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Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: zemjw on August 16, 2013, 09:59:43 AM
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Just saw in a blog post that the female survivors are out.
Haven't had a good look at the pictures yet, but details here (http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/dark-futures/apocalypse-survivors-women)
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Thanks zemjw.
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Too bad the sale ends the 18th (If I read that correctly) because I just put inan order with Rebel Minis and can't fit both in.
Guess I will wait to read any reviews on LAF between now and payday in two weeks to see if I shoud order male and female survivors.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Just had a closer look at these (my boss isn't looking over my shoulder ;)) and it looks like they may suffer from a lot of the problems of their other sprues. In particular, loads of arms, but limited by the fact that figures won't match with all arms, which reduces the number of possibilities. The bodies are also full bodies, rather than separate legs and torso, again limiting possibilities.
There is a nice compound bow, but it has arms attached (much like their crossbow in the men's set). There's a weapons sprue, but again, not as much variety as I would have liked.
I'll probably end up buying them (okay, I will end up buying them ;D), but seems a missed opportunity (again) :-[
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While the above is all probably true, the set is still cheap enough that even if you only build one frame of the figures (10) they are still pretty affordable and you have plenty of useful parts left over.
Comparing the picture of the woman's weapon sprue against the men's weapon sprue it's nice to see some variation on the weapons with the new RPGs, pistols, smgs shotguns, but there are still way too many assault rifles (9xM16, 11xAK and 4xSA80s) for my liking.
Here's a great idea for WGF, make a a third sprue with improvised and regular melee weapons and then pack all three weapons sprues in the same box. I'd shell out for that.
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Maybe it is just the paint job but the bare arms look very muscular as in Catachan jungle fighter muscular.
Otherwise a nice looking set.
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I wasn't thrilled with the male set, but I'll probably get this one eventually too. They're pretty cheap, even if you don't enjoy them all.
I wonder if the fat lady can work with anything but the RPG. She's a unique sculpt.
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While the above is all probably true, the set is still cheap enough that even if you only build one frame of the figures (10) they are still pretty affordable and you have plenty of useful parts left over.
I'm seriously thinking about doing just that, and using the second set of arms and heads for conversions with other figures. I have some sprues of the em4 Combat Zone gangers rattling around that desperately need replacement arms and heads.
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It doesn´t seem like you can build a female police. Too bad since that would have worked well with the male police. :(
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For what it is worth, I ordered a box of these. I'm willing to sell off or trade one of the body sprues and nay be willing to give up some of the items off the weapons sprue once they arrive. I'll post on the 'for sale' board when they get here.
Jake
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We now sell these on our website for anyone in the UK/Europe.
http://www.grekwoodminiatures.co.uk/Survivors.php
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Sent a mail are they to order or in the store now?
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They are available in store now :)
Just to let people know, the postage on the website is for the UK only. Outside of the UK need to contact us for a postage estimate which is usually not that much more.
I looked over the figures, and they look pretty cool, I look forward to fixing some up for our displays :)
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I just got mine directly from WGF last night. As suspected the arms can be swapped between figures, but in a limited way.
Like the male set there is one set of "intended" arms for each figure on the body sprue and an alternate set of arms on the weapon sprue, so you can at least get 20 different figures. After that you'll have to mix and match with the remaining arms and see what works. On the downside, they removed the numbers from the arms, so it's just letters. That means that for body "A" all four arms are labled with "A" as well but no numbers.
I am still playing around, but it looks like the women and men arms are similar enough that you could swap between sets without them looking too goofy.
Height wise they look to be similar to the men, meaning they are shorter than the zombie vixens. I guess only tall galls turn into zombies. ;)
I hope to have the first set together for a write up next week or so.
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My set was delivered today. I now have an extra sprue of the figs (I'm going to keep 2 of the 3) if someone is interested.
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As much as I try to not like them, this is probably one of the coolest sets to come out this year!
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As much as I try to not like them, this is probably one of the coolest sets to come out this year!
Yep, they really are nice.
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The painted examples on their site seem to have pretty manly faces. Is that a result of the paint work, or the sculpts?
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I got the boys and girls sets at GenCon (18$ each, woot!) and I got a couple free sprues of chickie zombies. The heads are actually pretty good as far as detail. I wouldn't call them "manly" on the chicks...a little rosy flesh on the cheeks and they look more feminine.
My real beef is that they are a little on the small (skinny) side, and I mean boys and girls, compared to most models from most companies. They're not particularly short, or don't appear to be on the frames, but I haven't painted them up or even assembled them yet so only time will tell.
30 models for 18 bucks....really doesn't matter how skinny they are.
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The weapons alone are probably worth the buy. Lots of possibilities.
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The painted examples on their site seem to have pretty manly faces. Is that a result of the paint work, or the sculpts?
Or maybe it reflects the hardening effect of life with zombies?
Okay, just practicing my narrative skills.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Or maybe it reflects the hardening effect of life with zombies?
Or just having to deal with other survival nuts (male and female) running around w/ guns!
Both boxes are on my to-buy list, if for nothing else than the sheer number of customizable options!
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I've fixed up both sets, but only made up about 15 from each box.
The big problem I have is the arms are very limited on what bodies they can work on. Not only sleeves etc, but the angle the bodies are cut. Like the "big gal" with the bazooka, it's tricky giving her different weapons as most of the arms are skinny and the way her shoulders are cut makes it awkward for other weapons without having to do surgical procedures on her.
Saying that though, it's worth it for just 10 unique figures, and possibly a few extra ones with different weapons here and there :)
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Love the set (so many extras) but a bit disappointed with the large woman and wargames factory. To me (sensitive as I am) it's just another way Fat people can still be made the but of jokes with no repercussions, seems like they are the only group its ok to make fun of. For those who have not seen the figures the larger woman has a mid drift shirt to show off her belly and her pants are pulled down it the back showing her ass-crack. Bad showing Wargames factory.
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Love the set (so many extras) but a bit disappointed with the large woman and wargames factory. To me (sensitive as I am) it's just another way Fat people can still be made the but of jokes with no repercussions, seems like they are the only group its ok to make fun of. For those who have not seen the figures the larger woman has a mid drift shirt to show off her belly and her pants are pulled down it the back showing her ass-crack. Bad showing Wargames factory.
Studies show that 25 to 35% of the women living in the US are obese. that's 1 in 4 to 1 in 3. You have a beef about one in ten being large ?
Or is it the clothing that's bothering you ? I'm guessing you'd be okay with it if she was to wear a dress, right?
Maybe you're missing the point where this is a post-apocalyptic zombie setting. Any large woman wearing dresses for comfort is probably one of the first to end up as a Zed meal.
At least WF has depicted this one as an energetic woman, even for her size. Sure, she won't run a marathon, but you don't want to mess with her either and in post-apocalypse she probably couldn't care less her belly and crack are showing.
My 2 cts.
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The large lady in this set is dressed conservatively compared to some of what I see daily. At least around here some folks make zero attempt to dress in a way that is flattering to their body style, and instead choose to dress in a way that could be flattering if they were 30-75 pounds lighter.
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<snip> seems like they are the only group its ok to make fun of. <snip>
Don't want to start an unnecessary fight but this seems somewhat whiny and possibly an agenda issue...
Seriously, the only group? Have you listened to "mainstream" comedians lately? If I argued that every time I heard "humor" about Americans, Chrstians ("evangelical" or not,) males, conservatives, short people, or old people I would never have time to read LAF.
I am sure it happens to blondes, liberals, muslims, and <fill in the blank> too.
How about a little less PC angst, okay?
Gracias,
Glenn
bitchy mode today (fucking stupidity at work today)
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Maybe you're missing the point where this is a post-apocalyptic zombie setting. Any large woman wearing dresses for comfort is probably one of the first to end up as a Zed meal.
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1) I question that.
2) Never argue with a lady of any size with an RPG, machine gun, or even a BAP.
3) My second wife was in excess of 350 pounds (by a large margin) and I have seen her (we worked together) lift up a large confused and combative patient up off the floor, over the raised rails, and into the hospital bed so we could apply restraints. Hauling around all that weight make one fairly strong muscularly.
4) she moved quite quickly in her white uniform dress doing that.
Gracias,
Glenn
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If people see the other arms in the set as too small for the big girl, then perhaps some of the arms from the male set would suit better? Don't have either set but just a thought? Might allow some different poses as well.
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The painted examples on their site seem to have pretty manly faces. Is that a result of the paint work, or the sculpts?
I'll take some of the blame for that, I'm sure I emphasized muscle groups and features more than need be. I didn't paint them with lipstick or eyeshadow either (which in retrospect I could have done on some of them).
In my defense they're certainly not sculpted as feminine as Hasslefree or Statuesque for example.
It's a pretty good set IMO, if not 'perfect'. The 'bigger girl' should have had her shirt covering her ass, there's no reason for that display. It's an easy fix for me but the average person probably doesn't want to bother with greenstuff or melted sprue.
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If people see the other arms in the set as too small for the big girl, then perhaps some of the arms from the male set would suit better? Don't have either set but just a thought? Might allow some different poses as well.
That's not going to work either. Her shoulder joint is much larger than any of the men's arms, with the exception of the hefty figure from the male set. I've dry fit the parts from both figures and it looks like you can swap the male arms with the AK-47 for the female arms with the RPG onto either body.
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There you go, your fat boy now has an RPG! ;)
That's not going to work either. Her shoulder joint is much larger than any of the men's arms, with the exception of the hefty figure from the male set. I've dry fit the parts from both figures and it looks like you can swap the male arms with the AK-47 for the female arms with the RPG onto either body.
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I'm going for this set even though I will probably only need 3 or 4 'player characters' to begin with, I would love to see an equipment set, improvised weapons, ruck sacks and civilian weapons for example, and maybe a police/national guard set.
I can see all those extra weapons forming the basis of a gun shop too!
Plus SA80's are ideal for UK games too.
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I'm going for this set even though I will probably only need 3 or 4 'player characters' to begin with, I would love to see an equipment set, improvised weapons, ruck sacks and civilian weapons for example, and maybe a police/national guard set.
Agreed, an equipment frame coupled with the weapons frame from both sets, in one box would sell like crazy.
I can see all those extra weapons forming the basis of a gun shop too!
Plus SA80's are ideal for UK games too.
Or a military armory. Anyone on in the UK want to swap SA80s for M-16s? ;)
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Got my set from Grekwood Miniatures (very quick service), and they're about what I was expecting.
I do wish they'd do something other than flat head/body connections. They did this with the male survivors as well, and it limits the possibilities to looking left or right. Something that would allow the head to move up and down a bit shouldn't be too much trouble - others have been doing it for years.
Weapons wise, there are no swords (and none in the male survivors set either). This set at least has some standalone pistols, but empty holsters to go along with them would have been even better.
The set definitely has potential, I just wonder how much effort it will take to fully realise that potential.
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I like the weapon shop idea.. hmmm sounds like my next terrain project.
Not to concerned with the lack of swords.. I have loads of extras from my 28mm samurai, knights and other fantasy ventures of mine. Others may not be so lucky though..
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This set at least has some standalone pistols, but empty holsters to go along with them would have been even better.
There is a pistol holster on the body frame and four more on the weapons frame. It was annoying that they came molded with an ammunition pouch but they're there.
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I like the weapon shop idea.. hmmm sounds like my next terrain project.
I have an unprinted file of a weapons store from Worldworks... I may have to get it done and get this set, then...
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I finally got my first set of ten female survivors painted and I've put a review up on my blog. The real short story is that it's a mirror image of the men's set (with all the same pros and cons). Here's a link to the full review:
http://thecolorblindmodelpainter.blogspot.com/2013/09/review-of-wargames-factory-apocalyptic.html (http://thecolorblindmodelpainter.blogspot.com/2013/09/review-of-wargames-factory-apocalyptic.html)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/WGFASF-02_zps91763010.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/WGFASF-03_zps6380199c.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/WGFASF-01_zps4329d947.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/WGFASF-08_zps05f1e92a.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/WGFASF-07_zps9effceaa.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/WGFASW-10_zps8b231bb6.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/WGFASF-06_zps509b983c.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/WGFASF-05_zpsd30254a7.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/WGFASF-04_zpsc0bd17ad.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/WGFASF-09_zpsa9f0a061.jpg)
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I like the baseball bat pose :)
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That large-boned one is losing the war on crack.
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That large-boned one is losing the war on crack.
I love her. I already have 'zombie her' ready to go!
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg134/CptJake_Minis/ZombieWars/P4190011.jpg)
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg134/CptJake_Minis/ZombieWars/P4190013.jpg)
;D
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Ah, My Eyes!!! o_o
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Nice subtle painting. Personally, I would accentuate the eyes a bit more, but overall very nice. :)
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those survivors are lovely- great painting. it just goes to show that with skill and patients it is possible to make these look models look fantastic.
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Nice subtle painting. Personally, I would accentuate the eyes a bit more, but overall very nice. :)
Thanks! I do "tabletop quality" paint jobs. I can do eyes, but life is too short.
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I get that plastics production is complex, and doing all the figures on one sprue is the simplest way, but... these boxes would be ideal IMO if there was one sprue with one each of the oddballs, (such as overweight guy and gal, cricket bat, tennis racket) and then multiples of a sprue with the more generic bodies.
As others have mentioned, they are still good value even if you don't use all the bodies, but I can't see myself ever putting together and painting more than one big woman with an RPG and her asscrack showing.
Ah well, it is what it is. Still on my "to buy" list.
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CptJake's zombiefication does make me wonder if it will be possible to mix these bodies with heads and arms from the zombie vixen sprues, creating "infected" versions of the figures.
Worth an experiment...
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CptJake's zombiefication does make me wonder if it will be possible to mix these bodies with heads and arms from the zombie vixen sprues, creating "infected" versions of the figures.
Worth an experiment...
You certainly can. I've done a couple mixing female survivor heads and arms with Vixen bodies to create a couple of survivors. I haven't built any going back the other way with the females, but I did do some with the males. They also fit with swaps on the Studio miniatures zombies as well. I've got some more pictures and descriptions at my blog:
http://thecolorblindmodelpainter.blogspot.com/2013/09/plastic-figure-mash-ups.html
(http://thecolorblindmodelpainter.blogspot.com/2013/09/plastic-figure-mash-ups.html)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/MashUpSurvivorWIP02_zps8896a4c8.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rwwingate/MashUpSurvivorWIP03_zpsc10c2302.jpg)
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I also created a woman survivor using men survivors accessories and zombie vixen body :
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P6100280_zps25baf2f4.jpg)
So I bet it's possible to mix WF zombie vixen and female survivors bits too.
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That's interesting, the Zombie Vixen bodies give some pretty dynamic poses when you put them together with the Survivor parts.