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Miniatures Adventure => The Great War => Topic started by: NurgleHH on 08 May 2008, 08:19:27 AM
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Hi,
i want to order some WWI-Figs. I like Renegade and Greatwar. Did someone compare the Size?
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Ive gone with Renegade for my WW1 antics, mainly because they have the "any pack for £6" deal on right now :)
I like the sculpts alot but some may find them "chunky".
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I've taken a comparison shot, but right now Photobucket are doing site maintenance or something. As soon as they stop playing silly buggers I'll post the pic.
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Funny, yesterday I did a comparison pic for the german sweetwater forum.
I wouldn't mix them in units, as the GWMs are slimmer. The height is OK, though. In my opinion renegade work best with Copplestone and Brigade (except for late war germans).
From left to right: Copplestone, GWM, Brigade Games, Renegade, Renegade
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2285/p5070002ms9.jpg)
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The height is OK, though. In my opinion renegade work best with Copplestone and Brigade (except for late war germans).
Why not the late war Germans? (I was going to buy some renegade.)
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Here's my pic (finally):
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/RenGWM.jpg)
The Renegade ones are a little chubbier, but I don't really think there's all that much in it. I have no problems using them together.
Edit: The GWM chap looks shorter because he is running and leaning forward as he does so. On reflection it isn't the best pic to compare by, soz.
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The height is OK, though. In my opinion renegade work best with Copplestone and Brigade (except for late war germans).
Why not the late war Germans? (I was going to buy some renegade.)
The size is right, but in my opinion the steel helmets won't do. While GWM and Renegade helmets look rather similar, the Brigade ones look completely different.
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The height is OK, though. In my opinion renegade work best with Copplestone and Brigade (except for late war germans).
Why not the late war Germans? (I was going to buy some renegade.)
The size is right, but in my opinion the steel helmets won't do. While GWM and Renegade helmets look rather similar, the Brigade ones look completely different.
Thanks :)
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Thank you. Maybe it would be a good Idea to make a Internet-DB for Comparison...
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I don't mean to hijack, but great paint job on those square heads Plynkes! Is it my eyes or did you make the uniforms a blueish grey? I'm curious because I plan to start on a section of Foundry figures tonight or tomorrow.
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It is a sort of bluish, greenish grey, yes. In my library have so many pictures of actual uniforms and colour plates, and none of them agree with each other as to the degree (or indeed lack of it) of "greeness" in the grey that in the end I decided to just go with what pleased the eye.
Initially I mixed up a colour I liked using GW blue, grey and green (the exact names escape me). Now I use Cote d'Armes Field Grey, which looks about the same but involves less work (no mixing, except for shades and highlights). Here's a newer one done that way:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Franz%20Ferdinand/04Portrait.jpg)
The trousers on all of them are done with a plain grey (GW Codex Grey and Fortress Grey), without any green or blue in it.
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Thanks for that. My Blandford guidebook says the earlier uniforms were straight grey, so I might take the easy route. I do like the slightly greenish tinge though. I might try mixing a bit of VMC German Uniform in to whatever grey I wind up using.
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Ive gone with Renegade for my WW1 antics, mainly because they have the "any pack for £6" deal on right now :)I like the sculpts alot but some may find them "chunky".
Ah, so I'm not the only one then? ;)
Of course apart from having some of the most characterful BEF officers going (being earlier Mike Owen sculpts) they also produce the cavalry figures I must have in an early war army.
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It is a sort of bluish, greenish grey, yes. In my library have so many pictures of actual uniforms and colour plates, and none of them agree with each other as to the degree (or indeed lack of it) of "greeness" in the grey that in the end I decided to just go with what pleased the eye.
Initially I mixed up a colour I liked using GW blue, grey and green (the exact names escape me). Now I use Cote d'Armes Field Grey, which looks about the same but involves less work (no mixing, except for shades and highlights). Here's a newer one done that way:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Franz%20Ferdinand/04Portrait.jpg)
The trousers on all of them are done with a plain grey (GW Codex Grey and Fortress Grey), without any green or blue in it.
Hi Poly,
Love your style, its very appealing to the eye 8)
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Thanks, Helen.
Aaron, I vaguely knew about the plain grey. But plain grey is just so, well... plain. I think the greenish grey was introduced in 1915, so it is still okay to use on early war spikey-headed Germans (Even though I use mine for 1914). And I have seen depictions of Germans in 1914 in a greenish uniform. They would seem to be wrong, but I don't really mind. It's only toy soldiers and I never was much of a stickler at the best of times.
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The uniforms were not really uniform on neither side in the beginning, were they. In One of my books early Germans are depicted in regimental uniforms, even the field variants. Bavarians seem to differ a bit from Preussians and so on.
Thanks, Helen.
Aaron, I vaguely knew about the plain grey. But plain grey is just so, well... plain. I think the greenish grey was introduced in 1915, so it is still okay to use on early war spikey-headed Germans (Even though I use mine for 1914). And I have seen depictions of Germans in 1914 in a greenish uniform. They would seem to be wrong, but I don't really mind. It's only toy soldiers and I never was much of a stickler at the best of times.
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When i did my time in the Budneswehr around '89/'90 we still had the NATO-olive uniforms. In the 1980ies, it's been rather easy to produce large quantities of uniform cloth in exactly the same colour. But unless a unit got brand new uniforms, the colour shades varied a lot. Sun, washing, dirt - no two of us looked alike.
In '14/'18, this must have been even more the case - new clothing from different manufacturers, the material getting worse over the course of the war and a lot more wear & tear on the uniforms in use than in the peaceful summer of 1989. So I guess you can vary the colours a lot, just don't make them to bright ;)
For my late war germans i use Revell Dust Grey for the trousers and Green Grey for the blouses, both over a coat of a darker shade of grey, e.g. Foundry black shades or Revell Tank grey.
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Plynkes, it sounds like we think a lot alike. I base coated ten last night. Hopefully by monday I'll have a few pictures of beastly bosche in greenish grey tunics!
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Gentlemen,
when addressing the question of sizing, its always referred to the standard infantry model.
I do use renegade and gwm along each other and to my eyes it looks quite fine.
But now im planning to reinforce my Bavarian cavalry (renegade) by some GWMinis.
Renegade horses are huge :o
Dose anybody ever place one renegade Cav.model next to a GWM one?
Thanks in advance,
Josua
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Thanks for reviving this old thread, it partially answers my question about the size of Brigade's WW1 figures that's been unanswered for a few days in my The Short and The Tall (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=24333.0) thread.
I'll be flipping my unpainted Copplestone gigantic Brits for Brigade's tropical Brits, I'm pretty sure.
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sorry for re-reviving the thread, but it seems to be still really usefull!
and what about the French? i want to buy a regiment of 24 troops from the renegade, but i can integrate it with some heavy weapons from maelstrom games (Great War Miniatures)... is it possible? are they too different?
i know that you all already answered to this, but without photos is hard to say--- and the photos on the maelstorm site are pretty small and undetailed!
Thanks,
Jack
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and what about the French? i want to buy a regiment of 24 troops from the renegade, but i can integrate it with some heavy weapons from maelstrom games (Great War Miniatures)... is it possible? are they too different?
i know that you all already answered to this, but without photos is hard to say--- and the photos on the maelstorm site are pretty small and undetailed!
I mix and match the infantry of both, I have not compaired their cavalry. Here are some Renegade and Great War French figures together:
[/img](http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae36/ushistoryprof/005-1.jpg)
the infantry man on the left is renegade, the officer is Great War.
[/img](http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae36/ushistoryprof/005-2.jpg)
The MG crew is Renegade, the men are Great War.
Prof
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