level for a PDF and 2 x 8-man squads!
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Woot!
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Just pledged for the book :)
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Two new updates, One on the composition of Nationalist, Constitutionalist/Red States and neutral states in the US.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1926752146/1933-a-nation-divided/posts/621026
The next talks about the American Nationalist party. Or the Silver Legion.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1926752146/1933-a-nation-divided/posts/621761
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Your links are broken & don't work.
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The problem has been corrected
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Any chance that the Liberty could be an add on? I would like to buy the book + tank. Not sure baout the minis at this point.
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I will pass on the suggestion.
And speaking about the mins, Here is a few of the greens. http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=59010.new%3btopicseen#new
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The local newspaper, the Sacramento Bee has a picture on the front page of the flag of the state of Jefferson. It was a real idea that started in December of 1941, to create a new state out of the northern counties of California and the southern counties of Oregon. The movement is being revived.
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The goal is to make all the vehicles an add on as a Stretch Goal, once funding is reached. We can't include it as an add-on yet, unfortunately. Really wanted to but couldn't get the math to work to allow for that, and to leave enough to fund the printing of the book and production of the minis.
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Another update, this time about the USMC.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1926752146/1933-a-nation-divided/posts/627474
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Another update, this time about the battle of Sleepy Hallow in up state New York
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1926752146/1933-a-nation-divided/posts/628229?at=BAh7B0kiCHVpZAY6BkVUaQPFQi9JIgtleHBpcnkGOwBUSSIYMjAxMy0xMS0xNCAyMTo0MDoxMQY7AFQ%3D--8dd96919b6db1c8ac9f1b9731746a73219fc5d70&ref=backer_project_update
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The local newspaper, the Sacramento Bee has a picture on the front page of the flag of the state of Jefferson. It was a real idea that started in December of 1941, to create a new state out of the northern counties of California and the southern counties of Oregon. The movement is being revived.
Long live Jefferson!
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A new update, "A Very British civil war" forum has added a 1933 A nation divided section to its extensive roster. :D
http://vbcf.freeforums.org/1933-a-nation-divided-f61.html
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Excellent news!!!
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I pledged and I have already started writing up some history or my little part og Georgia, Dade county. I have never wanted a kick-starter to succeed more!
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Great, thank you!
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Looking forward to see what you come up with B.E.A.R
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I do have a question though, how do your sculpts match up with Pulp Figures? I have some of the pulp 30's USMC?
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They should match up just fine. The figs Leandro did for the Shanghai range fit in well on the tabletop with our Pulp Figures, as I recall. And these are the same sculptor & same scale. I'll try to get a pic of one of our existing products next to a Pulp Figure in the next couple days so you can see the comparison.
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Thanks!
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For those of you who are excited about writing part of the history... we've just added a new pledge level as a limited (5-person) reward!
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Want to play a role in the development of our story? Don't want to wait until Letters From The Front is ready for publication? Here's your chance to join us as a co-author!
SONS OF THE OLD WORLD: YOUR COUSINS IN AMERICA NEED YOU! ($90)
Do you think your country of birth should have its say in how the war goes? Is there an obscure unit of Coastal Artillery that a beloved uncle served in that deserves to see some action? Does the unit you served in need to play a prominent role in the early years of the war? This is your chance to make sure it happens. At this level, you will not only be contributing directly to the goal of funding our project, but play a direct role in the production thereof. Five individuals backing at this level will be given credit as co-authors and given the opportunity to write up a fully official background article and gaming suggestions for any unit of their choice. (Subject to proofreading, and we do reserve the right to make a few alterations if it strays too far from the theme we've established.) In addition, you'll receive all of the rewards of the $80 level!
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Enough Lurking, I'm in.
Business is about to pick up ;)
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Asking for the input of other authors is to be applauded... but we generally get paid to write, occasionally I might do some 'pro bono', or as word count combined with a percentage of total sales but actually paying to contribute is a brand new concept to me.
;)
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For those of you who are excited about writing part of the history... we've just added a new pledge level as a limited (5-person) reward!
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Want to play a role in the development of our story? Don't want to wait until Letters From The Front is ready for publication? Here's your chance to join us as a co-author!
SONS OF THE OLD WORLD: YOUR COUSINS IN AMERICA NEED YOU! ($90)
Do you think your country of birth should have its say in how the war goes? Is there an obscure unit of Coastal Artillery that a beloved uncle served in that deserves to see some action? Does the unit you served in need to play a prominent role in the early years of the war? This is your chance to make sure it happens. At this level, you will not only be contributing directly to the goal of funding our project, but play a direct role in the production thereof. Five individuals backing at this level will be given credit as co-authors and given the opportunity to write up a fully official background article and gaming suggestions for any unit of their choice. (Subject to proofreading, and we do reserve the right to make a few alterations if it strays too far from the theme we've established.) In addition, you'll receive all of the rewards of the $80 level!
When I saw this I knew I couldn't just sit back and watch this project any longer, I had to get in on it! I'm looking forward to getting a unit from my hometown into the war!
-Chuck
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When I saw this I knew I couldn't just sit back and watch this project any longer, I had to get in on it! I'm looking forward to getting a unit from my hometown into the war!
-Chuck
Excellent!! Welcome aboard!!
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Also, for those of you who are following, some stretch goals have just been added!
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Stretch Goals (As of 10/27)
LOCKED: $10,150 USD –
All backers at $35 USD and higher will have their choice of a Constitutionalist, Nationalist, or Communist Propaganda Poster featuring the artwork of Patty McPancakes at no additional charge!
LOCKED: $12,000 USD -
All backers at $50 USD or above will receive one set of support weapons for the Minute Men, featuring an M1895 Colt-Browning MG and two man crew, and a set of support weapons for the Militia, featuring a sharpshooter and a molotov cocktail grenadier! These items will also be available as add-ons for all pledges at $35 USD or higher!
LOCKED: $12,500 USD -
All backers receiving vehicles as part of their pledge may choose to opt out of their included M1917 Six Ton tanks and instead opt for an N1 A/B Porter Naval Gun Truck OR an M1932 Christie Tank. In addition, these vehicles will be available as add-ons for all backers at $35 USD and above!
Keep spreading the word, and we'll keep adding stretch goals!
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Hi all - I know I've started several new threads, but just wanted to comment here for those of you who may be receiving notifications for this topic:
If you're considering supporting this project but haven't gotten to it, now is the time!!! We have only 9 days left and still need backers to make this project happen! A copy of the book is only $35 in print, $10 in PDF! Minis are available beginning at a $50 backer level! Care for a beautiful M1917? $25 add on to a $35 & up pledge! Every little bit helps!!
Thank you all!
Jennifer
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All - a new backer level has been added and the price of getting yourself (or a loved one, ancestor, etc.) sculpted as one of the figures in the range has been reduced!
TO THE VICTORS GO THE SPOILS.
By popular request, another opportunity to make your mark in the ongoing story that is the Second American Civil War. You may write a scenario for miniatures gaming that will be included in 1933: A Nation Divided. You may create an engagement of your choosing, determine the combatants involved, and determine the outcome, as well as providing a scenario for replaying the battle you've created and the forces involved. (We reserve the right to proofread your scenario and, if necessary, to ask you to make revisions 'No, I'm sorry, you can't have a Tiger popping through a magical time portal from 1943 to wreck havoc in St. Louis.') We will help you along the way with any questions and background information you may need. In addition, you will receive all the benefits of the $80 level, plus a co-author's credit in the book!
IN addition, we have reduced the level of the top backing award from $500 to $400. Get yourself or a loved one sculpted in miniature. LITERALLY be a part of the action on the tabletop
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Well folks, it seems that sadly the kick starter isn't going to cut it this time, so its been taken down. I am still an avid fan of the idea of the idea of 1933 and would really love to see it and the mins come alive on thw table top but, it seems that its not to be at this time.
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That's actually a real shame. It wasn't for me, but I thought it would generate far more interest than it did. However I'm sure lessons have been learnt and with some time out and a re-think, it will return and be more successful at some future point.
:)
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Agreed, we shell return! :D
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Well, it may have been viewed as niche by some or some may have just been uncertain about how it might not have been able to be easily adaptable to other geographies/locales.
While it had negative appeal to me for various reasons I thought it might get enough funding to be a "go" but apparently not.
Maybe there will be a way for the game designers to get feedback about why people didn't support it (or support it more aggressively) so the appeal could be ramped up to larger number of supporters.
Gracias,
Glenn
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It's a shame, all right; however, that's not going to stop me from playing my campaign set here in the Twin Cities... ;)
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Right! Still plane on working on building up my silver shirts and the Seattle soviet.
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I wished the creators well as I hope they will reasess and return. The concept as expressed in the video was well conceived and seemed quite a possible run of alternate events. I say this as a person who generally does not like alternate history. I was quite impressed with the entire concept once I had given the creators a chance to make the pitch.
Saying this, I will also admit that I did not contribute to the kickstarter and for two reasons:
1. Kickstarter seems to want an awful lot of personal information to simply make a pledge, and this turns me off (personal preference).
2. The expressed initial goal seemed rather large and left me with the feeling that, "their not going to even come close".
My recommendations are therefore quite obvious to easily figured out; offer additional ways to pledge, and start with a smaller initial goal. Perhaps don't go for a bound edition of the rules (go .pdf), or begin by offering a few of the figures/models for actual purchase that could cross over from VBCW to 1933AND. baith the grow the market from where it currently is and not trying to close all of the loops in one swoop.
David
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Oh felt the same way myself. But I guess it was the go big or go home idea. lol
I would still get behind a PDF and of course the mins as they are produced.
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Great shame, even though I didn't pledge (financial reasons) I think restarting small is a very good idea. As mentioned above, maybe a PDF and some minis to draw in the rest of the interwar crowd.
Where I thought the VACW thing falls flat is that there's no 'hook', or 'feel' to it. VBCW has that whole Jeeves and Wooster thing going on, with a readily identifiable villain in the form of the BUF. To me the VACW lacks this, although because I'm British, maybe I'm missing some of the subtleties of the genre. No offence meant to my American chums, just my take on the whole thing :D
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The Silver Legion was the US equivalent of the BUF and Lindbergh a somewhat more charismatic Mosley.
Accepted though, being British, despite an interest in post-WW2 America, it didn't grab me for this era. For me the American 30's is all 'Steinbeck', or indeed 'Turtledove'.
It's a massive cliché and somewhat inaccurate, but I imagine North versus South would have been a far more popular theme to a mass audience and would have resonated with a few Europeans too perhaps. Perhaps an East-West conflict over migration might have legs? I don't know, I'm not by any means up on the history.
Nevertheless it was all there... several factions, a 'dispute' and some good research... what was missing? :?
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I am thinking a little lack of exposure to the main stream game market, and a relative high goal from a small unknown company made some folks shy about contributing.
That being said, they have not giving up yet, and are exploring new options to try and get the book out and published.
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Nevertheless it was all there... several factions, a 'dispute' and some good research... what was missing? :?
One non-war gamer person I mentioned this to said (paraphrasing alert) it was both - potentially too political * for those who knew the history of the personalities and time involved but too obscure for those who skipped those years in American History class - which struck a chord with me personally although I am desperately staying away from 25+ mm figures and new eras in the foreseeable future as my main deterrent.
* - But that may have just been referenced to the current politically charged atmosphere in my immediate locale to a large degree.
Gracias,
Glenn
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I am thinking a little lack of exposure to the main stream game market, and a relative high goal from a small unknown company made some folks shy about contributing. <snip>
I can see that as a factor although I never connected the company to my interest (I am a manufacturer whore - using whatever figures float my boat for a period/genre.) Loyalty to a sculptor's work (Sandra Garrity back a few (harrumph) years ago) maybe... a company... not really a factor.
Gracias,
Glenn
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* - But that may have just been referenced to the current politically charged atmosphere in my immediate locale to a large degree.
Gracias,
Glenn
While not relevant to today in some ways the City of Kirkwood years ago changed the name of Lindbergh Boulevard back int he day to Kir wood Boulevard. It changes back to Lindbergh on the far side of the city limits. Natives to Saint Louis say it was related to Lindbergh's political persuasion that accounts for that name change. Is that true - not satisfied it is or isn't but leaning towards not: http://historyhappenshere.org/node/6824
At least one local insists it was the unspoken reason for the name change in Kirkwood. Who really knows?
http://kirkwood.patch.com/groups/editors-picks/p/lindbergh-links-one-road-two-names-the-difference-is-5c8d5b33a8
http://kirkwood.patch.com/groups/editors-picks/p/lindbergh-links-a-long-boulevard-a-lengthy-history
The odd things that passionately pass as history often astounds this historian by training. lol
Gracias,
Glenn
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I don't find it to be to political. Most of the folks I told the idea to. Even none war gamers seemed to think it was a novel idea. That is if they cared at all. lol
But I can see there point. I also have to mention that I don't consider any subject to be taboo, so I might be biased in that affect. :D
But agreed, the period might be to unsecure for the average non history inclined American, 1930s? Great depression, dust bowl. That's all that is taught in most public schools so I guess they can be forgive.
I am personally a fan of this period and think it is not only good for wargameing, but would make great pulp fodder. Also I think some decent Silver Legion mins will make great cultist for a game of strange eons or Of unspeakable cults.
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I really wanted this to succeed. I had the feeling from the outset tat it wouldn't though. I love the background and the sales film. The models looked great. I think it was just too niche for most folks. But to be fair if one doesn't frequent the LAF most Americans would have no idea of the background for the VBCW alt history either.
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Well, maybe next time with better advertising and the things suggested here (avoid concerns about politics I broached IMO) to make it a more attractive KS it will work. Since I won't be buying larger sized figures like 25+ mm in the future my concerns would only be adapting the rules to 15 mm or smaller.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Maybe you should have stuck to one thing, like the book. taking on figures and tanks was just too much. A lot of people don't like the figures because they are too small (they 15mm"), or too big (they play 28mm not 25mm). Same but to a lesser extent with the tanks. But the story/fluff could go with any rules set and any scale.
I agree that kickstarter does not make it easy.
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I chalk it up to trying to do much to soon. Get the background out there, with art to support there vision of the era. And then introduce the figs.
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Agreed - and that's what we will likely try next - a Kickstarter for the book only, with the 2 sets of minis we've already begun having sculpted as stretch goals. Stay tuned - hopefully this will happen reasonably soon, but we've been set back by the fact that the computer containing the files for the video died on us (data recoverability uncertain) so we'll need a new video in order to go live.
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Ack! >:(
I hate when that happens.